I tend to agree with Thom Hogan’s assessment on failure or success.
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I'll take a crack at it. In all fairness, Nikon never said they'd be making announcements. Releases, developments or otherwise. I'm disappointed too, but once again it was 100% internet speculation, weak rumors, and pseudo insiders that said something might be coming as early as this CES show. Nikon didn't. Can't be mad at Nikon, per se, because they never said anything was coming this week. That said, we're all eagerly awaiting 3rd gen announcements since they are overdue and we're all curious what trickles down from the Z9.
I think you answered my question.
I like Thom but I think he is laughably myopic on this. Nikon is going to get a big, central table to show off camera gear? At a consumer electronics show? The average consumer has left cameras behind. They believe their phone is good enough. His conclusions are outright wrong. Nikon may announce 2 lenses. They might announce some camera upgrades. That would only be coincidence. This show is not the finish line and show lie center for camera gear. The press release says so. It’s about this game, and robot vision and a other tech. Not cameras.
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I've already done the first gen and second gen upgrade and will not be doing a 3rd gen upgrade while waiting for the lenses I need.
I’ve got a Z6 and Z9. I’m interested in getting a Z6III to better match the video abilities of the Z9. 10 bit internal at a minimum. And some of the Z9 AF goodness tricked down. I have the lenses I “need” at the moment
Okay, so what is Nikon's Consumer Electronic (non-camera/lens) technology; which would justify Nikon getting "a big, central table to show off"?
With Nikon, when you take away cameras and lens, you get consumer things like binoculars and rifle scopes. Both can have electronics, but neither is electronic-centric. And neither would justify "a big, central table".
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I've been saying since May/June that there is no chance Nikon will put out a new body till mid 2023, maybe later in the year. No chance it will be anything like a Z9 or cheaper Z9 ish body that everyone has been boasting about. They just aren't going to do anything to slow the gravy train down that is the Z9 sales.How about this announcement? CES is going to be a big dud for Nikon cameras once again. Nothing noteworthy since the Z9 over a year ago? Wow. I’m amazed they managed to do so little. They released some great lenses in the past year and absolutely nothing other than the Z9 to use them with. The joke is on me for thinking they actually had a viable alternative to the Z9 at the ready. Holy smokes.Starting with the Panasonic Lumix S5 II: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-s5-ii-dc-s5-iix-initial-review
You should be able to see Panasonic ads on the margins of DPReview now. And I promptly received a pre-order e-mail from B&H.
Expect many other announcements throughout the day, January 4.
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“Not only are we not there yet, kids. But Dad has lost the map, I have no phone reception, my GPS is broke, and our compass is spinning like we’re in the Bermuda Triangle. It ain’t looking good.”
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chambeshi
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This is true for me, at least. I have 200-500, and was eagerly looking for 200-600, basically for faster AF for BIF. Zoom was essential to me as i use this lens for wildlife, both for birds and large animals.
But the wait for the 200-600 have changed my thoughts. Now i plan to keep my 200-500 for the large animals, and use the 400mm f/4.5 + TC1.4 for birding, as the later setup is lighter and surely has faster AF than 200-600, more suitable for BIF.
Berend Botje
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Yes, we are going home, kids! We may try again another day. Just suck it up.
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vtpeters
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CES is about to start and the only new products Nikon is announcing are the Z 85mm f/1.2 S and the Z 26mm f/2.8 pancake.
No Z camera this time?
Maybe at CP+ (February 23 - 26, 2023)?
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No Z camera this time?
Maybe at CP+ (February 23 - 26, 2023)?
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Quote: " CES is a Failure if……all we get is a couple of new Nikkor Z lenses"
(https://www.zsystemuser.com/nikon-z-system-news-and/what-will-nikon-introduce.html)
Actually, it's not even that, we only got development announcements..
One can hope..
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vtpeters
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Or they could announce a new camera regardless of any consumer electronics show or photography show anywhere in the world, like they've done in the past.
Nikon may yet surprise us...
stratman1976
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Seriously? Why be so obsessed? When the gear comes, it comes. Seems like a waste of time to me.
Well, easy isn't it, we invest lots of $ in our hobby, then somebody moves the goalposts and tells us mirrorless is the next best thing, it works much better etc etc, press agrees, influencers influence etc, so you sell up your old stuff and buy into it. Then you find that a) it's not working either like you were told or as well as the competition can seemingly do and b) the lenses you were told coming are still not here 3 years later or whatever..
The problem is that if everybody waited until everything was available for them lenswise (ignoring the FTZ, obviously..) before moving into the system, Nikon would be bankrupt by now as DSLR sales would have stopped (Osborne effect..) and everybody would be waiting for the complete set of lenses to be available. (still waiting..).
Tricky balancing act for a "smaller" company like Nikon huh! ;-)
I think Nikon have managed it pretty well, but it's impossible to be or do everything for everybody. If the Z9 had not yet come out I think many more would have left already, the latest long lenses and the Z9 have convinced enough people that Nikon can (of course..) do it right eventually..
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stratman1976
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it will be, eventually. Nothing wrong with the good ol DSLR.
Well that’s on you. Maybe you shouldn’t believe everything you read on the internet. People tend to get mixed up in the ‘new is better’ hype and have a fear of being left behind. I tested the Z’s out and decided they’re not for me yet and kept my D850’s. No one told you to sell everything, Nikon made it possible to use all G lenses with full functionality.
Fortunately, there’s no “everyone” or “no one” in marketing. There’s innovators, early adopters, early majority, late majority and the laggers. This is how it is with all electronics. just look at the transition from petrol to electric cars, it’s a gradual process. There will always be individuals for whom it will go too slow, too fast, too expensive, whatever.
how do you know? Let’s not forget that the population on this forum are hardly a representative for all photographers. The gear obsessed tend to be over represented here ;-) I see lots of pro’s still kicking their DSLR’s.
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