"We don't allow that kind of language here"

[richardplondon]

Don't take it to heart. Look at the bright side! The filter still
allows you to say "the left is right, and the right is wrong". That
offends me, as this is a photography site, and not a Stalinist
indoctrination center, but I'm still happy that you get the
opportunity to speak your mind...

Don't worry about it, these days the left is more gauche than sinister -

(sorry, I couldn't resist a glib language joke)

I do feel that people's "statement" forum signatures are seldom constructive. I find it best to ignore these, like a slogan T-shirt that the wearer has forgotten putting on!

RP

 

[james b norman]

it is funny - i shoot architecture, and posted a thread about working with tall skyscrapers. the website police would not let me use the word skyscraper because it had "cr##" in the middle of it.
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jnorman
sunridge studios
salem, oregon
D200, nikon 12-24mm ED-IF AF-S DX, 18-70mm DX
Cambo 45NX, nikkor SW 90/8, 135/5.6, 210/5.6
Graflex Crown Graphic 4x5 (1948 model)

 

[brianj]

That is what I always do, but I also choose to be not offended by
other peoples language.

A short story, totally OT. During the Korean War I spent a year
aboard a Navy ship. Creative cursing was an art both culivated and
practiced by the crew. 800 crew members, no females aboard,
floating around in the Pacific, creating new ways to curse. I went
home on leave and I was standing, having a conversation with my
mother and father and the "F" word slipped out before I could stop
it.

My father clouted me on the side of the head and it dropped me to
the floor. My father glared down at me and said, "You do not talk
that way in front of my wife!."

Although that was over 55 years ago it was a lesson well learned
and never forgotten. I am offended by other people's swearing in
front of my wife, or any other women. Yes, I realize that is an old
fashion view. But still I have managed to speak in mixed company,
using care not to offend others. You may consider that as nonsense.
I do not. And I do choose to be offended by other people's language
from time to time.

That is up to you, but you obviously have not heard some women speaking these days. I know that does not make it right or good, but that is reality, and I am not bothered by it.

Brian

 

[ajuk]

Yes he popularized it.
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The left is right and the right is wrong!

 

[TrapperJohn]

The term cr@p predates Thomas Crapper, and is believed to have come from the old English 'crappe'.

The term 'crapper' as relates to a toilet appears to have been coined by WW1 US soldiers, who saw his name on a lot of toilets while transiting the UK. TC didn't actually invent the flush toilet, he was just a good marketer who persuaded the royals in the Victorian era to switch from earth closets. Some of TC's manhole covers can still be found in London.

Lots of useless trivia here, eh? Well, it's as productive as haggling over MP or DOF, and so much more entertaining.

 

[dholl]

Does that mean that you're not really offended, only you choose to be because you have some principles from your Dad's time to keep up?

The world would be an interesting and very different place if people trusted their real feelings rather than parrot views they've been brought up with.

Tho' I can't say it would be a better place, your method described below might well be one of the reasons why societies survive.

Chipsthe1 wrote:
I do choose to be offended by other people's language from time

to time.

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dholl

 

[Les Olson]

It really easy, just compose a post with the idea that your mother,
or children, might read it.

Oh, my colonial oath. One of my earliest memories is being called a "little bugg-er" (a word used in a commercial shown in prime time on television in Australia, by the way) by my mother. And as for my son creatively fruity language is more likely to make him take notes than offence.

 

[Les Olson]

It has never been my experience that the Dutch needed anyone's consent (except one another's, of course). Indeed, the F-word is very ancient. There was an Indo-European word root "fu" meaning exist, and from it we get, in various roundabout ways, "be", "physics", and the F-word. Probably "futter" (= Italian "fottere", and Latin futuere) as well, although that word is now tragically infrequent. Mercifully, dpr's software is insufficiently well-read to recognise it as vulgar.

 

[danegeld]

I'm offended by the people who are offended by language. I'm sure they're the same people who are titillated (pun intended) by the brief sight of Janet Jackson's mammary and go running to the FCC to complain. Quaint Victorian sensibility should have been exterminated decades ago, but some people just can't let go of the past and want to impose their outdated prudery on the rest of us. Thankfully, in another generation or so, it will all go away.

