d10 front focuses PROOF!!

[bill jones]

as previously posted i have been having trouble
acheiving razor sharp prints.
at first i thought it was my 24-70L lens
but its not check this out
i put a 50mm 1.8 lens on
photographed his ruler outside in bright sun light
set the camera in apeture priority mode and opened up the lens to 1.8

i then filled the center focus bracket with the 20 mark i then tried the same with the 10 mark checout how the lens focuses in front!
very disapointed cannot return this camera will have to sent it in
Quality control?
the first image i am focusing on the 20 the second image i am focusing on the 10

anyone else have this problem if i was u i would try this test on your camera you may be surprised!
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498771
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498988

 

[mini-me]

as previously posted i have been having trouble
acheiving razor sharp prints.
at first i thought it was my 24-70L lens
but its not check this out
i put a 50mm 1.8 lens on
photographed his ruler outside in bright sun light
set the camera in apeture priority mode and opened up the lens to 1.8
i then filled the center focus bracket with the 20 mark i then
tried the same with the 10 mark checout how the lens focuses in
front!
very disapointed cannot return this camera will have to sent it in
Quality control?
the first image i am focusing on the 20 the second image i am
focusing on the 10
anyone else have this problem if i was u i would try this test on
your camera you may be surprised!
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498771
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498988

 

[DavidP #28649]

The 10 and 20 that you said you focused on are NOT in the center of the image. So how did you focus on them with the center focus point?

as previously posted i have been having trouble
acheiving razor sharp prints.
at first i thought it was my 24-70L lens
but its not check this out
i put a 50mm 1.8 lens on
photographed his ruler outside in bright sun light
set the camera in apeture priority mode and opened up the lens to 1.8
i then filled the center focus bracket with the 20 mark i then
tried the same with the 10 mark checout how the lens focuses in
front!
very disapointed cannot return this camera will have to sent it in
Quality control?
the first image i am focusing on the 20 the second image i am
focusing on the 10
anyone else have this problem if i was u i would try this test on
your camera you may be surprised!
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498771
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498988

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

 

[The Raven]

as previously posted i have been having trouble
acheiving razor sharp prints.
at first i thought it was my 24-70L lens
but its not check this out
i put a 50mm 1.8 lens on
photographed his ruler outside in bright sun light
set the camera in apeture priority mode and opened up the lens to 1.8
i then filled the center focus bracket with the 20 mark i then
tried the same with the 10 mark checout how the lens focuses in
front!
very disapointed cannot return this camera will have to sent it in
Quality control?
the first image i am focusing on the 20 the second image i am
focusing on the 10
anyone else have this problem if i was u i would try this test on
your camera you may be surprised!
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498771
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498988

 

[bill jones]

The 10 and 20 that you said you focused on are NOT in the center of
the image. So how did you focus on them with the center focus
point?

they are cropped so they can fit in the free photo gallery!!
the numbers were in the center!!!

 

[bill jones]

that's a constructive response
as i said before i focused by placing the camera in apeture priority
configured the camera to only use th ecenter focus bracket
i then place the numbers in the center bracket and focused

the images posted are crop's of the 100% image with no post processing other than the crop

 

[Hugo So]

I just lost a beer to a friend. I bet you shall be in the thread in 5 minutes. But you did it in SIX!!!

What a shame to you. No wonder you get disqualified.

as previously posted i have been having trouble
acheiving razor sharp prints.
at first i thought it was my 24-70L lens
but its not check this out
i put a 50mm 1.8 lens on
photographed his ruler outside in bright sun light
set the camera in apeture priority mode and opened up the lens to 1.8
i then filled the center focus bracket with the 20 mark i then
tried the same with the 10 mark checout how the lens focuses in
front!
very disapointed cannot return this camera will have to sent it in
Quality control?
the first image i am focusing on the 20 the second image i am
focusing on the 10
anyone else have this problem if i was u i would try this test on
your camera you may be surprised!
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498771
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498988

--
My dirty uploads: http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=43271

 

[keiron o'mahoney]

. . doesn't feel me with much confidence in your testing ability to be honest.

However, return it and the lens to canon and see what they say has got to be your only answer, not much we can do about it.

 

[bill jones]

. . doesn't feel me with much confidence in your testing ability to
be honest.

However, return it and the lens to canon and see what they say has
got to be your only answer, not much we can do about it.

sorry i typed this in hurry if it make you feel better 10D
sorry for the typo
if it makes you feel better i haved owned my own photography buisness
have been doing photography for 20 years have owned many medium format and
35mm slr never had focusing problems like this before
10d 10d 10d is that better

 

[bill jones]

don't believe me try the test yourself

go outside open up your lens and photograph a ruler placed diagnoly(sorry i am bad speller)

set your focus to use only the center bracket pick a number(measurement to focus on and
publish your results!

 

[Mike Morbach]

Bill, I sympathize with you and all of the other disappointed 10D owners. But...and it is a big but I believe most 10D owners are extremely happy with their new cameras and we are tired of hearing about this focus and that focus. This color and that color. Canon builds a great product line and there is no conspiracy or cover up. If you make enough of any product some of them are bound to be defective. I am not doubting that some of the 10D's have issues with them I guess my question to you and Hugo and whom ever else is what do you want us to do about it.

as previously posted i have been having trouble
acheiving razor sharp prints.
at first i thought it was my 24-70L lens
but its not check this out
i put a 50mm 1.8 lens on
photographed his ruler outside in bright sun light
set the camera in apeture priority mode and opened up the lens to 1.8
i then filled the center focus bracket with the 20 mark i then
tried the same with the 10 mark checout how the lens focuses in
front!
very disapointed cannot return this camera will have to sent it in
Quality control?
the first image i am focusing on the 20 the second image i am
focusing on the 10
anyone else have this problem if i was u i would try this test on
your camera you may be surprised!
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498771
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498988

--
Mike Morbach
I'm still learning
http://www.pbase.com/spike777

 

[ltrinh]

Bill,

Just curious, did you try to reset (or clear) all the settings before taking these pictures? Many posts say that clearing all the settings will eliminate the problems.

