MLU on 300D (pic)

halfmac · Jun 23, 2004

Thank for the demonstration.

I leave my MLU on all the time.

When you shoot Continuous it does not work. (Normal Photography)
Shooting Single enables the MLU. (MLU photography)

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Alan
http://homepage.mac.com/halfmac/
Sony P51, F707, Canon DRebel

Molteni Bruno · Jun 24, 2004

These are the delay options:

0:1.5 SEC
1:3 SEC
2:4.5 SEC
3:6 SEC
4:7.5 SEC
5:10 SEC

Bruno

marbo uk said:
Im thinking of installing the hack mainly for MLU and astro
photography with my telescope.
I've had good results with long exposures of deep sky objects but
not so good with shorter exposures of the moon.
It must be down to shutter slap most of the time.

However a 1 second delay is not long enough for my scope to settle
down.
On the latest hack i see you can change the delay.

Does anyone know how long you can set the delay on MLU.

Thanks Mark.

stevenpro · Jun 24, 2004

halfmac said:
Thank for the demonstration.

I leave my MLU on all the time.

When you shoot Continuous it does not work. (Normal Photography)
Shooting Single enables the MLU. (MLU photography)

--
Alan
http://homepage.mac.com/halfmac/
Sony P51, F707, Canon DRebel

What would be a good all around setting for the MLU time?? I think the default is 1.5 sec. What are you guys using and why??

Thanks

marbo uk · Jun 24, 2004

Molteni Bruno said:
0:1.5 SEC
1:3 SEC
2:4.5 SEC
3:6 SEC
4:7.5 SEC
5:10 SEC

Bruno

marbo uk said:

Im thinking of installing the hack mainly for MLU and astro
photography with my telescope.
I've had good results with long exposures of deep sky objects but
not so good with shorter exposures of the moon.
It must be down to shutter slap most of the time.

However a 1 second delay is not long enough for my scope to settle
down.
On the latest hack i see you can change the delay.

Does anyone know how long you can set the delay on MLU.

Thanks Mark.

Click to expand...

-jeffB · Jun 25, 2004

Interesting comparison -- thanks!

One question I've had for a while: is IS able to compensate at all for mirror slap, or does it only compensate for gross movements of the lens (as opposed to the camera)? I figure it's probably not an issue in most usage, because you'd generally be on a tripod when you're using MLU, but I was curious...

Daniella68313 · Jun 25, 2004

I can't wait to try it. We got a new carbon fiber tripod with a good head and I will try to see if it make a good difference.

did you use the most recent hack and with with delay? the hack that I have has a non controlable delay of 3 seconds..is that what you used?

Marco_W said:
Just made a test to see if MLU really increases picture sharpness
considerably. (quick answer: YES it does)

This shot was done using a Manfrotto tripod and the 100-400L. I had
to use f/25 as it was very bright and I wanted to be in the shutter
time range where MLU has most of its effect. I've done multiple
tests and all pictures showed the same results - so YES, MLU is
absolutely great to have under certain conditions.

cheers
Marco

100% crop no post processing

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Saurulmaiel

Marco_W · Jun 26, 2004

1.) Don't know about IS as I always turn it off when using a tripod - interesting question though!

2.) I used the latest hack (B71) and set the delay time to 3 sec - as far as I remember the wasia version I had before had a fixed delay of 1.5sec. I think we owe Wasia a lot!! ;-)

jorge elguera · Jun 26, 2004

Does it hurt to set in on and forget about it ? If so, how many seconds are recommended for regular everyday use and eventual long shutter pics.

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jorge elguera
http://www.pbase.com/jorginho
Lima - Peru.

ErikH · Jun 26, 2004

Hi,

Sorry for the ignorant question but what does the delay do and why would I use different time delays?

