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Jack A. Zucker
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Heaven forbid you should discuss it in a Canon SLR forum.
Everyone knows this forum is only for disclosing your equipment collection...
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d10 front focuses PROOF!!
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Everyone knows this forum is only for disclosing your equipment collection...
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Good deal on the BDay present. You'll enjoy it. Be sure to turn off Adobe Gamma first if you have that. Also if you use BreezeBrowser there's a preferences section where you can direct BB to use your monitor profile from Optical when displaying stuff.
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Please reread that post. PearlRider's post was actually a helpful suggestion to make sure bill's test was accurate. It is VERY easy to rock forward or back by a few millimeters when taking a picture without realizing it -- and when your depth of field is only a few millimeters, it can make a big difference. Therefore, PearlRider (in this post) politely pointed that out and inquired if that might have been a possibility.
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Dan in Texas
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Bill,
I'm sorry you are having issues with your 10D. If you are willing to consider them, I'd like to suggest a few things.
The subject line of your post and your tone are such as to invite people to be harsh in their responses.
First, you state, or rather exclaim, "The D10 front focuses PROOF!!". Having only tested your camera, you can't really make this claim. You can say, "I think my 10D has front focuses issues (w/Examples)".
Second, you say, "...try this test on your camera you may be surprised!" This suggests to the reader that they don't know how to use their camera, that it front focuses and that they are too dense to realize it.
In my case, I've been very happy with the focusing of my 10D. After reading an number of focusing threads here, I broke down and did some tests. Even in low light with a 1.4 aperature, I couldn't get my 10D to front focus. I can post examples if that will help you. Does that mean yours doesn't? Of course not.
From following the threads here, I would say there are a handful of people that have some sort of focusing issue with their 10D's. I'm guessing some of them really have problems, others aren't testing focusing properly. The majority of 10D owners aren't having problems though. Remember, research shows a person is 17 times more likely to give negative feedback than to bother to give positive feedback.
Best of luck getting your problems straightened out.
-Dan
I'm sorry you are having issues with your 10D. If you are willing to consider them, I'd like to suggest a few things.
The subject line of your post and your tone are such as to invite people to be harsh in their responses.
First, you state, or rather exclaim, "The D10 front focuses PROOF!!". Having only tested your camera, you can't really make this claim. You can say, "I think my 10D has front focuses issues (w/Examples)".
Second, you say, "...try this test on your camera you may be surprised!" This suggests to the reader that they don't know how to use their camera, that it front focuses and that they are too dense to realize it.
In my case, I've been very happy with the focusing of my 10D. After reading an number of focusing threads here, I broke down and did some tests. Even in low light with a 1.4 aperature, I couldn't get my 10D to front focus. I can post examples if that will help you. Does that mean yours doesn't? Of course not.
From following the threads here, I would say there are a handful of people that have some sort of focusing issue with their 10D's. I'm guessing some of them really have problems, others aren't testing focusing properly. The majority of 10D owners aren't having problems though. Remember, research shows a person is 17 times more likely to give negative feedback than to bother to give positive feedback.
Best of luck getting your problems straightened out.
-Dan
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bill jones
Leading Member
hand held but very rapid xposure
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Jack A. Zucker
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Over and over you attempt to justify your purchase (not by showing your brilliant pictures, I might add) by putting down and attempting to discredit others who have problems with your camera and then you accuse others of herd mentality.
Unbelievable.
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tim martin
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But the value of this thread is equal to somebody saying they have
decided to get a 10D, but are now trying to figure out which zoom
lens they should get.
Use the search tool to search for "10D front back focusing", or just
click on Hugo So's ID to see all the threads he has participated in.
Either way, you'll get the same results.
bill jones
Leading Member
my first problem with my first DIGITAL slr was a constant dark
spot on my photo's i posted my problem here with a picture
people responded very quickly that it was dust not to worry and use
a blower to fix. well that didn't work so i reposted someone sugested
using a special sensor cleaning swap: problem solved ok lets say i didn't post here
i would have sent my camera back to canon for nothing. This forum is very useful in posting your canon issues to see if other people are having the same problem and if there are fixes. I am not the type to perform tests on my camera for the heck of it
i decided to test my camera because i noticed the problem in routine shooting which i have never had on my previous film slr cameras
as for the people who crticize rather than provide help they have an obvious front and back focus problem in their cerebrum
as for those of you who have shared your knowledge and provided help
thankyou
spot on my photo's i posted my problem here with a picture
people responded very quickly that it was dust not to worry and use
a blower to fix. well that didn't work so i reposted someone sugested
using a special sensor cleaning swap: problem solved ok lets say i didn't post here
i would have sent my camera back to canon for nothing. This forum is very useful in posting your canon issues to see if other people are having the same problem and if there are fixes. I am not the type to perform tests on my camera for the heck of it
i decided to test my camera because i noticed the problem in routine shooting which i have never had on my previous film slr cameras
as for the people who crticize rather than provide help they have an obvious front and back focus problem in their cerebrum
as for those of you who have shared your knowledge and provided help
thankyou
Simon-Ph
Senior Member
Bill, I am not here to argue or flame you, but just want to be useful.