Larry

as previously posted i have been having trouble
acheiving razor sharp prints.
at first i thought it was my 24-70L lens
but its not check this out
i put a 50mm 1.8 lens on
photographed his ruler outside in bright sun light
set the camera in apeture priority mode and opened up the lens to 1.8
i then filled the center focus bracket with the 20 mark i then
tried the same with the 10 mark checout how the lens focuses in
front!
very disapointed cannot return this camera will have to sent it in
Quality control?
the first image i am focusing on the 20 the second image i am
focusing on the 10
anyone else have this problem if i was u i would try this test on
your camera you may be surprised!
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498771
http://www.pbase.com/image/15498988

 

[The Raven]

"Club" member?

 

[DavidP #28649]

Aha. In that case, you may very well have a problem.

One thing to consider, though -- there are lots of little marks for the camera to try to AF on. I'm assuming that where the focus plane actually is, that area wasn't under the AF sensor at all?

If you go into Canon's software (was this shot RAW?), you can show where the AF sensors were located superimposed on the image.

Can you show a shot of that?

Every once in a while, these cameras have mis-adjusted AF that will cause this, even in broad daylight (at least you tested in daylight).

If so, Canon can fix it.

they are cropped so they can fit in the free photo gallery!!
the numbers were in the center!!!

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

 

[bill jones]

the problem is not my 24-70L
?why have i posted these issues?
before buying my 10D i checked out this forum and from time to time

would read post similar to mine. However like many of you i was arrogant thinking many of these people were probably not experienced slr shooters and did not understand

the importance of DOF or camera shake or contrast which may affect where the camera decides to focus. So i went ahead and bought the camera figuring the people complaining either had a rare lemon or were not experienced SLR photographers.

well i started shooting with the 10D and had focus problems in my pictures such as taking a portrait and noticing out of focus problems. so i thought maybe my technique was bad or the lens was bad so i eliminated these problems by trying different lenses and setting up focus tests and indeed there is an underlying focus problem with MY 10D

i have discussed this with canon today and they want my camera to be sent to the service center ps the rep seemed familiar with this problem and did not want me to send in my lens all they need is the camera to me this seems they are aware of some problem

we will see i will repeat the same test after my camera is repaired. Now i have learned a lesson to pay closer attention to people's complaints in this forum because they may be justified.

 

[bill jones]

yes i tried the reset and to answer another persons post of why
place these problems in this forum the reason is simple
seems many people are having the same problem this is not an isolated incident

and by discussing it here i hope to learn from other people who have had the same problem and see how they resolved the issue!

it would be intresting for others to try the simple test and see how common this problem really is!!

 

[The Raven]

Bill, I sympathize with you and all of the other disappointed 10D
owners. But...and it is a big but I believe most 10D owners are
extremely happy with their new cameras and we are tired of hearing
about this focus and that focus. This color and that color. Canon
builds a great product line and there is no conspiracy or cover up.
If you make enough of any product some of them are bound to be
defective. I am not doubting that some of the 10D's have issues
with them I guess my question to you and Hugo and whom ever else is
what do you want us to do about it.

I don't see the point in this endless testing and bitching. If it's not doing what YOU feel it should, either get your money back or send it to Canon for repair. There's nothing that anyone on THIS forum can do to solve the problem that YOU are CONVINCED you have. I'm sorry but them's the facts. MANY others are not experiencing this problem so the possibility of you returning the camera and getting one that doesn't exhibit this "issue" is good. Those are your options just as they are with anything else you buy. I guess I'm just plain extremely lucky because I got two of them and they both work fine.

 

[bill jones]

Aha. In that case, you may very well have a problem.

One thing to consider, though -- there are lots of little marks for
the camera to try to AF on. I'm assuming that where the focus
plane actually is, that area wasn't under the AF sensor at all?

If you go into Canon's software (was this shot RAW?), you can show
where the AF sensors were located superimposed on the image.

Can you show a shot of that?

i shot this in jpg but i will try to shoot it in raw

how do you superimpose the sensor?

 

[Michael Goldshteyn]

If you definitely think you performed a valid test and the numbers were in the central focus square with the camera mounted on a tripod, you have a front focusing problem. Send the camera in and have Canon tune it. You might also consider posting a test which shows an auto-focus vs. manual focus comparison.

 

[The Raven]

First of all, I don't think people here are "arrogant" thinking it's always the user's fault. It seems that most of the people would like to see all bases covered before declaring the problem and then when it IS verified, just get the thing fixed or return it. To keep on with the "testing" shots is ludicrous. Unless I see a real problem in my shots, I don't see the need in all this "testing". It seems when someone gets a bad camera, they ALWAYS want to make a big deal of it and want to see if others are having the same problem. With some people, the power of suggestion is really strong and they will do their best to "find" a problem and sometimes that IS the problem.