Anyone else going to wait for 5D Mark V

[MitchAlsup]

Petalpixel has announced there won't be a successor. Sad but expected. I wonder how low the price on the IV will go? That might be a smart move.

Petapixel doesn't make the 5D and so doesn't get to announce things.

They've reported a rumor that it's dead. It's not even their rumor. It's from Canon Rumors. This is a site, reporting on another site, reporting on what someone who has been termed 'a reliable source' has told them.

Just wait until conspiracy theorists discover that they're part of a conspiracy to use conspiracy theorists to spread disinformation via conspiracy theories !

The circular argument has reached its logical conclusion.

 

[h00ligan]

A healthy attitude - as long as they don’t EOL repairs too fast. Might be worth looking around later for a very low shutter count second body.



I plan on either leaving canon or using old dslr bodies. The way things are now I don’t have any desire to move to canon mirrorless for a multitude of reasons.

 

[Tannin]

What do you mean with "backwards like the current EVF"?

Every person in this forum knows exactly what that means. Pretending to be obtuse is not nice. Nor is it helpful.

 

[janez]

What do you mean with "backwards like the current EVF"?

Every person in this forum knows exactly what that means. Pretending to be obtuse is not nice. Nor is it helpful.

I have 7D2 and Zacutto viewfinder which mounts on the camera screen. Compared to EVS on this new cameras it is probably bad, but I still use it often because it enables me to focus really precise. I can do 5x or 10x magnification. I can also record video much better because I can press the camera to my head and get more stable position for the camera when recording. It also enables me to record video in bright sun. I see that as big improvement over OVF in those cases. When result matters most than EVF wins over OVF in my opinion.

 

[gavin]

No. Will see if I like the R5.

 

[DotCom Editor]

Petalpixel has announced there won't be a successor. Sad but expected. I wonder how low the price on the IV will go? That might be a smart move.

Only Canon can announce the fate or launch of Canon products. Petapixel can't announce anything; it can only report or serve up conjecture.

 

[Mark B.]

Petalpixel has announced there won't be a successor. Sad but expected. I wonder how low the price on the IV will go? That might be a smart move.

Only Canon can announce the fate or launch of Canon products. Petapixel can't announce anything; it can only report or serve up conjecture.

Semantics. You know tko meant they posted an article. Anyway, Canon Rumors CR2 are usually right.

 

[SQLGuy]

Historically, Canon makes clean breaks, and Nikon offers more legacy compatibility. Look at F mount vs EF. They've been supporting the same basic mount since the 1950s. Nikon still offers new film cameras and still makes manual focus lenses like the Ai-S 28/2.8.

When I heard about the R5, my first thought was that Canon was going all in on mirrorless, in a way that looks a lot like how they switched from FD to EF when EOS was introduced. Except, in this case they at least made the R series backwards compatible with EF lenses. Forcing everyone to abandon their FD lenses must have lost them a bunch of customers, but they made enough money selling the new EF lenses, and they had some pretty great cameras to help win new ones and even keep some of the angry ones.

Early on in this thread, somebody said something about when EF came out, well, you can always turn off AF. Yes, but no. If you're ever shot with something like a new F-1 or a T90, and then tried MF on an EOS body, you know that that's a real step backwards. No split prism. Crappy little MF rings. Lousy (well, really, no) damping. For most people, switching to mirrorless, after the discomfort of learning some new habits, will not be nearly as disruptive as switching from a T-90 to an EOS 1.

Anyway, if you want the 20 FPS, you're not going to get that with a mirror. Nor are you going to get Eye AF, or AF tracking across the frame. Does everyone need these features? No. But the competition is selling a fair amount of cameras because of them.

I rather doubt we'll see a 5DV, but that's just my guess based on how Canon has made their paradigm shifts in the past. I think that, if you really want to stick with DSLRs for a lot longer, you might look at Nikon, or, if you're adventurous, Pentax.

