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d10 front focuses PROOF!!

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great picture would you be willing to even trade my one week old 10d
for yours ill pay shipping
 
Jack A. Zucker said:
Over and over you attempt to justify your purchase (not by showing
your brilliant pictures, I might add) by putting down and
attempting to discredit others who have problems with your camera
and then you accuse others of herd mentality.

Unbelievable.

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I have shown my images and maybe they're not "brilliant" they ARE well focused and that's what pi$$es some, like you, people off. They got a bad camera and I didn't.
 
no matter what are the words. We don't have to pick here.
Dan in Texas said:
I'm sorry you are having issues with your 10D. If you are willing
to consider them, I'd like to suggest a few things.

The subject line of your post and your tone are such as to invite
people to be harsh in their responses.

First, you state, or rather exclaim, "The D10 front focuses
PROOF!!". Having only tested your camera, you can't really make
this claim. You can say, "I think my 10D has front focuses issues
(w/Examples)".

Second, you say, "...try this test on your camera you may be
surprised!" This suggests to the reader that they don't know how
to use their camera, that it front focuses and that they are too
dense to realize it.

In my case, I've been very happy with the focusing of my 10D.
After reading an number of focusing threads here, I broke down and
did some tests. Even in low light with a 1.4 aperature, I couldn't
get my 10D to front focus. I can post examples if that will help
you. Does that mean yours doesn't? Of course not.

From following the threads here, I would say there are a handful of
people that have some sort of focusing issue with their 10D's. I'm
guessing some of them really have problems, others aren't testing
focusing properly. The majority of 10D owners aren't having
problems though. Remember, research shows a person is 17 times
more likely to give negative feedback than to bother to give
positive feedback.

Best of luck getting your problems straightened out.

-Dan
bill jones said:
as previously posted i have been having trouble
acheiving razor sharp prints.
at first i thought it was my 24-70L lens
but its not check this out
i put a 50mm 1.8 lens on
photographed his ruler outside in bright sun light
set the camera in apeture priority mode and opened up the lens to 1.8
i then filled the center focus bracket with the 20 mark i then
tried the same with the 10 mark checout how the lens focuses in
front!
very disapointed cannot return this camera will have to sent it in
Quality control?
the first image i am focusing on the 20 the second image i am
focusing on the 10
anyone else have this problem if i was u i would try this test on
your camera you may be surprised!
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498771
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498988
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...I'm too busy taking pictures of my cat.

Doug
bill jones said:
don't believe me try the test yourself
go outside open up your lens and photograph a ruler placed
diagnoly(sorry i am bad speller)
set your focus to use only the center bracket pick a
number(measurement to focus on and
publish your results!
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So that we don't have to generalize good points to all, either.
Hugo So said:
Dan in Texas said:
I'm sorry you are having issues with your 10D. If you are willing
to consider them, I'd like to suggest a few things.

The subject line of your post and your tone are such as to invite
people to be harsh in their responses.

First, you state, or rather exclaim, "The D10 front focuses
PROOF!!". Having only tested your camera, you can't really make
this claim. You can say, "I think my 10D has front focuses issues
(w/Examples)".

Second, you say, "...try this test on your camera you may be
surprised!" This suggests to the reader that they don't know how
to use their camera, that it front focuses and that they are too
dense to realize it.

In my case, I've been very happy with the focusing of my 10D.
After reading an number of focusing threads here, I broke down and
did some tests. Even in low light with a 1.4 aperature, I couldn't
get my 10D to front focus. I can post examples if that will help
you. Does that mean yours doesn't? Of course not.

From following the threads here, I would say there are a handful of
people that have some sort of focusing issue with their 10D's. I'm
guessing some of them really have problems, others aren't testing
focusing properly. The majority of 10D owners aren't having
problems though. Remember, research shows a person is 17 times
more likely to give negative feedback than to bother to give
positive feedback.

Best of luck getting your problems straightened out.

-Dan
bill jones said:
as previously posted i have been having trouble
acheiving razor sharp prints.
at first i thought it was my 24-70L lens
but its not check this out
i put a 50mm 1.8 lens on
photographed his ruler outside in bright sun light
set the camera in apeture priority mode and opened up the lens to 1.8
i then filled the center focus bracket with the 20 mark i then
tried the same with the 10 mark checout how the lens focuses in
front!
very disapointed cannot return this camera will have to sent it in
Quality control?
the first image i am focusing on the 20 the second image i am
focusing on the 10
anyone else have this problem if i was u i would try this test on
your camera you may be surprised!
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498771
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498988
Click to expand...
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My dirty uploads: http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=43271

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My dirty uploads: http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=43271

 
I interpreted his post as: Wow, my 10D really DOES front-focus. If you don't believe these other people (like I didn't), you should definitely test it just to be sure. It's better to find out NOW than after the warranty expires.
Dan in Texas said:
I didn't say you shouldn't post problems here. My point was that
if you post with subjects such as "I have a problem with my 10D,
can people help?" you will get much better feedback than if you
post "All 10D's suck. Yours does to. Here's proof."
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http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
PearlRider said:
I have shown my images and maybe they're not "brilliant" they ARE
well focused and that's what pi$$es some, like you, people off.
They got a bad camera and I didn't.
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I don't remember seeing your pix but I'll take your word from it. Frankly I am jealous that you got a good camera and I didn't but it's still not a valid reason to belittle others who have problems.

