YarcPlus rocks!!

[Phred]

For $35 it is an absolute steal!!

Indeed! I’ve been a Yarc user since the beginning. When YarcPlus hit the scene I wasn’t convinced. Well now I couldn’t live without YarcPlus:

My workflow:

Copy the raw images into my master image directory
Fire up YarcPlus
Step through each image examining the thumbs
Uncheck those that are obviously garbage
Rotate the thumb – that way all other actions will also be rotated
Do one pass extracting jpegs (embedded) and exif/log info – takes seconds
Another pass extracting 16 bit tiffs – as shot
All into “Converted Below”

Depending on how impatient I’m feeling as the raw capture is running I’ll review the extracted jpegs and make a short list of those images I’ll want to work on in Photoshop. By the time I’m though making the list, the first tiff on the list will most likely have been created so on to Photoshop.

The image master directory and the “Converted Below” get burnt to CDs.

If I see an image that needs some color balance, raw tweaking, I’ll fire up YarcPlus and preview what different color balances might look like, or try a picked color.

Anyway, love YarcPlus.

Cheers,
Phred

 

[Hugo So]

I download the evaluation package and do a conversion for 5 raw files as normal to just jpeg 8 bit. I was surprised when I viewed the converted images back in Zoombrowser. They are darK!!!! 4-5 ev under!!, compared with the canon converter. Shall I use different browser or shall I not convert jpeg with yarcplus?

Besides, I just noted different interface against canon converter, please tell me how it rocks? I am too new to digital imaging! But, I am a normal consumer.

I have always used Breezebrowser in the past, but this morning I
purchased YarcPlus to use with my EOS 1D.

The new veiwing options for the 1D in Yarc are way better than the
twain driver, & the arf seems to work real well also.

If you haven't tried this program yet, check it out:

http://www.yarcplus.com/

For $35 it is an absolute steal!!

-John

--
Thanks to All
Newbie to Photography
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

 

[Daniel Lauring]

Did you get linear mixed up with non-linear? Linear will be very dark by comparison until proper ICC profile is applied.

Danny

Besides, I just noted different interface against canon converter,
please tell me how it rocks? I am too new to digital imaging! But,
I am a normal consumer.

I have always used Breezebrowser in the past, but this morning I
purchased YarcPlus to use with my EOS 1D.

The new veiwing options for the 1D in Yarc are way better than the
twain driver, & the arf seems to work real well also.

If you haven't tried this program yet, check it out:

http://www.yarcplus.com/

For $35 it is an absolute steal!!

-John

--
Thanks to All
Newbie to Photography
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

 

[Hugo So]

It reads "8-bit JPEG Non-Linear Conversion" in the Output Format option box. What else shall i set to make sure that it is non-linear?

Danny

Besides, I just noted different interface against canon converter,
please tell me how it rocks? I am too new to digital imaging! But,
I am a normal consumer.

I have always used Breezebrowser in the past, but this morning I
purchased YarcPlus to use with my EOS 1D.

The new veiwing options for the 1D in Yarc are way better than the
twain driver, & the arf seems to work real well also.

If you haven't tried this program yet, check it out:

http://www.yarcplus.com/

For $35 it is an absolute steal!!

-John

--
Thanks to All
Newbie to Photography
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

--
Thanks to All
Newbie to Photography
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

 

[Jim C.]

Well if Don likes it, I guess I going to have to come up with some extra bucks and try it out.....It sounds excellent.

Jim C.

Within the next few weeks, we'll probably have several tools (YP,
BB, Scott, etc.) to use with Raw files from 1D, D60, etc., and each
will have its own style in terms of interface, workflow, etc.

For my purposes, what makes YarcPlus unique, and desireable, is
ARF. I started playing around with this with D30 images several
months ago, and ended up concluding that it did in fact remove
artifactual pixels (which D30 users have noted from the very
beginning), resulting in a cleaner image file to edit.