Thanks

Marco_W said:
Just made a test to see if MLU really increases picture sharpness
considerably. (quick answer: YES it does)

This shot was done using a Manfrotto tripod and the 100-400L. I had
to use f/25 as it was very bright and I wanted to be in the shutter
time range where MLU has most of its effect. I've done multiple
tests and all pictures showed the same results - so YES, MLU is
absolutely great to have under certain conditions.

cheers
Marco

100% crop no post processing

--
ErikH
http://www.pbase.com/snapman

Daniella68313 · Jun 26, 2004

well you can enable it all the time but if you use single shot then it will be doing the delay each shot. You don't want to do this. Imagine that you want to take a photo of your pet or kids doing something interesting...then you press the shutter but the camera instead of taking the photo right away lift the mirror, wait 3 seconds and then take the photo.

3 seconds later your pet is back laying down snoring...

jorge elguera said:
Does it hurt to set in on and forget about it ? If so, how many
seconds are recommended for regular everyday use and eventual long
shutter pics.

--
jorge elguera
http://www.pbase.com/jorginho
Lima - Peru.

--
Minë Corma hostië të ilyë ar mordossë nutië të
Mornórëo Nóressë yassë i Fuini caitar.
Un thoron arart’a s’un hith mal’kemen ioke.
Saurulmaiel

John in Florida · Jun 26, 2004

we've seen in longer lenses has been caused by mirror slap. Hmmm...

Maybe because the Canon is so light...

Mark McGill · Jun 28, 2004

Mirror lock up is usually used with camera on tripod when taking still objects. It is most usefull with shutter speeds of about 1/30, 1/15, 1/8 to 1 sec. When the mirror swings up it vibrates the camera, the vibration does have much effect at higher shutter speeds as the shutter is only open a short time. With longer expousers the vibration is not happening through out the expouser and is not a problem. I can't see the need of a long delay as the vibration does not last long.

Wayne Larmon · Jun 28, 2004

You can toggle into burst mode to disable MLU. Burst mode works fine for single shots, so long as your shutter finger doesn't dawdle on the shutter. You should be able to toggle into burst mode as fast as you can do any other camera operation. If your kids are too fast for this, then maybe they need more Ritalin. (Ducks.)

Wayne Larmon

Daniella said:
well you can enable it all the time but if you use single shot then
it will be doing the delay each shot. You don't want to do this.
Imagine that you want to take a photo of your pet or kids doing
something interesting...then you press the shutter but the camera
instead of taking the photo right away lift the mirror, wait 3
seconds and then take the photo.

3 seconds later your pet is back laying down snoring...

-jeffB · Jun 30, 2004

Wayne Larmon said:
If your
kids are too fast for this, then maybe they need more Ritalin.
(Ducks.)

No, no, it's the squirrels that need Ritalin, not the ducks...

PaulyOly · Jun 30, 2004

that you used the timer or remote for the shot without MLU or both for that matter? I've used mirror lock up a few times and find it useful, especially for 400mm shots where my subject isn't moving much.

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Cursor · Jun 30, 2004

You mentioned "shutter time range where MLU has most of its effect". Is MLU effective/good idea for long exposures, including bulb?

What's the "shutter range" being referred to?

Thanks.

Marco_W said:
Just made a test to see if MLU really increases picture sharpness
considerably. (quick answer: YES it does)

This shot was done using a Manfrotto tripod and the 100-400L. I had
to use f/25 as it was very bright and I wanted to be in the shutter
time range where MLU has most of its effect. I've done multiple
tests and all pictures showed the same results - so YES, MLU is
absolutely great to have under certain conditions.

cheers
Marco

100% crop no post processing

Wayne Larmon · Jun 30, 2004

-jeffB said:
Wayne Larmon said:

If your
kids are too fast for this, then maybe they need more Ritalin.
(Ducks.)

Click to expand...

No, no, it's the squirrels that need Ritalin, not the ducks...

I see your point. However, around my front yard, it is the chipmunks that could stand some Ritalin. The squirrels are pretty mellow.

Wayne Larmon

Doug Kerr · Jun 30, 2004

Guerito · Jun 30, 2004

Read what the experts have to say...

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=9203221

Marco_W · Jul 1, 2004

...yes, you are right, I used the timer for both shots

PaulyOly said:
that you used the timer or remote for the shot without MLU or both
for that matter? I've used mirror lock up a few times and find it
useful, especially for 400mm shots where my subject isn't moving
much.

--
http://www.pbase.com/paulyoly/root

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