Sigma DP1: YEEESSSSS!!!! Halleluja! Whoopee! etc. etc.

[Albert]

Give me usable ISO1600 and I'll cry tears of joy while waiting in line..

Use AA batteries and I'll giggle tears of laughter..

 

[Helmut Eder]

Agree! In video (640x480) there is no resolution loss using digital zoom.

I think you'd get about 4x out of it

-Helmut

 

[Federico Calboli]

A compact camera with a high-quality prime lens, an APS-C sensor,
and Foveon to boot? PAH-TAY!

This is the one I've been waiting for, for, like, YEARS. Thank
you Sigma! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

me does a little jig in the corner, or perhaps a hornpipe

I could join you (with a bass drum) if the lens were 35mm equivalent F2. I know, I know, I'm difficult...

Fede

--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fedster/

 

[Roland Karlsson]

--
Roland
http://klotjohan.mine.nu/~roland/

 

[dr.noise]

Agree! In video (640x480) there is no resolution loss using
digital zoom.

This is true if they are grabbing the full-sized pic and then zooming to 640*480, but I'm afraid 30fps rate is only achievable using 640*480 native mode with binning. So there is no place to zoom in.

 

[Hugo Angel]

--
Take care,
Jorgen

Probere necesse est.....

I hope the DP1 will have exceptional image quality - also without a viewfinder.

NB: (I hope you won't mind): every time I see your "Probere" I have a fastidious itching - the latin word is actually Probare !!!
--
hugo-A48

 

[D_Bug]

While the idea of a P&S with the SD14's sensor seems exiting, I wonder why didn't they do it with the SD10's sensor? It might have been cheaper probably, and would have been good enough for a P&S (especially if a respectable zoom was added). May be they want to recover the development costs of SD14's sensor faster? Any thoughts?

Or even a 4/3rd sensor with X3 technology would probably make for smaller lenses, if they want to make a lighter/smaller P&S(?).

Thanx
D_Bug.

A compact camera with a high-quality prime lens, an APS-C sensor,
and Foveon to boot? PAH-TAY!

This is the one I've been waiting for, for, like, YEARS. Thank
you Sigma! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

me does a little jig in the corner, or perhaps a hornpipe

Petteri

PS. I guess this sort of answers your question about the target
market.
PPS. Oh, if it turns out to be a squib, I'll be... disappointed.
--
[ http://www.prime-junta.net/ ]
[ http://p-on-p.blogspot.com/ ]

 

[jack1000]

While the idea of a P&S with the SD14's sensor seems exiting, I
wonder why didn't they do it with the SD10's sensor? It might have

sensor wouldn't do video out? (I don't know, I'm guessing.)

jack

 

[markspan]

more like "sensor is not being made anymore"

 

[D_Bug]

Quite possible, so is the SD14 video capable?

But for the profile of people who would possible use this new Sigma P&S, I am guessing that video might not be a key feature.

Thanx for your thoughts
D_Bug.

While the idea of a P&S with the SD14's sensor seems exiting, I
wonder why didn't they do it with the SD10's sensor? It might have

sensor wouldn't do video out? (I don't know, I'm guessing.)

jack

 

[Jorgen E]

NB: (I hope you won't mind): every time I see your "Probere" I have
a fastidious itching - the latin word is actually Probare !!!

I don't mind, but I think I'm right here...
But, so are you -- it depends on how you use the verb.

("Probere necesse est" is also the official motto for one of the Swedish Air Force's test establishments. Say what you want about the military, but they usually get their Latin mottos right... ).

prob.ere V 1 1 PRES PASSIVE SUB 2 S
probo, probare, probavi, probatus V TRANS [XXXAO]

approve (of), esteem/commend/recommend/certify; give assent/approval/sanction;
let; show to be real/true; examine/test/try/prove/demonstrate; get accepted;

--
Take care,
Jorgen

Probere necesse est.....

 

[Roland Karlsson]

Quite possible, so is the SD14 video capable?

There is a video symbol at the knob on top of the camera.

--
Roland
http://klotjohan.mine.nu/~roland/

 

[Roland Karlsson]

This is true if they are grabbing the full-sized pic and then
zooming to 640*480, but I'm afraid 30fps rate is only achievable
using 640*480 native mode with binning. So there is no place to
zoom in.

A slower cropped mode for tele effects?

--
Roland
http://klotjohan.mine.nu/~roland/

 

[Frits Thomsen]

Quite possible, so is the SD14 video capable?

There is a video symbol at the knob on top of the camera.

And a loudspeaker and a microfone.....

--
Roland
http://klotjohan.mine.nu/~roland/

--
Frits Thomsen
See my pictures at
http://www.pbase.com/yoicz

 

[dr.noise]

A slower cropped mode for tele effects?

Ok, let's just wait. At least, there is no need to use digital zoom if one doesn't want it.

I think I won't need a camcorder if this thing makes 640*480*3 video. The resolution must be comparable to HDTV.

 

[Archiver]

There is a video symbol at the knob on top of the camera.

And a loudspeaker and a microfone.....

I wonder what kind of video mode the DP1 will have, and what the image quality will be like. Will it only be a 15fps 'add on' function, or a decent 640x480 30fps mode like the Canon S3IS? If it used mpeg-4 that would be really amazing. Mpeg-4 video with a 28mm lens, that would be just fabulous, as long as the movie ran for the capacity of the card.

I am assuming that the DP1 uses SD cards. If not, then we're probably back to 15fps. I have never seen a CF-card camera that does 30fps movies.

--
Archiver - Recording the sights and sounds of life
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archiver/

 

[Peter G]

While the idea of a P&S with the SD14's sensor seems exiting, I
wonder why didn't they do it with the SD10's sensor? It might have
been cheaper probably, and would have been good enough for a P&S
(especially if a respectable zoom was added). May be they want to
recover the development costs of SD14's sensor faster? Any thoughts?

Both sensor are the same size so there is no real price advantage to using an SD10 sensor. If anything it would be more expensive to build 2 similar sensors rather than just build one. It certainly doesn't offer a competetive advantage to use the older sensor design.

 

[Peter G]

So 90% of compact cameras in existence are also "useless".

Strange, I take pictures just fine with every single camera I've used.

If I look at Canon/Nikon/Sony etc. Only the cheapo bottom end are missing viewfinders.

 

[Ryan Li]

So 90% of compact cameras in existence are also "useless".

Strange, I take pictures just fine with every single camera I've used.

If I look at Canon/Nikon/Sony etc. Only the cheapo bottom end are
missing viewfinders.

The Panasonic LX2 is not a cheapo bottom end camera. The Fuji F30 is not a cheapo bottom end camera. Neither have viewfinders. Big deal.

In any case, the vast majority of compact cameras are for the mass market and not top end cameras, probably what you might describe as "cheapo bottom end", so my point still stands (although admittedly 90% was probably an exaggeration): cameras without viewfinders are the norm.

...Still, I concede it would have been nice for Sigma to have included a viewfinder, just to make everybody happy, especially given that it's clearly not a bottom-end camera. For me personally, it would be icing on the cake rather than a dealbreaker.

Cheers
Ryan

--
One night in Sofia
http://ryan.li/

 

[Sylvain G]

Here's one reason why perhaps.

You may have noticed this camera has movie mode (WOW - no more
excuses for SLR's like the SD14 not to have this!)

If I'm not mistaked, that's wrong. On a SLR, you focus through the lense and when you take the shot, the mirror is lifted up so the sensor can be exposed by shutter activation, right? So taking a movie with a SLR would be like closing your viewfinder so that the sensor is continually exposed?