 

[Jozef M]

Historically, Canon makes clean breaks, and Nikon offers more legacy compatibility. Look at F mount vs EF. They've been supporting the same basic mount since the 1950s. Nikon still offers new film cameras and still makes manual focus lenses like the Ai-S 28/2.8.

When I heard about the R5, my first thought was that Canon was going all in on mirrorless, in a way that looks a lot like how they switched from FD to EF when EOS was introduced. Except, in this case they at least made the R series backwards compatible with EF lenses. Forcing everyone to abandon their FD lenses must have lost them a bunch of customers, but they made enough money selling the new EF lenses, and they had some pretty great cameras to help win new ones and even keep some of the angry ones.

Early on in this thread, somebody said something about when EF came out, well, you can always turn off AF. Yes, but no. If you're ever shot with something like a new F-1 or a T90, and then tried MF on an EOS body, you know that that's a real step backwards. No split prism. Crappy little MF rings. Lousy (well, really, no) damping. For most people, switching to mirrorless, after the discomfort of learning some new habits, will not be nearly as disruptive as switching from a T-90 to an EOS 1.

Anyway, if you want the 20 FPS, you're not going to get that with a mirror. Nor are you going to get Eye AF, or AF tracking across the frame. Does everyone need these features? No. But the competition is selling a fair amount of cameras because of them.

I rather doubt we'll see a 5DV, but that's just my guess based on how Canon has made their paradigm shifts in the past. I think that, if you really want to stick with DSLRs for a lot longer, you might look at Nikon, or, if you're adventurous, Pentax.

I agree.

But your conclusion to switch to Nikon and having a collection of good EF lenses is out of the question. Pentax is no option at all because of the very bad autofocus ...

Jozef.

 

[TheBlackGrouse]

Historically, Canon makes clean breaks, and Nikon offers more legacy compatibility. Look at F mount vs EF. They've been supporting the same basic mount since the 1950s. Nikon still offers new film cameras and still makes manual focus lenses like the Ai-S 28/2.8.

When I heard about the R5, my first thought was that Canon was going all in on mirrorless, in a way that looks a lot like how they switched from FD to EF when EOS was introduced. Except, in this case they at least made the R series backwards compatible with EF lenses. Forcing everyone to abandon their FD lenses must have lost them a bunch of customers, but they made enough money selling the new EF lenses, and they had some pretty great cameras to help win new ones and even keep some of the angry ones.

Early on in this thread, somebody said something about when EF came out, well, you can always turn off AF. Yes, but no. If you're ever shot with something like a new F-1 or a T90, and then tried MF on an EOS body, you know that that's a real step backwards. No split prism. Crappy little MF rings. Lousy (well, really, no) damping. For most people, switching to mirrorless, after the discomfort of learning some new habits, will not be nearly as disruptive as switching from a T-90 to an EOS 1.

Anyway, if you want the 20 FPS, you're not going to get that with a mirror. Nor are you going to get Eye AF, or AF tracking across the frame. Does everyone need these features? No. But the competition is selling a fair amount of cameras because of them.

I rather doubt we'll see a 5DV, but that's just my guess based on how Canon has made their paradigm shifts in the past. I think that, if you really want to stick with DSLRs for a lot longer, you might look at Nikon, or, if you're adventurous, Pentax.

Agree, just thinking, the change from FD to EF was in a different period, the market was growing. These days, partly because of mobile phones, the market is shrinking. Then it is much more important to keep current customers as getting new customers is difficult. However, I don't have enough information, this may be wrong.

 

[txsizzler]

Petalpixel has announced there won't be a successor. Sad but expected. I wonder how low the price on the IV will go? That might be a smart move.

Petapixel doesn't make the 5D and so doesn't get to announce things.

They've reported a rumor that it's dead. It's not even their rumor. It's from Canon Rumors. This is a site, reporting on another site, reporting on what someone who has been termed 'a reliable source' has told them.