I've had my 1D about 2 weeks now, and have taken some time to do
some reasonably controlled testing of ARF in M1 and M2 mode with
images at ISO 200, 1600 and 3200. I converted each (to 16-bit TIF)
without ARF, and with M1 and M2 modes of ARF. I examined the
images resulting without any editing, and again when appropriate
Unsharp Mask was applied to each. I used images made with the
Canon 100/f2.8 USM Macro at f/4, mounted on a solid tripod.

My tentative conclusion is that ARF in M2 mode is desireable for
converting 1D images of all ISO's. Frankly, that surprised me.
The difference at higher ISO is so dramatic that it might be more
appropriately called a noise reduction filter. The resulting
images are dramatically less "noisy."

Prior to applying any Unsharp Mask, the "ARF'd" files appear to
contain less detail, sharpness, contrast. But if I then applied
USM, the end result was just as detailed and sharp, but with
considerably less noise. I was also surprised that I could apply a
fair amount more USM than I usually do on the ARF'd images, and
avoid an 'over-sharpened' appearance. Presumably, it's because the
image is much 'cleaner' to begin with.

I posted a similar message at Galbraith's forum, asking for others
to make similar comparisons, and would make the same request here.
I'd genuinely be interested in what others find with similar
comparisons.

Don
http://www.dlcphotography.net

 

[MichaelT]

Thanks to all for the overwhelming support and encouragement that the Canon community has given to YarcPlus.

When Bruce (Henderson) first came out with Yarc over a year ago, it was a true breakthrough and changed the way that I (and many others) was able to use the Canon RAW format. In fact until Yarc (Classic) I didn't shoot RAW because it was just to much of a PITA.

So now Bruce and I have created YarcPlus, not to revolutionize the RAW workflow (there are other good tools), but to add another option...another point of view to the mix.

Although some of what we have done and will do IS revolutionary, such as ARF, and other tools that will be coming.

For example, while ARF was designed to optimze D30 images, it works every bit as well, and in many cases, even better on D60 and 1D picture files. The reason is that although ARF was designed around the D30, it was created to respond to images of all shapes and sizes. So ARF is by design, fully compatable with these new file "formats".

So we keep Bruce locked in the lab doing the image science, and I am out here with you guys (and girls) optimizing the UI and functionality

Just a few notes about some of what has been posted here...

There are no immediate plans for a Mac version. As much as we would like to do it, there is simply not the time for us to go there, and it would take away from the continuation of the evolution of YarcPlus. So at least for now, we will move forward enhancing the Windows version.

We do not like to talk about our future work. For many reasons, but mostly so that promises that cannot be met are not made. So for the record we are offcially working on...

--Thumbnail views (very soon)
--Additoonal Post Processing
--Expansion of ARF to all output formats
--ARF for Linear

Also for the record...we are working on a lot other major enhancements >

Thanks again to all for the great support and encouragement. We hope to continue to evolve YarcPlus to meet and exceed your needs and expectations.

From Bruce and myself...our sincere thanks...

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

 

[MichaelT]

I download the evaluation package and do a conversion for 5 raw
files as normal to just jpeg 8 bit. I was surprised when I viewed
the converted images back in Zoombrowser. They are darK!!!! 4-5
ev under!!, compared with the canon converte

Hugo,

There is no reason (except for linear as Daniel pointed out) that a JPEG conversion should be dark. While this may not have anything to do with it, please view the JPEG in something else other than ZoomB. Just to make sure that the JPEG is wrong. Please email me a small JPEG file that exhibits this behavior. There is nothing in YarcPlus that would cause this and and our users make JPEG conversions all the time. So please email to me and we will figure out wht is going on.

[email protected]

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

 

[Marco]

Don, I agree completely.

ARF is an excellent technology and I can see the difference on my 1D even at 200 ISO, IMO without ANY loss of details. I'm investigating into higher ISOs and USM applying, but for now I can see that ARF makes a cleaner image to start from.

