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Would it not be wise to wait a couple of months
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James Stirling
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So because they have 96 posts they should not dare to have an opposing position to yours?
It's OK to discuss what a moderator posts as a regular forum member. It is not OK to discuss the moderation.
Jim
michaeladawson
Forum Pro
If everyone followed your advice no one would buy the camera. So no one would be using the camera to determine if it was a good product or not. And no one could ever buy the camera because it would never have gone through any good real world shake down.
Cautious people do wait a few months before they buy. They don’t need you to tell them. The rest of us are first adopters and we know it and we know the risks. Again, we don’t need you to tell us we’re foolish for buying early.
Methinks more like sour grapes on his part.
Very surprised at you Mike, very. You have been around for so long: this is not directed to you.
What is all this aggressiveness. Can it be that I am right? or ...
phil from seattle
Senior Member
It appears to be similar in the US - went to a camera store yesterday (Kenmore Camera, online presence as well as local) and the Z7 was out of stock. They were pretty pointed about the demand being strong and shipments were trickling in at a lower rate than orders. The bigger online outfits like B&H don't appear to have stock either. Kenmore had EOS R's available, though, and the same sales guy said demand for it wasn't anything like the Z7. If one is in the market for an EOS R, waiting may get you a better price. or it may not, lol.
Personally, I think life is too short to wait around to save a few bucks or get incrementally better features. Especially if you don't know how long you are going to have to wait. Buy or buy not, there is no wait, apologies to Yoda.
Technology getting better everyday, of course, most of new version is better than the old one. That's how things move on.
How long do you want to wait? You want the supper cheap price with everything? I want it too but nothing free, remember that. Why nobody complain about Leica at $20,000.00. Or about Classic cars cost more money?
Think through, man.
I had D1,D3,D4 and D5 I know how the market and technology change.
You get thing with market price. For sure Nikon can make better camera than Z7 but the market price. Z7 is already good as it is still back order, same as D850.
And of course, there is always having people who asking more.
Yes, it is benefit for consumer, we can get better product. However, don't say the side is bias, don't be negative.
We are here for learning the Z7 information, we discuss about it. If person does not like it then find it by himself(herself)or don't buy it, don't use it.
How long do you want to wait? You want the supper cheap price with everything? I want it too but nothing free, remember that. Why nobody complain about Leica at $20,000.00. Or about Classic cars cost more money?
Think through, man.
I had D1,D3,D4 and D5 I know how the market and technology change.
You get thing with market price. For sure Nikon can make better camera than Z7 but the market price. Z7 is already good as it is still back order, same as D850.
And of course, there is always having people who asking more.
Yes, it is benefit for consumer, we can get better product. However, don't say the side is bias, don't be negative.
We are here for learning the Z7 information, we discuss about it. If person does not like it then find it by himself(herself)or don't buy it, don't use it.
EricTheAstroJunkie
Senior Member
I think it's comical that:
A) you judge an individual's expertise level on the number of posts they have on a random forum.
2) you feel the need to think I am an expert or think I ever claimed to be one or even assumed I was one.
III) you think being "here" for a long time somehow makes your opinion worth more than a few pinches of salt.
Nikon cameras, like every camera in existence, have their issues. Telling people to wait is a pointless exercise, people should review the cameras available and buy the one that works for them at the time. End of story. There is literally zero point in waiting if the camera is known to function in a capacity that best suits your needs. Unless you are an individual hunting camera deals or if the camera is completely untested for your purposes then waiting does you no good. If you're someone who is just dropping money on a camera without having done any research then you get what you deserve when the camera you by has problems for how you use it.
All I'm saying is that the type of post you created is 100% completely useless, it doesn't offer any arguments as to why someone should wait, it doesn't shed light on issues the camera has which could cause someone to wait, it doesn't provide evidence as to why Jim's work would contribute to someone waiting, it doesn't do anything other than cast negative shadows towards the camera (unnecessarily so) and create divisive attitudes among posters here. Based upon your post history this is a common theme for the threads you create and unfortunately the results of this common theme (caused by you and many others) are why people avoid DPR forums.
A) you judge an individual's expertise level on the number of posts they have on a random forum.
2) you feel the need to think I am an expert or think I ever claimed to be one or even assumed I was one.
III) you think being "here" for a long time somehow makes your opinion worth more than a few pinches of salt.
Nikon cameras, like every camera in existence, have their issues. Telling people to wait is a pointless exercise, people should review the cameras available and buy the one that works for them at the time. End of story. There is literally zero point in waiting if the camera is known to function in a capacity that best suits your needs. Unless you are an individual hunting camera deals or if the camera is completely untested for your purposes then waiting does you no good. If you're someone who is just dropping money on a camera without having done any research then you get what you deserve when the camera you by has problems for how you use it.
All I'm saying is that the type of post you created is 100% completely useless, it doesn't offer any arguments as to why someone should wait, it doesn't shed light on issues the camera has which could cause someone to wait, it doesn't provide evidence as to why Jim's work would contribute to someone waiting, it doesn't do anything other than cast negative shadows towards the camera (unnecessarily so) and create divisive attitudes among posters here. Based upon your post history this is a common theme for the threads you create and unfortunately the results of this common theme (caused by you and many others) are why people avoid DPR forums.
Hilifer
Senior Member
I heard there are serious pre-production issues with the Z10 related to Retinal AF which may push it out to 2025.
Give the guy a break. You know he didn't mean to wait for a different Z model. He was talking about waiting on the Z7.
Hilifer
Senior Member
The response wasn’t directed to the OP... sorry for the confusion. I’m a proud owner of a Z7 and loving it.
Hilifer
Senior Member
I doubt anyone was offended, or at least had any reason to be.
MyReality
Veteran Member
For US buyers there are many reasons to wait to buy camera gear 2 to 4 months from now. The main one being the Christmas buying season after Nov. 1. Another reason is inventory clearance after Christmas. A more important reason is first model problems.
Sybil Enders
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Odd behavior.
MyReality
Veteran Member
Wise words, but does not apply to gearheads.
For greatest product maturity and highest reliability, buying a few months before production ceases is a good plan.
Jim
Jim
MyReality
Veteran Member
Nice, but not many humans can delay near instant gratification that long, one exception is marriage.
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