D200 and soft images.

Because of its high resolution sensor, it's more prone to camera shake, and will reveal all of the defects in poorly designed lenses.
I don't buy this argument. It would be true IF you took advantage
of the D200's higher resolution by viewing/enlarging your images
that much larger. Lower resolution would only hide camera shake if
it was very low.
Thom Hogan wrote a post that explained the technical reasons why
high res cameras are more susceptible to camera shake, Murray. I'm
sorry but I can't seem to find it.
I always wonder why we "need" someone else to tell us what we can find by our own experiences? Before I got my D200 I was concerned from all the posts I read about issues with increased camera shake, etc.... Not true from MY OWN EXPERIENCE... I have had no issues (yet) with unexpected camera shake after using the D200 myself. YMMV.
 
Unless one is viewing at 100% magnification, there will be no difference of camera's susceptibiity to camera shake. At least that's what I have experience after moving to D2X from D70.
Perhaps your technique was already impeccable. In my case, my yield dropped significantly when I moved from the d70 to the d200, and I had to refocus on technique before it recovered. In light of my experience, Thom's explanation made sense, pointing out why the same amount of shake would affect the high resolution camera more significantly. I'm sure if you read it, it would make sense to you, Pradipta.

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Mark53, I fully agree. I too have no camera shake problems with my D200 and my one and only lens: Nikkor 18-200 VR.

Certainly no more than with my previous digital cameras — Fuji S602 and Nikon Coolpix 8800.

Pieter.
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It's a treat to find you over here! When did you get into the dslr
end of things? I see some Paddy's Day pics with the d200, so it
must be several months.
Thanks Frank! I picked up the new camera about a week or so before St. Pat's so considering the weather we were having at the time those were pretty much my first foray out with it. Using the new camera was was quite a different experience than in previous years! :)
So how do you like lugging around the heavy gear, and working
without DOF?
So far it's a bit of a mixed blessing but no complaints. The one thing I miss most is the little Gitzo tripod that I could just toss into a day pack and forget about until I actually needed it. Now it's back to having no question that I've got a tripod in tow, but I'm learning to live with that.

Between the camera, tripod, head, two SB-800's, an SB-600 and various accessories, my budget is pretty much tapped out for now so I'm going to have to wait a little bit longer before satisfying any lens lust but I'm still having plenty of fun just getting to know the camera in the meantime.

Take care!!

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I appreciate your responses guy's and I am guessing that I am just being overly paranoid.

It seems as thought there have been some issues with the initial release of the DSLR and I suppose that has me somewhat gun shy, but I also read and see many positve things regarding the D200. I definatly like the feel of the camera in my hand as compared to the Canon offerings, but I know that is somewhat subjective.
Thanks again for your time and word's.

Lon
 
I appreciate your responses guy's and I am guessing that I am just
being overly paranoid.
It seems as thought there have been some issues with the initial
release of the DSLR and I suppose that has me somewhat gun shy, but
I also read and see many positve things regarding the D200. I
definatly like the feel of the camera in my hand as compared to the
Canon offerings, but I know that is somewhat subjective.
Thanks again for your time and word's.

Lon
Lon, here are 2 images I shot this past weekend with my 70-200VR. The first was shot at 1/90 @ f/5 (VR on), the second at 1/640 @ f/5. Shot in RAW, some USM applied in NC 4.4, converted to jpeg. The vertical image is a crop of a landscape formatted image.



 
I can handheld my D2Hs with one hand and get sharp images :)

That's one major advantage with low-res cameras.
 
The relevant part of Ron's post seems to be

"This [higher resolution] increases the number of steps in the transitional regions between sharp and unsharp"

But I'm not sure what he's getting at there.If he's saying it increases the number of levels of sharpness I guess I'd go along, but for a given viewing (down-)size, I still don't see how more resolution in the original reduces sharpness.
 
I am about ready to try out a new D200, but I have a question. It
seems as thought I see a fair amount of threads here about soft
images. Often advice is given suggestion that it may be the
photographers technique causing this. My question is this. Is it
really that hard to get a good sharp picture while hand holding the
D200? I have some digital experience using a Olympus 2100 and
before that a Minolta X700 film camera. I have always thought I
held them pretty steady.
Anywasy I would appreciate your suggestions.

Thanks,
Lon
They are not soft but need the right kind of USM and good lenses.



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I've been practicing the camera holding technique ever since I got
my 1st SLR. I have to say, the slowest I can go down to is 1/30.
But I met a wedding photographer the other day. He told me he could
go lower than that. So, I am wondering how I improve my camera
holding techniques. (I am coffee drinker also)
Any inputs are welcome.
Prozac? :-)

You've got to learn to brace your arms on your body, and then keep your body steady and hold your breath while squeezing (not slamming) the shutter button.

Or just get a monopod.