I have only a little question. I see that ARF 1 is much faster than ARF 2 (though ARF 2 is just a little better). On my P-III 1GHz 512 Mb Ram machine running Win2k I can convert a Raw file in the following times:

Tiff 16bit

ARF Off 12 sec
ARF 1 15 sec
ARF 2 22 sec

Tiff 8bit

ARF Off 6 sec
ARF 1 9 sec
ARF 2 12 sec

Jpeg 5 sec

------------------------------------

Rotate adds a negligible time of about 0,5 sec

Has anyone seen the same difference from ARF-1 and ARF-2 ?

Thanks
Marco

 

[DonCohen]

Don, I agree completely.
ARF is an excellent technology and I can see the difference on my
1D even at 200 ISO, IMO without ANY loss of details. I'm
investigating into higher ISOs and USM applying, but for now I can
see that ARF makes a cleaner image to start from.

I was also surpsied at the difference even at ISO 200 as well. FWIW, at this point I use M2 for all images, regardless of ISO. The only difference I see is that M2 adds just a tweak of sharpness, with no downside.

I have only a little question. I see that ARF 1 is much faster than
ARF 2 (though ARF 2 is just a little better). On my P-III 1GHz 512
Mb Ram machine running Win2k I can convert a Raw file in the
following times:

I bought a new system a few months ago, 2.2 GHz P-4, 1024 mb RAM, and I've been really happy with it. I've only timed 16-bit Conversions, since that's all I really care about:

Tiff 16bit

ARF Off 12 sec

7.5 sec

ARF 1 15 sec

8.4 sec

ARF 2 22 sec

13.2 sec

M1 and M2 do extra processing, with M2 doing more, so that's where the added time comes in.

All of this is dramatically better than the 40-45 seconds I had converting D30 files with my prior 400 MHz P-2, 256 mb RAM system!

Don
http://www.dlcphotography.net

 

[Hugo So]

I download the evaluation package and do a conversion for 5 raw
files as normal to just jpeg 8 bit. I was surprised when I viewed
the converted images back in Zoombrowser. They are darK!!!! 4-5
ev under!!, compared with the canon converte

Thanks michael for your quick response. I sent both the raw and the converted file for your reference. Please check out what I have done wrong.

Hugo,

There is no reason (except for linear as Daniel pointed out) that a
JPEG conversion should be dark. While this may not have anything to
do with it, please view the JPEG in something else other than
ZoomB. Just to make sure that the JPEG is wrong. Please email me a
small JPEG file that exhibits this behavior. There is nothing in
YarcPlus that would cause this and and our users make JPEG
conversions all the time. So please email to me and we will figure
out wht is going on.

[email protected]

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

--
Thanks to All

D60 helps me to keep the best moments of my family. After trying hundreds of shots I realised that the D60 does not underexpose. It is the weighted metering effect. We are making friend now and it no more lets me down.
Besides, I love the 28-135 IS lens.
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

 

[MichaelT]

Don, I agree completely.
ARF is an excellent technology and I can see the difference on my
1D even at 200 ISO, IMO without ANY loss of details. I'm
investigating into higher ISOs and USM applying, but for now I can
see that ARF makes a cleaner image to start from.
I have only a little question. I see that ARF 1 is much faster than
ARF 2 (though ARF 2 is just a little better). On my P-III 1GHz 512
Mb Ram machine running Win2k I can convert a Raw file in the
following times:

Tiff 16bit

ARF Off 12 sec
ARF 1 15 sec
ARF 2 22 sec

Tiff 8bit

ARF Off 6 sec
ARF 1 9 sec
ARF 2 12 sec

Jpeg 5 sec

------------------------------------

Rotate adds a negligible time of about 0,5 sec

Has anyone seen the same difference from ARF-1 and ARF-2 ?

Thanks
Marco

Marco,

ARF2 does additional processing over ARF1 and it is normal for it to take more time.

So to be clear, when you use ARF2 is like running ARF1 PLUS an addtional algorithm.

We will be updating ARF in the future and we plan to investigate speed optimization.

So your timings look perfectly normal to me..

Enjoy!

