The Macs have a solid base of believers that are not prepared for a
reasonable discussion. One example is this 'pixelbender' guy who is
actually proud of and trying to 'convert' people to the Mac
religion. If he's not paid by Apple he's very scary.
Proud about an expensive tool that he uses? Are you proud of your Camera? Are you open to discussion about your camera and it's pros/cons vs other cameras? Or do you put down anyone as "religious" whenever they talk about such expensive items with any sort of emotional liking? And don't tell me you came up with the "Mac religion" on your own, you pulled that buzz word right from someone elses mouth.
Pixelblender has made well thought out arguments and discussions while providing facts or his person opinion and experience. You on the other hand don't seem to be making "reasonable discussion" but instead are attacking the user and not even the hardware. The OP asked for Apple Hardware OSX and Windows comparisons from users who have used both extensively, he did not ask for your personal opinion of Mac users.
In my view the differences for the average photographer are pretty
minor. The programs work the same and 'cost per performance' of the
Macs is creeping towards Windows. Granted the notebooks look
good&small from the outside but you need loads of external gadgets
when you want to connect to anything.
For a reasonable discussion I'd like some examples, or at least a better definition of "gadets" that one "needs" to connect these other "devices".
Personally my laptop is plug and play with just about everything known to man, and defintially plug and play with every device I need.
When I'm at home I have one USB 2.0 port filled, a FireWire 400 port filled, the Firewire800 port is also taken.
The DVI connection is taken by a 20" Dell LCD, the 1000base-T internet is connected to our cross platform home network, my PMCIA slot is filled, and when I'm aborad I sometimes use the S-video out port to showcase videos.
The other USB 2.0 port is filled with either by 20D (directly pluged and pictures pulled without 3rd party software).
My wireless card functions well with every network when out around town.
The built in blue tooth even auto syncs contacts with my cell phone, and warns me of incoming calls, displaying caller ID information on my computer screen while pausing any music/movies.
Hopefully my response based on fact(all my laptop can do) and opinion (that it does everything I need it to) doesn't label me as (oh no, say it aint so!) a religious Apple fanatic.
Windows users have more tweaking possibilities, can program easier
(Visual Studio) and have an enourmous choise in exsisting programs
for almost any task they want. For me that's way more important
than the shape of the garbage can. That's why I don't agree with
the original statement. However, I think Steve Jobs is more
sympathetic than Bill Gates.
tweaking possibilities may be important to you, but not to 99.99999% of computer users. That is is I am interpretting "tweaking" correctly, as you give no definition, just that this "tweaking" can be done with greater possibilities(?) than on MacOS... or were you talking about Apple Hardware?
Can program easier? That is a little subjective, and I've like you to point me to something that says what you claim. Visual studio is a very nice application, but depending on the laguage you want to use, it isn't the bees knees. Many Universities don't even use VS to program with, and many many companies don't use it either. None of Apples software is created with VS (dur) and it is touted as some of the best software, both functionally, powerwise, and even asthetically.
So being able to program in VS (wait, do you?) is more important to you than the shape of the garbage can (wtf?). I'm really actually not sure what you are trying to say, as none of that sounded like fact or opinion. I mean you state being able to do those things is more important to you, but you really didn't define what those things are, nor did you say you actually engage in them. I'm not sure how this is either refuting anyones post, adding to information, or helping the OP.
Anyway, I'm sorry I let myself be drawn into one of these stupid
discussions. I should've known better.
You made it stupid. Or just think it is stupid. The rest of us are learning and sharing actual knowledge based on our backgrounds and experiences. What is your background again? Or do you just jump into "stupid" discussions about products, bash the users, and jump again after leaving comments like the above?
Hope you guys have a nice day and meet your 'converting' target
this month (hope you like a joke).
ooo, another jab, clever.
I'm pretty tired of cynical ignorent Windows users who don't understand nor want to understand OSX. They sit back and wail on the Operating system, and failing that they take jabs at the users. Violance is after all the refuge of the incompatent. You don't need to agree with us, but we would ask that you stay civil and be excepting of others ideas and opinions. Disagree logically if you like, make a sound argument to the contrary, but don't jump in and make a post that can pretty much be boiled down to "you're wrong because you are religious about your computer, thus making me right".
Now take care and have a nice day.
Tyler