Wishful and hopeful thinking on your part. Lets face it, the 5D line is dead, and the R5 is now the new line. The sooner you accept, the sooner you will move on.

That said, my 5D IV will continue to serve me well for many years to come.

 

[BlueRay2]

Petalpixel has announced there won't be a successor. Sad but expected. I wonder how low the price on the IV will go? That might be a smart move.

Petapixel doesn't make the 5D and so doesn't get to announce things.

They've reported a rumor that it's dead. It's not even their rumor. It's from Canon Rumors. This is a site, reporting on another site, reporting on what someone who has been termed 'a reliable source' has told them.

Wishful and hopeful thinking on your part. Lets face it, the 5D line is dead, and the R5 is now the new line. The sooner you accept, the sooner you will move on.

i don't remember canon stated that, officially, so i am not sure who is having wishful, hopeful thinking ;-)

That said, my 5D IV will continue to serve me well for many years to come.

 

[SQLGuy]

Historically, Canon makes clean breaks, and Nikon offers more legacy compatibility. Look at F mount vs EF. They've been supporting the same basic mount since the 1950s. Nikon still offers new film cameras and still makes manual focus lenses like the Ai-S 28/2.8.

When I heard about the R5, my first thought was that Canon was going all in on mirrorless, in a way that looks a lot like how they switched from FD to EF when EOS was introduced. Except, in this case they at least made the R series backwards compatible with EF lenses. Forcing everyone to abandon their FD lenses must have lost them a bunch of customers, but they made enough money selling the new EF lenses, and they had some pretty great cameras to help win new ones and even keep some of the angry ones.

Early on in this thread, somebody said something about when EF came out, well, you can always turn off AF. Yes, but no. If you're ever shot with something like a new F-1 or a T90, and then tried MF on an EOS body, you know that that's a real step backwards. No split prism. Crappy little MF rings. Lousy (well, really, no) damping. For most people, switching to mirrorless, after the discomfort of learning some new habits, will not be nearly as disruptive as switching from a T-90 to an EOS 1.

Anyway, if you want the 20 FPS, you're not going to get that with a mirror. Nor are you going to get Eye AF, or AF tracking across the frame. Does everyone need these features? No. But the competition is selling a fair amount of cameras because of them.

I rather doubt we'll see a 5DV, but that's just my guess based on how Canon has made their paradigm shifts in the past. I think that, if you really want to stick with DSLRs for a lot longer, you might look at Nikon, or, if you're adventurous, Pentax.

Agree, just thinking, the change from FD to EF was in a different period, the market was growing. These days, partly because of mobile phones, the market is shrinking. Then it is much more important to keep current customers as getting new customers is difficult. However, I don't have enough information, this may be wrong.

I would like to think that manufacturers today would want to keep their legacy customers, but, Nikon is (so far) doing nothing to support their screw drive lenses on Z, and Sony has done nearly nothing at all in the last few years to try to keep their A mount customers. At least partly because of the dramatic break that Canon made with EF (all electronic), they are so far providing the best support for their SLR lenses on their mirrorless bodies.

 

[jayrandomer]

Petalpixel has announced there won't be a successor. Sad but expected. I wonder how low the price on the IV will go? That might be a smart move.

Petapixel doesn't make the 5D and so doesn't get to announce things.

They've reported a rumor that it's dead. It's not even their rumor. It's from Canon Rumors. This is a site, reporting on another site, reporting on what someone who has been termed 'a reliable source' has told them.

Wishful and hopeful thinking on your part. Lets face it, the 5D line is dead, and the R5 is now the new line. The sooner you accept, the sooner you will move on.

That said, my 5D IV will continue to serve me well for many years to come.

I'm 5-10 years removed from needing to upgrade again. I suspect we'll have better information on any DSLR replacements by then, or without any, a better understanding of Canon's intentions.

No need to 'move on' 5 years ahead of time. Especially based on something literally called 'Canon rumors'.

