A possible solution for R5/R6 overheating in video mode ...

[Ammer Naber]

I have a unique shooting requirement. I shoot surfing from the beach. What I do is put the EOS R6 in 4k 60 movie mode. When the person I am shooting is up and riding, I press the movie record button. What this does is capture essentially 60 frames where I can select the exact perfect shot from the movie clip via frame grab. The still results are as good if not better than my 7D MK II, but now I am getting 60 shots per second to choose from. As a bonus I also ave a video clip of the ride. The issue I have is the camera constantly overheats, even in cool weather conditions when I am not actually recording the video. I have the camera on and I am watching the viewfinder while waiting to press the record button. In an entire hour of shooting, I probablly end up with 3 total minutes combined of recorded video. Is it normal behavior for the camera to overheat while simply waiting to shoot? I have temporarily disabled the servo-af and it has no effect. It still starts the overheat countdown timer when just waiting to record. I am leaving the viewfinder on the entire time to wait for someone to surf. Is the viewfinder enough to trigger the overheat or is it the constant focusing that the camera has to do to prepare for the recording that is causing this?

 

[RDM5546]

I have a unique shooting requirement. I shoot surfing from the beach. What I do is put the EOS R6 in 4k 60 movie mode. When the person I am shooting is up and riding, I press the movie record button. What this does is capture essentially 60 frames where I can select the exact perfect shot from the movie clip via frame grab. The still results are as good if not better than my 7D MK II, but now I am getting 60 shots per second to choose from. As a bonus I also ave a video clip of the ride. The issue I have is the camera constantly overheats, even in cool weather conditions when I am not actually recording the video. I have the camera on and I am watching the viewfinder while waiting to press the record button. In an entire hour of shooting, I probablly end up with 3 total minutes combined of recorded video. Is it normal behavior for the camera to overheat while simply waiting to shoot? I have temporarily disabled the servo-af and it has no effect. It still starts the overheat countdown timer when just waiting to record. I am leaving the viewfinder on the entire time to wait for someone to surf. Is the viewfinder enough to trigger the overheat or is it the constant focusing that the camera has to do to prepare for the recording that is causing this?

I am pretty sure the problem would go away if you used a Ninja V external record that will record the 4K60 video. 4k30HQ will give you more fine detail and better colors at 30fps. using the Ninja V. It is not idea but it what Ido because it works. I record for 90-120 minutes in 4K60 using the viefinder and the large bright easy to see Ninja V display.

No time or thermal problems seen with Ninja V doing the recording. I have hours of recordings back to back in 4KHQ with no problems. However, I have not shot surfer like you describe. I would borrow a Ninja V or rent one to try and evaluate first for your exact use case.

 

[NickZ2016]

Have you updated the firmware? Supposedly the firmware update partially fixed the issue of the heat timer running even without recording.

 

[RDM5546]

Have you updated the firmware? Supposedly the firmware update partially fixed the issue of the heat timer running even without recording.

The update for the R5 did help a lot. I keep hoping for another one like that. Every bit helps. Getting rid of the 30 minute camera timer would be nice too. There is a rumor of an new upgrade next month some time.

 

[en2oh]

There is a clever solution by Matt at DIY Perks on YouTube

Don't be put off by the seemingly bush hack solution - he uses that to prove the point.

Hi solution actually is very elegant and leaves the camera intact!

Very Clever!

Enjoy,

Doug

would have been this:

With the option to install a fan with an external power; something like this:

this thing looks more like a Swiss knife than a camera ;-)

BTW, where is this fan gonna draw power from? looks too big to rely on camera battery,

 

[RDM5546]

There is a clever solution by Matt at DIY Perks on YouTube

Don't be put off by the seemingly bush hack solution - he uses that to prove the point.

Hi solution actually is very elegant and leaves the camera intact!

Very Clever!

Enjoy,

Doug

would have been this:

With the option to install a fan with an external power; something like this:

this thing looks more like a Swiss knife than a camera ;-)

BTW, where is this fan gonna draw power from? looks too big to rely on camera battery,

This looks like an early April fools joke IMO. It easy to photoshop a picture but where is there any evidence of actual results from a such fan on this camera? There is none because it likely will not solve the problem IMO.

The problem is easily solved howeever by using a Ninja V which also reduces the storage cost through low cost SSD drives. You get 2TB of video storage in SSD for $200 while a 2TB CF express costs 10X more. Ninja V makes workflow much easier recording in ProRes format and greatly speeds up subsequent computer workflow. Now, that is what I call elegant!

 

[bernie r]

There is a clever solution by Matt at DIY Perks on YouTube

Don't be put off by the seemingly bush hack solution - he uses that to prove the point.

Hi solution actually is very elegant and leaves the camera intact!

Very Clever!

Enjoy,

Doug

would have been this:

With the option to install a fan with an external power; something like this:

this thing looks more like a Swiss knife than a camera ;-)

BTW, where is this fan gonna draw power from? looks too big to rely on camera battery,

This looks like an early April fools joke IMO. It easy to photoshop a picture but where is there any evidence of actual results from a such fan on this camera? There is none because it likely will not solve the problem IMO.