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

 

[Hugo So]

Oh! big file. I sent again in two mails. Please be patiant when receiving.

Thanks al lot for helping me newbie.

I download the evaluation package and do a conversion for 5 raw
files as normal to just jpeg 8 bit. I was surprised when I viewed
the converted images back in Zoombrowser. They are darK!!!! 4-5
ev under!!, compared with the canon converte

Thanks michael for your quick response. I sent both the raw and
the converted file for your reference. Please check out what I
have done wrong.

Hugo,

There is no reason (except for linear as Daniel pointed out) that a
JPEG conversion should be dark. While this may not have anything to
do with it, please view the JPEG in something else other than
ZoomB. Just to make sure that the JPEG is wrong. Please email me a
small JPEG file that exhibits this behavior. There is nothing in
YarcPlus that would cause this and and our users make JPEG
conversions all the time. So please email to me and we will figure
out wht is going on.

[email protected]

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

--
Thanks to All
D60 helps me to keep the best moments of my family. After trying
hundreds of shots I realised that the D60 does not underexpose. It
is the weighted metering effect. We are making friend now and it
no more lets me down.
Besides, I love the 28-135 IS lens.
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

--
Thanks to All

D60 helps me to keep the best moments of my family. After trying hundreds of shots I realised that the D60 does not underexpose. It is the weighted metering effect. We are making friend now and it no more lets me down.
Besides, I love the 28-135 IS lens.
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

 

[WalterK]

Well, you all convinced me!. I now have a registered version of YarcPlus. It's a shame that Canon's converter misses the boat.

Thanks to all for the overwhelming support and encouragement that
the Canon community has given to YarcPlus.

When Bruce (Henderson) first came out with Yarc over a year ago, it
was a true breakthrough and changed the way that I (and many
others) was able to use the Canon RAW format. In fact until Yarc
(Classic) I didn't shoot RAW because it was just to much of a PITA.

So now Bruce and I have created YarcPlus, not to revolutionize the
RAW workflow (there are other good tools), but to add another
option...another point of view to the mix.

Although some of what we have done and will do IS revolutionary,
such as ARF, and other tools that will be coming.

For example, while ARF was designed to optimze D30 images, it works
every bit as well, and in many cases, even better on D60 and 1D
picture files. The reason is that although ARF was designed around
the D30, it was created to respond to images of all shapes and
sizes. So ARF is by design, fully compatable with these new file
"formats".

So we keep Bruce locked in the lab doing the image science, and I
am out here with you guys (and girls) optimizing the UI and
functionality

Just a few notes about some of what has been posted here...

There are no immediate plans for a Mac version. As much as we would
like to do it, there is simply not the time for us to go there, and
it would take away from the continuation of the evolution of
YarcPlus. So at least for now, we will move forward enhancing the
Windows version.

We do not like to talk about our future work. For many reasons, but
mostly so that promises that cannot be met are not made. So for the
record we are offcially working on...

--Thumbnail views (very soon)
--Additoonal Post Processing
--Expansion of ARF to all output formats
--ARF for Linear

Also for the record...we are working on a lot other major
enhancements >

Thanks again to all for the great support and encouragement. We
hope to continue to evolve YarcPlus to meet and exceed your needs
and expectations.

From Bruce and myself...our sincere thanks...

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

--
Walter K

 

[Hugo So]

Viewed in PS LE, still dark. I noted that the converted file name has "L8_a". Is it related.

Have anyone view yarcplus converted file with zoombrowser before? What shall I set besides getting the 8-bit JPEG setting before conversion?

Please. I shall learn more.

I download the evaluation package and do a conversion for 5 raw
files as normal to just jpeg 8 bit. I was surprised when I viewed
the converted images back in Zoombrowser. They are darK!!!! 4-5
ev under!!, compared with the canon converte

Hugo,

There is no reason (except for linear as Daniel pointed out) that a
JPEG conversion should be dark. While this may not have anything to
do with it, please view the JPEG in something else other than
ZoomB. Just to make sure that the JPEG is wrong. Please email me a
small JPEG file that exhibits this behavior. There is nothing in
YarcPlus that would cause this and and our users make JPEG
conversions all the time. So please email to me and we will figure
out wht is going on.

