Anyone else going to wait for 5D Mark V

[Jozef M]

I don't think phone image quality is up to even 10 year old APS-C DSLRs with kit lens. At least comparing the old T2i that I let my daughters use to my wife's iPhone 11.

That doesn't mean the phone can't take great images, especially in less challenging light, but DSLRs are still noticeably better. I think the bigger issue is that both are way above the threshold for "good enough to record the moment". I would say 99% of the photos I share are from my (now very old) iPhone 6.

The phone pictures are meant to be viewed on a phone screen or this from a tablet.
And on that screen they look beautiful.
This satisfies 99% of the need to save moments.


If those phone jpeg photographers decide to print a large and expensive photo book, then they are surprised about the poor print quality on paper, usually it's up to the supplier of these books, who just can print poorly, look how good that picture is on my phone, and how bad in my book.
99% of phone photographers know absolutely nothing about photography.

Jozef

 

[jayrandomer]

I don't think phone image quality is up to even 10 year old APS-C DSLRs with kit lens. At least comparing the old T2i that I let my daughters use to my wife's iPhone 11.

That doesn't mean the phone can't take great images, especially in less challenging light, but DSLRs are still noticeably better. I think the bigger issue is that both are way above the threshold for "good enough to record the moment". I would say 99% of the photos I share are from my (now very old) iPhone 6.

The phone pictures are meant to be viewed on a phone screen or this from a tablet.
And on that screen they look beautiful.
This satisfies 99% of the need to save moments.

If those phone jpeg photographers decide to print a large and expensive photo book, then they are surprised about the poor print quality on paper, usually it's up to the supplier of these books, who just can print poorly, look how good that picture is on my phone, and how bad in my book.
99% of phone photographers know absolutely nothing about photography.

Jozef

Yeah. 80% of the photos I print are from 'real' cameras. The remaining 20% are photo books with collages of the little ones, never bigger than 4x6 on the page and usually a lot smaller.

I know it's swimming upstream at this point, but I have convinced a few people disappointed with photo prints from their camera to spend a little money on refurb Rebel DSLRs. Considering how cheap they can be on sale (often < $300 with kit lens) they can take amazing photos. Of course those cheaper cameras can be a gateway drug...

 

[TheBlackGrouse]

These days, partly because of mobile phones, the market is shrinking.

No, not because of phones. It’s that small P&S image sensors have gotten good enough for family and personal snapshots. They are just in a small and much more convenient form factor (handheld internet tablet) than in even a small camera let alone a heavy dslr with big lens

Then it is much more important to keep current customers as getting new customers is difficult. However, I don't have enough information, this may be wrong.

I meant that the cameras (sensor, lens, AF etc.) in mobile phones are good enough for the majority of the group of people taking pictures. They don't need an extra camera.

 

[Maverick07]

These days, partly because of mobile phones, the market is shrinking.

No, not because of phones. It’s that small P&S image sensors have gotten good enough for family and personal snapshots. They are just in a small and much more convenient form factor (handheld internet tablet) than in even a small camera let alone a heavy dslr with big lens

Then it is much more important to keep current customers as getting new customers is difficult. However, I don't have enough information, this may be wrong.

I meant that the cameras (sensor, lens, AF etc.) in mobile phones are good enough for the majority of the group of people taking pictures. They don't need an extra camera.

Concur with most are content with shooting knowing very little about photography then posting to social media. I really believe software exist to increase size while maintaining quality.

 

[Yxa]

I like many things in R5. I wish 5D Mark IV had flippy screen, and 45MP and faster FPS. Don't care about 8K video. Love new RF lenses too.

But, reading between the interview lines and what Canon has been saying, there will be Canon 5D Mark V coming in early 2021. I hope it will have all these new goodies too. I am waiting for 5D Mark V. Until then, 5D Mark IV is working great for me.

2ShootDigital

Sounds like the D850