FACT: The 10D is a great camera
FACT: There are some defective 10D cameras out there.

What's wrong with discussing both of these issues? Why do folks who have good cameras immediately jump on folks who have problems?

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http://www.jackzucker.com
 
Lew said:
Bill, you sound like a reasonable fellow. It makes sense asking
for assistance, as there is a lot of help to be had here.

But there is a big difference in how your post will be received
when you post with an adversarial "10D front focuses PROOF!"
subject line. It comes off COMPLETELY different from something
like "I think my camera front focuses, help?"

Do you see the distinction?

-- Lew
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i do i guess i need to be more careful
i didn't realize how emotional people can become
regarding the possibility that a camera may have a problem
its interesting how emotional the users of this forum become
i thought the purpose of this forum was to exchange information about the camera

" my 10D front focuses here is the proof" is a simple observation statement regarding
the camera in other words i am describing the characteristics of one 10d camera
i apoligize for my insensitivity towards the sensitive
 
Hank said:
SHould I be b!tching and complaining? It looks like it back
focused bad.
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No, not quite yet. There are a lot of reasons this could have happened.
The focusing system on the 10D isn't like the one on a Canon G3.

First use the search tool to look all the previous threads on this subject,
then if you are still sure it's the camera, send it to the service center.

Complaining about it here really won't change much.
 
After seeing all this commotion about the 10D front focusing and back focusing because SOME people got a defective camera, I decided to put the "issue" to rest. The 10D does NOT front focus OR back focus because MINE doesn't. Here's the proof...



The card was lined up even with the 20 inch mark and shot at ISO 800 at 1/250 using a Canon 24-85 at 85mm and f/4.5 (it's widest aperture at that focal length). This is a cropped image.

NOW, if you want to say YOUR 10D doesn't focus properly, that'd be true. If you say THE 10D doesn't focus properly, that'd be untrue.
 
Jack A. Zucker said:
That's a valid point if it's true but then it should be addressed
for what it is rather than telling someone they shouldn't post
about their problems here.I'm not accusing you of doing that but
that's what Pearldrops is doing...

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JAck, you've been rather nasty from the gitgo but that's you, I guess. What I'm trying to say is that I don't see the point in all these blanket condemnation messages just because someone like YOU got a defective unit. Deal with it.
 
Jack A. Zucker said:
I don't remember seeing your pix but I'll take your word from it.
Frankly I am jealous that you got a good camera and I didn't but
it's still not a valid reason to belittle others who have problems.

FACT: The 10D is a great camera
FACT: There are some defective 10D cameras out there.

What's wrong with discussing both of these issues? Why do folks who
have good cameras immediately jump on folks who have problems?

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http://www.jackzucker.com
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Of course, you don't remember them because you're too busy slamming me. What bothers me about the discussion is the way it's brought about. It's not a plea for HELP... it's someone crying and bitching and making blanket condemnations. Just accept the fact that the camera you got is bad and deal with it. I don't doubt that there are some and have REPEATEDLY stated this but what can WE do about it here?
 
I'm sorry, this was kind of a joke. I meant to add a few more sentances. That was one of my first digital photos ever, from a G1. When I took it I thought there was a focusing problem just because the foremost element of the picture wasn't in focus. I later learned how the focusing system works.

Hank
tim martin said:
Hank said:
SHould I be b!tching and complaining? It looks like it back
focused bad.
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No, not quite yet. There are a lot of reasons this could have
happened.
The focusing system on the 10D isn't like the one on a Canon G3.

First use the search tool to look all the previous threads on this
subject,
then if you are still sure it's the camera, send it to the service
center.

Complaining about it here really won't change much.
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There's only two things you really need to fix anything, Duct Tape and WD-40. If it's supposed to move and it doesn't, use WD-40. If it moves and it's not supposed to, use Duct Tape.
 
bill jones said:
i do i guess i need to be more careful
i didn't realize how emotional people can become
regarding the possibility that a camera may have a problem
its interesting how emotional the users of this forum become
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I think it is more a matter of frustration coming to the surface. But no doubt there are some hypersensitive folks out there.
bill jones said:
i thought the purpose of this forum was to exchange information
about the camera
" my 10D front focuses here is the proof" is a simple observation
statement regarding
the camera in other words i am describing the characteristics of
one 10d camera
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You are correct, and I think this thread would have been significantly shorter had you actually included the "my" at the beginning of the original post. Omitting that word completely changed the tone of your post, and as such it completely changed the reception your comments received.
bill jones said:
i apoligize for my insensitivity towards the sensitive
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Now that folks are trying to be constructive is not the time to start sniping, is it?

--
Any DSLR beats unexposed film.
 
DavidP said:
I interpreted his post as: Wow, my 10D really DOES front-focus.
If you don't believe these other people (like I didn't), you should
definitely test it just to be sure. It's better to find out NOW
than after the warranty expires.
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Yes, that's all true, but as far as your telephone conversation with
the Canon service technician this morning, I think a lot of us truly
couldn't care less anymore.

You have far exceeded your allotted quota of whining.
 
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