[email protected]

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

--
Thanks to All

D60 helps me to keep the best moments of my family. After trying hundreds of shots I realised that the D60 does not underexpose. It is the weighted metering effect. We are making friend now and it no more lets me down.
Besides, I love the 28-135 IS lens.
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

 

[Hugo So]

Several times (more than 10 on different settings), I tried but I cannot get a normal conversion file. May be i have done something stupidly as everyone seems to be very satisfied with it..... yeah, no reason for darkness as every one is doing fine.

But how come it...

Thanks to all for the overwhelming support and encouragement that
the Canon community has given to YarcPlus.

When Bruce (Henderson) first came out with Yarc over a year ago, it
was a true breakthrough and changed the way that I (and many
others) was able to use the Canon RAW format. In fact until Yarc
(Classic) I didn't shoot RAW because it was just to much of a PITA.

So now Bruce and I have created YarcPlus, not to revolutionize the
RAW workflow (there are other good tools), but to add another
option...another point of view to the mix.

Although some of what we have done and will do IS revolutionary,
such as ARF, and other tools that will be coming.

For example, while ARF was designed to optimze D30 images, it works
every bit as well, and in many cases, even better on D60 and 1D
picture files. The reason is that although ARF was designed around
the D30, it was created to respond to images of all shapes and
sizes. So ARF is by design, fully compatable with these new file
"formats".

So we keep Bruce locked in the lab doing the image science, and I
am out here with you guys (and girls) optimizing the UI and
functionality

Just a few notes about some of what has been posted here...

There are no immediate plans for a Mac version. As much as we would
like to do it, there is simply not the time for us to go there, and
it would take away from the continuation of the evolution of
YarcPlus. So at least for now, we will move forward enhancing the
Windows version.

We do not like to talk about our future work. For many reasons, but
mostly so that promises that cannot be met are not made. So for the
record we are offcially working on...

--Thumbnail views (very soon)
--Additoonal Post Processing
--Expansion of ARF to all output formats
--ARF for Linear

Also for the record...we are working on a lot other major
enhancements >

Thanks again to all for the great support and encouragement. We
hope to continue to evolve YarcPlus to meet and exceed your needs
and expectations.

From Bruce and myself...our sincere thanks...

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

--
Thanks to All

D60 helps me to keep the best moments of my family. After trying hundreds of shots I realised that the D60 does not underexpose. It is the weighted metering effect. We are making friend now and it no more lets me down.
Besides, I love the 28-135 IS lens.
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

 

[Hugo So]

Also, the conversion preview is very blurry. Is it normal? Is it just for looking at ev and white balance?

But how come it...

Thanks to all for the overwhelming support and encouragement that
the Canon community has given to YarcPlus.

When Bruce (Henderson) first came out with Yarc over a year ago, it
was a true breakthrough and changed the way that I (and many
others) was able to use the Canon RAW format. In fact until Yarc
(Classic) I didn't shoot RAW because it was just to much of a PITA.

So now Bruce and I have created YarcPlus, not to revolutionize the
RAW workflow (there are other good tools), but to add another
option...another point of view to the mix.

Although some of what we have done and will do IS revolutionary,
such as ARF, and other tools that will be coming.

For example, while ARF was designed to optimze D30 images, it works
every bit as well, and in many cases, even better on D60 and 1D
picture files. The reason is that although ARF was designed around
the D30, it was created to respond to images of all shapes and
sizes. So ARF is by design, fully compatable with these new file
"formats".

So we keep Bruce locked in the lab doing the image science, and I
am out here with you guys (and girls) optimizing the UI and
functionality

Just a few notes about some of what has been posted here...