 

[BlueRay2]

Historically, Canon makes clean breaks, and Nikon offers more legacy compatibility. Look at F mount vs EF. They've been supporting the same basic mount since the 1950s. Nikon still offers new film cameras and still makes manual focus lenses like the Ai-S 28/2.8.

When I heard about the R5, my first thought was that Canon was going all in on mirrorless, in a way that looks a lot like how they switched from FD to EF when EOS was introduced. Except, in this case they at least made the R series backwards compatible with EF lenses. Forcing everyone to abandon their FD lenses must have lost them a bunch of customers, but they made enough money selling the new EF lenses, and they had some pretty great cameras to help win new ones and even keep some of the angry ones.

Early on in this thread, somebody said something about when EF came out, well, you can always turn off AF. Yes, but no. If you're ever shot with something like a new F-1 or a T90, and then tried MF on an EOS body, you know that that's a real step backwards. No split prism. Crappy little MF rings. Lousy (well, really, no) damping. For most people, switching to mirrorless, after the discomfort of learning some new habits, will not be nearly as disruptive as switching from a T-90 to an EOS 1.

Anyway, if you want the 20 FPS, you're not going to get that with a mirror. Nor are you going to get Eye AF, or AF tracking across the frame. Does everyone need these features? No. But the competition is selling a fair amount of cameras because of them.

I rather doubt we'll see a 5DV, but that's just my guess based on how Canon has made their paradigm shifts in the past. I think that, if you really want to stick with DSLRs for a lot longer, you might look at Nikon, or, if you're adventurous, Pentax.

Agree, just thinking, the change from FD to EF was in a different period, the market was growing. These days, partly because of mobile phones, the market is shrinking. Then it is much more important to keep current customers as getting new customers is difficult. However, I don't have enough information, this may be wrong.

I would like to think that manufacturers today would want to keep their legacy customers, but, Nikon is (so far) doing nothing to support their screw drive lenses on Z, and Sony has done nearly nothing at all in the last few years to try to keep their A mount customers. At least partly because of the dramatic break that Canon made with EF (all electronic), they are so far providing the best support for their SLR lenses on their mirrorless bodies.

that is exactly the reason why i have stuck with canon since 2006, it is called "customer respect and understanding"!

 

[h00ligan]

Killing all dslr + optical viewfinder(if they do) and making an incompatible though adaptable lens mount to me doesn’t scream we care about customers.



for me if I have to change everything I own it’s probably time to move brands. I’m not a big far off the lens choices of rf and I find the pricing to be that which I am not willing to pay. If I switch in the next year they’re not doing anything to keep me as a customer with the combo of those two things.

I do get that we have a lot of canon fans here. I need good gear within a budget that covers focal ranges I want covered with quality that I approve - canon isn’t covering 2/3 of those right now in rf.

 

[Rakumi]

Maybe it will be renamed Rebel+ or something. A crop Rebel and FF Rebel. I dont think they will have the Rebel line as their only DSLR but I also do not see much being put into the segment.

 

[Rakumi]

If Canon abandons the EF mount and stops supporting it, they leave an opening for others to take open that spot. You already have third party cameras/camcorders that use the EF mount. People will fill the void and Canon will lose out.

 

[SQLGuy]

If Canon abandons the EF mount and stops supporting it, they leave an opening for others to take open that spot. You already have third party cameras/camcorders that use the EF mount. People will fill the void and Canon will lose out.

Who makes a 3rd party EF mount DSLR?

Sigma had their SA mount cameras which used EF protocols but a different mechanical interface. Although, I think they were using their reverse engineered interpretation of EF protocols which they also used for their EF lenses.

Judging by EF adapters for other mirrorless cameras, like the MC-11, any 3rd party EF DSLR would probably still not support Canon EF lenses as well as Canon's adapters on R bodies...

 

[Rakumi]

Not quite DSLRs but cinema cameras like the BMPC 6k and a few other video products. And it would take nothing for a camera company to make what would then be known as a old school DSLR style camera with all the things a photographer would need.