The problem is easily solved howeever by using a Ninja V which also reduces the storage cost through low cost SSD drives. You get 2TB of video storage in SSD for $200 while a 2TB CF express costs 10X more. Ninja V makes workflow much easier recording in ProRes format and greatly speeds up subsequent computer workflow. Now, that is what I call elegant!

If only the Ninja V got an upgrade so we could use 8K 12 bit with it, that would be good. Ninja V currently just isn't powerful enough for it.

Also the HDMI is severely limited.

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Camera:
Canon EOS R5
Canon RF 15-35 2.8
Canon RF 28-70 2
Canon EF 70-200 2.8
Canon EF 500 f/4 L IS II USM + 1.4X III
Sigma 105 1.4 DG HSM Art
Stuff:
Gitzo Fluid Gimbal Head
Gitzo GT4543LS Systematic Series 4 Carbon eXact Long Tripod
Benro Mach3 TMA38CL Carbon Fibre Tripod
Benro G3 Ball Head

 

[RDM5546]

There is a clever solution by Matt at DIY Perks on YouTube

Don't be put off by the seemingly bush hack solution - he uses that to prove the point.

Hi solution actually is very elegant and leaves the camera intact!

Very Clever!

Enjoy,

Doug

would have been this:

With the option to install a fan with an external power; something like this:

this thing looks more like a Swiss knife than a camera ;-)

BTW, where is this fan gonna draw power from? looks too big to rely on camera battery,

This looks like an early April fools joke IMO. It easy to photoshop a picture but where is there any evidence of actual results from a such fan on this camera? There is none because it likely will not solve the problem IMO.

The problem is easily solved howeever by using a Ninja V which also reduces the storage cost through low cost SSD drives. You get 2TB of video storage in SSD for $200 while a 2TB CF express costs 10X more. Ninja V makes workflow much easier recording in ProRes format and greatly speeds up subsequent computer workflow. Now, that is what I call elegant!

If only the Ninja V got an upgrade so we could use 8K 12 bit with it, that would be good. Ninja V currently just isn't powerful enough for it.

Also the HDMI is severely limited.

The Ninja V recording 4KHQ is awesome for me for now and better than anything I seen without spending a very lot more money. Sure in a few years there will be new cameras, new HDMI standards, and recorders. Even the A1 is not enough to the match the beautifully detailed 4KHQ made from the in-camera. downsampled 8K .

4KHQ will do me for now. I will upgrade when 8K is more mature. I will only use 8K only for special purpose short duration clips for now when I need to crop in post. We will see what the R5C brings and if it is more suited for my needs. I can always use a better camera to produce better results.

 

[bernie r]

There is a clever solution by Matt at DIY Perks on YouTube

Don't be put off by the seemingly bush hack solution - he uses that to prove the point.

Hi solution actually is very elegant and leaves the camera intact!

Very Clever!

Enjoy,

Doug

would have been this:

With the option to install a fan with an external power; something like this:

this thing looks more like a Swiss knife than a camera ;-)

BTW, where is this fan gonna draw power from? looks too big to rely on camera battery,

This looks like an early April fools joke IMO. It easy to photoshop a picture but where is there any evidence of actual results from a such fan on this camera? There is none because it likely will not solve the problem IMO.

The problem is easily solved howeever by using a Ninja V which also reduces the storage cost through low cost SSD drives. You get 2TB of video storage in SSD for $200 while a 2TB CF express costs 10X more. Ninja V makes workflow much easier recording in ProRes format and greatly speeds up subsequent computer workflow. Now, that is what I call elegant!

If only the Ninja V got an upgrade so we could use 8K 12 bit with it, that would be good. Ninja V currently just isn't powerful enough for it.

Also the HDMI is severely limited.

The Ninja V recording 4KHQ is awesome for me for now and better than anything I seen without spending a very lot more money. Sure in a few years there will be new cameras, new HDMI standards, and recorders. Even the A1 is not enough to the match the beautifully detailed 4KHQ made from the in-camera. downsampled 8K .

4KHQ will do me for now. I will upgrade when 8K is more mature. I will only use 8K only for special purpose short duration clips for now when I need to crop in post. We will see what the R5C brings and if it is more suited for my needs. I can always use a better camera to produce better results.

New HDMI standards..? What? HDMI 2.1 already supports 8K 30 4:4:4 RGB 12 Bit.

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Camera:
Canon EOS R5
Canon RF 15-35 2.8
Canon RF 28-70 2
Canon EF 70-200 2.8
Canon EF 500 f/4 L IS II USM + 1.4X III
Sigma 105 1.4 DG HSM Art
Stuff:
Gitzo Fluid Gimbal Head
Gitzo GT4543LS Systematic Series 4 Carbon eXact Long Tripod
Benro Mach3 TMA38CL Carbon Fibre Tripod
Benro G3 Ball Head

 

[JConrad]

............ or they could have just put 2 large weather sealed holes in the bottom of the camera with removable rubber caps and made a accessory "FAN GRIP" that used 1 larger battery that left room for a small squirrel cage AKA quiet fan. That could be done very easily although that was probably too simple for them to figure out.

Or they could just add a heatpipe from the DigicX to the botom of the camera to provide good heat exchange with fan grip.

The problem with that is that this would cause the plate on the bottom of the camera to get rather hot, which for those without the 'fan grip' would pose a risk of burn or at the very least, being quite uncomfortable.