If you have time, I recommend you use a tripod to test again. At wide open aperture and extreme close distance to the object, the DOF is almost nothing -- a slight shake or forward/backward movement will shift the focus point. When I 1st got my 10D, I was in a hurry and tested handheld which resulted in front focus. I tested it again with a tripod and it was perfect. After testing with a tripod, in good light, and if your camera/lens still mis-focus, test with another lens. Draw your conclusion and send in your equipments if needed.
Simon-Ph
If you have time, I recommend you use a tripod to test again. At wide open aperture and extreme close distance to the object, the DOF is almost nothing -- a slight shake or forward/backward movement will shift the focus point. When I 1st got my 10D, I was in a hurry and tested handheld which resulted in front focus. I tested it again with a tripod and it was perfect. After testing with a tripod, in good light, and if your camera/lens still mis-focus, test with another lens. Draw your conclusion and send in your equipments if needed.
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Mike Morbach
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rerun the test with a tripod. Then if the problem is there send it in for repair. Read this message if you haven't already. Best of luck.
Mike
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m5laser
Leading Member
I forgot to mention that I took the shot at f/2.8 with a sigma 70-200.
Is this focusing 'normal'?
Duncan
Is this focusing 'normal'?
Duncan
Mike Morbach
Senior Member
Set up a ruler, yard stick etc at a 45 degree angle to your camera. Focus on a number wide open. Check your results. Do this more than once, using atripod. If you are not happy with the results send it in for repair.
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--I forgot to mention that I took the shot at f/2.8 with a sigma 70-200.
Is this focusing 'normal'?
Duncan
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Jack A. Zucker
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That's a valid point if it's true but then it should be addressed for what it is rather than telling someone they shouldn't post about their problems here.I'm not accusing you of doing that but that's what Pearldrops is doing...
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Hank53935
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SHould I be b!tching and complaining? It looks like it back focused bad.
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There's only two things you really need to fix anything, Duct Tape and WD-40. If it's supposed to move and it doesn't, use WD-40. If it moves and it's not supposed to, use Duct Tape.
Bill, you sound like a reasonable fellow. It makes sense asking for assistance, as there is a lot of help to be had here.
But there is a big difference in how your post will be received when you post with an adversarial "10D front focuses PROOF!" subject line. It comes off COMPLETELY different from something like "I think my camera front focuses, help?"
Do you see the distinction?
-- Lew
Any DSLR beats unexposed film.
But there is a big difference in how your post will be received when you post with an adversarial "10D front focuses PROOF!" subject line. It comes off COMPLETELY different from something like "I think my camera front focuses, help?"
Do you see the distinction?
-- Lew
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John Mankos
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That's why I don't particularly like the ruler tests....I much prefer to get some distance between the subjects so you KNOW what 'SHOULD' be in focus. With rulers there's too many marks for the camera to grab
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Linda85738
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Bill,
The rapid exposure won't help. It's the possible drift forward or back of the hands or body before the shutter releases that's the possible culprit. To be absolutely sure, try it on a tripod.
I know when I try to hand hold shots with very shallow depth of field it can be tough to stay very still between focus lock and shutter release. And the harder you try to stay still the harder it is.
Dan in Texas
Forum Enthusiast
Bill,
I didn't say you shouldn't post problems here. My point was that if you post with subjects such as "I have a problem with my 10D, can people help?" you will get much better feedback than if you post "All 10D's suck. Yours does to. Here's proof."
As I said, this is just a suggestion, one you clearly don't want to follow. That's OK, but just don't be surprised if people responding are harsh rather than helpful.
-Dan
I didn't say you shouldn't post problems here. My point was that if you post with subjects such as "I have a problem with my 10D, can people help?" you will get much better feedback than if you post "All 10D's suck. Yours does to. Here's proof."
As I said, this is just a suggestion, one you clearly don't want to follow. That's OK, but just don't be surprised if people responding are harsh rather than helpful.
-Dan
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