Help Me Understand......

[BroLuke]

No problem. It's just that a DSLR DOES NOT need to be FF to be
relatively high priced.

Jon.
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'You are not Ansel Adams.'

Yup,

As the D2$'s prove

BL

 

[David Martin]

..very enjoyable photos in your gallery - you keep up the good work!

Dave,
Great answer that really puts all this equipment stuff in
perspective!! I always enjoy your contributions in this forum.
Keep up the good work.
Don
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def
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'Just a wildebeest on the plain of life'
Please see profile for equipment

 

[Frank Benvenuto]

Just rent 5D & 85L and try it in your studio, than let me know what
makes better pictures.

Lenny,

No need to rent that now.. Perhaps if I need to do a low light assignment I might.. I know there isn't a possiblility that the 5D will provide me with better studio shots then my D2Xs is now..

I REALLY like the new features the Mark III brings to the table.. I think I will let the dust settle on this new machine for about 6 months then think about buying one.. I would need the 28-70 2.8 for it.. or whatever Canons' range is.. Then again, in 6 months we may know the specs on Nikons new D3X.. So I think for me, and since I already own a D2Xs and Pro glass.. waiting is the best approach.. Don't you think?

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Frank Benvenuto

 

[Frank Benvenuto]

Many people think the x1.3 sensor is a very good compromise,
between the two others from Canon. Wide but without the soft
corners often
found on some lenses with the 5D.

Hey Cowboy,

This is what I am thinking.. That crop factor could very well be the best of both worlds..

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Subject and Composition Trumps Any Camera Flaws.
Frank Benvenuto

 

[Space Cowboy]

Hello Frank,

Yes, I think it might well be the case.

Of course, FF and x1.6 crop enthusiasts will surely disagree with me, but since both of those formats have some severe lows the x1.3 has not.

Jon.
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'You are not Ansel Adams.'

 

[Frank Benvenuto]

Hello Frank,

Yes, I think it might well be the case.

Of course, FF and x1.6 crop enthusiasts will surely disagree with
me, but since both of those formats have some severe lows the x1.3
has not.

Cowboy,

From what I have read, the biggest issue with FF is limits of current 35mm lenses.. Light falloff, Vignetting (sp) and other issues.. With the 1.3 you eliminate all that.. As you know, one major benefit for 1.5 factor is you are always using the sweet spot of the lens.. Especially when that lense is a 35mm format and not a DX style..

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Subject and Composition Trumps Any Camera Flaws.
Frank Benvenuto

 

[DeeDee G.]

I have one on order myself.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/public_files/Canon_EOS-1D_Mark_III_White_Paper.pdf
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[Frank Benvenuto]

Nice research material.. thanks for posing.
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Frank Benvenuto

 

[DeeDee G.]

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[lenny_shp]

I know there isn't a possiblility that the 5D will provide me with better studio shots then my D2Xs is now..

Wow, you still don't get my point. First I suggested 85L, possibly best Canon made prime for portraits (I guess this is what you do in studio?), second again camera.... comon!!!

Try what I said and you might have twice more customers!!! No joke here ...

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[Frank Benvenuto]

I know there isn't a possiblility that the 5D will provide me with better studio shots then my D2Xs is now..

Wow, you still don't get my point. First I suggested 85L, possibly
best Canon made prime for portraits (I guess this is what you do in
studio?), second again camera.... comon!!!

Try what I said and you might have twice more customers!!! No joke
here ...

No . i think you are the one that continues to miss my point Lenny. Your Canon 5D is NOT gonna make better photos at studio settings then my D2Xs.. You forget.. Nikkor makes some pretty good glass too.. You are starting to sound "brain washed" with all this Canon stuff your spouting out..

Here's are a few "snap shots" at ISO 100.. You gonna beat these? Let see..









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Subject and Composition Trumps Any Camera Flaws.
Frank Benvenuto

 

[lenny_shp]

I am just suggesting, do you wish to check real results from Canon get combo I said and try? Instead of 85L you could also try 135L.

No brainwash or comercial here. I know for fakt you will scream wow!!! Believe me, and if not just forget about this conversation.

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[Frank Benvenuto]

and if not just forget about this conversation.

Lenny,

I have seen enough in your gallery and other 5D galleries, in fact in other Canon galleries to know you are not gonna beat a D2Xs at studio settings for both resolution, color rendition and overall look. I don't like the colors of many of your shots. They just don't look natural to me.. Nothng more and nothing less.. Personal opinion I guess. Nothing more and nothing less. To suggest that I would "double" my business if I got a 5D is the funniest thing I have read in quite some time. .Thank you for the laugh.. I needed it.. This place is getting way to serious lately.

So I think we will "forget about this conversation"

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Subject and Composition Trumps Any Camera Flaws.
Frank Benvenuto

 

[T3]

You aren't getting the full picture. Therefore, you apparently
don't have a full understanding of the situation. Canon users have
the option of using APS or FF. Nikon users only have the option of
using APS.

Wrong!

I have the option of owning both Nikon and Canon.

Obviously, I was refering to those who use the Nikon system without adding the Canon system on top of that. Hopefully, you weren't too dense to understand that. Not everyone wants to run two seperate systems concurrently. Hence, those in the Nikon camp who, as you said, are "threatening to go Canon unless Nikon releases a FF dslr!" Most of them are interested in running one system, not several systems. So they switch.

For example, here's one long-time Nikon user who switched to Canon and didn't want to run both systems because "Owning both Canon and Nikon systems, it’s not like I can’t shoot both—except that carrying two systems gets tedious and heavy: two chargers, two extra batteries, two lens systems and at least two bodies."

http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/free/GoodbyeNikon/index.html

But the nice thing about switching to Canon is that Nikon lenses can be used on Canon bodies, albeit with stop-down metering and manual focus only. However, most Nikon users choose to switch entirely. And FF is definitely one reason for switching. Here's another long-time Nikon photographer who switched entirely to Canon, particularly for Canon's FF body, the 1Ds MKII. He writes about it in is August 2005 "Despatch" (choose Augst 2005 in the drop-down menu):

http://www.davidnoton.com/despatches.php

"I’ve gone for the Canon EOS 1Ds mkII...It's meant, however, junking my entire Nikon system, which has been a bitter pill to swallow."

But apparently, many photographers like him have found the switch to be worthwhile.