Hi Nixda, to make sure I have understood this correctly:
say we shoot at ISO 800 at the three different levels of DR settings (100, 200, 400) -- my underestanding of what you say is that the EXPOSURE does not change, as in all three of those scenarios the shutter speed, aperture and ISO at 800 are constant.
That is not what I say, and I thought I had addressed that in my write-up ;-)
Exposure is determined by scene luminance, aperture and shutter speed, which determine the amount of light falling onto the sensor. ISO isn't part of exposure, and it has never been. There is a notion that ISO is part of exposure, and it is a stubborn one, but it came from a misinterpretation of the concepts.
Your statement above would need to read:
"EXPOSURE does not change, as in all three of those scenarios the shutter speed and aperture are constant" (No ISO)
In your follow-up post, you mentioned the triangle that consists of aperture, shutter speed and ISO. That triangle is not meant to
represent exposure, even if some people call it "exposure triangle". That triangle is a tool for determining exposure within the constraint of a given, typically pre-defined image brightness, and that exposure only consists of the aperture+shutter speed part of the triangle. The original name for that triangle is "Photographic Triangle", but somewhere, somehow, someone misrepresented that triangle as the exposure triangle, and that name unfortunately stuck.
Exposure and ISO combine to give image brightness. Take a certain exposure and "apply different ISOs" to it, and you'll get images with different brightness. Some people equate exposure with brightness. I can only hope to convince them that this way of thinking isn't correct, but sometimes the best one can do is to define the terms and how one uses them and then hope the conversation isn't going to be muddled by misunderstandings.
So, the three images you are talking about have the same exposure, because they were taken with the same aperture and shutter speed. And they have the same brightness, because they are all
subjected to what ISO800 represents.
However, what does change is the analog amplification -- it goes down by 1 stop in DR 200 and 2 stops in DR 400. BUT, for example, the internal raw processor tone maps, makes shadows lighter, preserves highlights, etc. such that the overall ISO of the photo remains 800 REGARDLESS of the DR.
Correct. ISO is a concept that relates to the mapping of incident light hitting a camera to output brightness of an image we see with our own eyes. Specifically, it is about middle gray. Any manipulation of originally captured light through a mixture of analog amplification and application of tone curves that results in the same patch of middle gray to be rendered in the resulting images with the same brightness will be assigned the same ISO value. In other words, images taken with ISO800 and DR100, DR200, DR400, and the same aperture and shutter speed will have middle gray come out with the same brightness.
The only thing that has changed is that the analog amplification has reduced.... therefore, to say that shooting at DR 200 or DR 400 is technically incorrect; one should say: at DR 200 or DR 400, the ISO will still be at 800, but the analog implification will be less and offset by tone-mapping for a brighness level that gives ISO 800...
Yes. The ISO was set to 800, and that is what it is for the resulting images. DR has no effect on the ISO value. Indeed, the DR setting only affects how the originally captured signal is manipulated within the constraint of the ISO800 setting.
Coming back to the photographic triangle: take aperture, shutter speed and ISO, change any one of them, and the resulting image brightness will change. But ISO can be further broken up into two parts: analog amplification (which happens inside the hardware of a camera before conversion of the captured signal to digital numbers) and further manipulation of the digital numbers through software (either inside the camera or externally). We now have a "Photographic Quadrangle", four parameters that affect image brightness. Let's combine aperture and shutter speed into exposure, and we have a new Photographic Triangle that is relevant to the scenario here, and it consists of exposure, analog amplification, and software manipulation. Change any one of them, and you change the image brightness.
But this new triangle now also corresponds directly to the three prime spots where clipping can occur in digital photography, at the sensor level, during analog amplification, and during software manipulation. The DR modes address highlight clipping (due to too much analog amplification), so I believe that it is useful to think about the photographic triangle/quadrangle this way when looking at the DR modes.
Having said that, there are additional clipping opportunities, e.g., when cranking up the monitor brightness or during printing. Just to drive home what I said here, changing the monitor brightness changes the ISO assigned to an image. :-D