There are no immediate plans for a Mac version. As much as we would
like to do it, there is simply not the time for us to go there, and
it would take away from the continuation of the evolution of
YarcPlus. So at least for now, we will move forward enhancing the
Windows version.

We do not like to talk about our future work. For many reasons, but
mostly so that promises that cannot be met are not made. So for the
record we are offcially working on...

--Thumbnail views (very soon)
--Additoonal Post Processing
--Expansion of ARF to all output formats
--ARF for Linear

Also for the record...we are working on a lot other major
enhancements >

Thanks again to all for the great support and encouragement. We
hope to continue to evolve YarcPlus to meet and exceed your needs
and expectations.

From Bruce and myself...our sincere thanks...

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

--
Thanks to All
D60 helps me to keep the best moments of my family. After trying
hundreds of shots I realised that the D60 does not underexpose. It
is the weighted metering effect. We are making friend now and it
no more lets me down.
Besides, I love the 28-135 IS lens.
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

--
Thanks to All

D60 helps me to keep the best moments of my family. After trying hundreds of shots I realised that the D60 does not underexpose. It is the weighted metering effect. We are making friend now and it no more lets me down.
Besides, I love the 28-135 IS lens.
D60, 50/1.8, 28-135is, 100-400is

 

[MichaelT]

Viewed in PS LE, still dark. I noted that the converted file name
has "L8_a". Is it related.

Hugo,

I have recieved you files and the conversion that you did WAS linear. So maybe you had it set to Linear by mistake.

I have just converted your RAW file to JPEG and sent it to you. Of course it is a perfect Non-Linear conversion. I have also sent you a screen shot of the YarcPlus settings so that you can see excatly how they were set.

I am sure that this should clear up the mystery of the dark files.

Enjoy!

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

 

[John Petter Reinertsen]

Also, the conversion preview is very blurry. Is it normal? Is it
just for looking at ev and white balance?

Please take the time to read the manuals/documentation for your software before starting to ask all kinds of questions.

-John Petter.

 

[MichaelT]

Thanks to all for the overwhelming support and encouragement that
the Canon community has given to YarcPlus.

When Bruce (Henderson) first came out with Yarc over a year ago, it
was a true breakthrough and changed the way that I (and many
others) was able to use the Canon RAW format. In fact until Yarc
(Classic) I didn't shoot RAW because it was just to much of a PITA.

So now Bruce and I have created YarcPlus, not to revolutionize the
RAW workflow (there are other good tools), but to add another
option...another point of view to the mix.

Although some of what we have done and will do IS revolutionary,
such as ARF, and other tools that will be coming.

For example, while ARF was designed to optimze D30 images, it works
every bit as well, and in many cases, even better on D60 and 1D
picture files. The reason is that although ARF was designed around
the D30, it was created to respond to images of all shapes and
sizes. So ARF is by design, fully compatable with these new file
"formats".

So we keep Bruce locked in the lab doing the image science, and I
am out here with you guys (and girls) optimizing the UI and
functionality

Just a few notes about some of what has been posted here...

There are no immediate plans for a Mac version. As much as we would
like to do it, there is simply not the time for us to go there, and
it would take away from the continuation of the evolution of
YarcPlus. So at least for now, we will move forward enhancing the
Windows version.

We do not like to talk about our future work. For many reasons, but
mostly so that promises that cannot be met are not made. So for the
record we are offcially working on...

--Thumbnail views (very soon)
--Additoonal Post Processing
--Expansion of ARF to all output formats
--ARF for Linear

Also for the record...we are working on a lot other major
enhancements >

Thanks again to all for the great support and encouragement. We
hope to continue to evolve YarcPlus to meet and exceed your needs
and expectations.

From Bruce and myself...our sincere thanks...

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

--
Walter K

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com

 

[MichaelT]

Also, the conversion preview is very blurry. Is it normal? Is it
just for looking at ev and white balance?

Hugo,

The conversion preview is not sharp because the Canon SDK makes it that way. They have not responded as to why this is so, and it is this way in all SDK based software.

We will continue to discuss with Canon.

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com