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I think alot of the complaining of softness was more to do with the enlargement on screen as compared to a 6 megapixel file, i noticed this when i moved up from my d70 - d200, if you zoom in to 100% with both files the D200 is quite a bit bigger, so if you zoom out one, it looks identical to the D70 file and just as sharp. It seems at 100% the D200 file is zoomed in just past its point of critical sharpness especially on a 19" LCD. At 100% its like viewing a 24" x 36" poster from 18" away. I personally have found the D200 very sharp approaching the 5D as long as you have everything perfect.

http://www.pbase.com/stusteelhead
 
I'm not sure about the camera holding techniques, or what ever ... I find that shooting at 1/30 gives me softer images with the D200, and that the lens has allot to do with it as well ... I took the 10-20mm off and got myself a 50mm 1.8 nikkor. I still get soft images at low shutter speeds hand held and that’s to be expected, but outdoors, or with adequate lighting seems to be pretty good.

these are just a couple test shots, no action at all, but hand held, seem pretty sharp to me:





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I think alot of the complaining of softness was more to do with the
enlargement on screen as compared to a 6 megapixel file, i noticed
this when i moved up from my d70 - d200, if you zoom in to 100%
with both files the D200 is quite a bit bigger, so if you zoom out
one, it looks identical to the D70 file and just as sharp. It
seems at 100% the D200 file is zoomed in just past its point of
critical sharpness especially on a 19" LCD. At 100% its like
viewing a 24" x 36" poster from 18" away. I personally have found
the D200 very sharp approaching the 5D as long as you have
everything perfect.

http://www.pbase.com/stusteelhead
That should not be the case, it should be just as sharp at 100%, because that is the point of critical sharpness ( as you put it ) that’s looking at the image at its real size. the pics I post above are 100% crop and they are sharper then most of my D70s pics ... what do you think ...

the pic of the cat is amazing. that is a perfect example. I'd like to know the lens and the detailed settings on that one.

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http://www.imagesofworlds.com/
 
I think alot of the complaining of softness was more to do with the
enlargement on screen as compared to a 6 megapixel file, i noticed
this when i moved up from my d70 - d200, if you zoom in to 100%
with both files the D200 is quite a bit bigger, so if you zoom out
one, it looks identical to the D70 file and just as sharp. It
seems at 100% the D200 file is zoomed in just past its point of
critical sharpness especially on a 19" LCD. At 100% its like
viewing a 24" x 36" poster from 18" away. I personally have found
the D200 very sharp approaching the 5D as long as you have
everything perfect.

http://www.pbase.com/stusteelhead
That should not be the case, it should be just as sharp at 100%,
because that is the point of critical sharpness ( as you put it )
that’s looking at the image at its real size. the pics I post above
are 100% crop and they are sharper then most of my D70s pics ...
what do you think ...

the pic of the cat is amazing. that is a perfect example. I'd like
to know the lens and the detailed settings on that one.

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léo ...



http://www.imagesofworlds.com/
sorry when I say 100% crops that is not necessarily true, cause they are sized down ... ok here is a true 100% crop:



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http://www.imagesofworlds.com/
 
I think alot of the complaining of softness was more to do with the
enlargement on screen as compared to a 6 megapixel file, i noticed
this when i moved up from my d70 - d200, if you zoom in to 100%
with both files the D200 is quite a bit bigger, so if you zoom out
one, it looks identical to the D70 file and just as sharp. It
seems at 100% the D200 file is zoomed in just past its point of
critical sharpness especially on a 19" LCD. At 100% its like
viewing a 24" x 36" poster from 18" away. I personally have found
the D200 very sharp approaching the 5D as long as you have
everything perfect.

http://www.pbase.com/stusteelhead
That should not be the case, it should be just as sharp at 100%,
because that is the point of critical sharpness ( as you put it )
that’s looking at the image at its real size. the pics I post above
are 100% crop and they are sharper then most of my D70s pics ...
what do you think ...

the pic of the cat is amazing. that is a perfect example. I'd like
to know the lens and the detailed settings on that one.
If you meant my cat it was done with a 70-200 VR at 155 mm, F5.0, 1/1000s, ISO 400, jpeg. Only PP was an USM-action.
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I am about ready to try out a new D200, but I have a question. It
seems as thought I see a fair amount of threads here about soft
images. Often advice is given suggestion that it may be the
photographers technique causing this. My question is this. Is it
really that hard to get a good sharp picture while hand holding the
D200? I have some digital experience using a Olympus 2100 and
before that a Minolta X700 film camera. I have always thought I
held them pretty steady.
Anywasy I would appreciate your suggestions.

Thanks,
Lon
As Ron Reznick pointed out (and Uncle Frank supplied the link to) the higher pixel density will let you more easily see camera shake when you are viewing at 100% size. If images from a less dense sensor and a higher density sensor are printed at the same size, the images will exhibit nearly the same amount of shake.

I find that the added ability to see small amounts of shake when zoomed in to 100% helped me improve my technique.

Basically it isn't something to worry about. It is not hard and it challenges you to do even better.
 

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