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[Les Olson]

I can imagine lots of instances where that word can be used. For
instance:

1. That camera works like cr*P.
2. Your picture looks like cr*P.
3. That lens is nothing but cr*p.
4. The exposure button is a piece of cr*p on that camera.

Plus the C@non 450D is the Digital Rebel, and the 1000D is the Digital Kiss ... you can see where it is going can't you? Perhaps the next one will be the Digital Purity Ball and save dpr's blushes.

 

[Dorus]

Don't worry about it, these days the left is more gauche than sinister -

Oooh, clever!

 

[Dorus]

Yeah, but that isn't the point now, is it?

The site owner can have 2 reasons to ban words that could be considered offensive. of course, the filtering software only applies to words, and not to offensive statements which are weeded out through the complaint button.

The first reason could be to gear for the highest traffic to the site. This is a perfectly fine business principle, and offending the lowest number of people could serve that purpose.

The second reason is perhaps guided by an idealistic principle that we can all do our best to preserve some semblance of civilization in our interactions with our fellow human beings, and banning offensive words in an online forum site could be a small contribution towards that goal.

Dorus

I'm offended by the people who are offended by language. I'm sure
they're the same people who are titillated (pun intended) by the
brief sight of Janet Jackson's mammary and go running to the FCC to
complain. Quaint Victorian sensibility should have been exterminated
decades ago, but some people just can't let go of the past and want
to impose their outdated prudery on the rest of us. Thankfully, in
another generation or so, it will all go away.

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[BIGGY]

I'm offended by people who bring back old threads from 2007.

 

[RobertoAvanzi]

Which in the days of yore was more offensive than F*ck )

They let you write the four letter word YORE? And they do not moderate you? How unbelievable!

Roberto

 

[danegeld]

Yeah, but that isn't the point now, is it?

The site owner can have 2 reasons to ban words that could be
considered offensive. of course, the filtering software only applies
to words, and not to offensive statements which are weeded out
through the complaint button.

The first reason could be to gear for the highest traffic to the
site. This is a perfectly fine business principle, and offending the
lowest number of people could serve that purpose.

The second reason is perhaps guided by an idealistic principle that
we can all do our best to preserve some semblance of civilization in
our interactions with our fellow human beings, and banning offensive
words in an online forum site could be a small contribution towards
that goal.

Who gets to define what the offensive words are?

Offending the lowest number of people? That's like saying that since some people are deaf, everyone else should wear earplugs just to level the field.

Some semblance of civilization? What civilization is that and whose civilization is it? And again, who gets to decide what those words that are so offensive to civilization are?

The people who are easily offended are the ones who need to STFU. Not the other way around. It's the same tired argument that's been going on about media as long as I can remember. There is an Off switch for people who don't like what they're seeing or hearing. They need to use it and leave the rest of us alone.

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[Gregory King]

it is funny - i shoot architecture, and posted a thread about working
with tall skyscrapers. the website police would not let me use the
word skyscraper because it had "cr##" in the middle of it.

And I couldn't start a Maxxum mailing list on Yahoogroups!

So, in the same vein as "Nothing good happens after midnight...", someone decided...

"Nothing but profanity is spelled with two x's next to one another"???

Glad they filtered that filter on this forum.

Greg

 

[Dorus]

Yeah, but that isn't the point now, is it?

The site owner can have 2 reasons to ban words that could be
considered offensive. of course, the filtering software only applies
to words, and not to offensive statements which are weeded out
through the complaint button.

The first reason could be to gear for the highest traffic to the
site. This is a perfectly fine business principle, and offending the
lowest number of people could serve that purpose.

The second reason is perhaps guided by an idealistic principle that
we can all do our best to preserve some semblance of civilization in
our interactions with our fellow human beings, and banning offensive
words in an online forum site could be a small contribution towards
that goal.

Who gets to define what the offensive words are?

Offending the lowest number of people? That's like saying that since
some people are deaf, everyone else should wear earplugs just to
level the field.

Some semblance of civilization? What civilization is that and whose
civilization is it? And again, who gets to decide what those words
that are so offensive to civilization are?

The people who are easily offended are the ones who need to STFU. Not
the other way around. It's the same tired argument that's been going
on about media as long as I can remember. There is an Off switch for
people who don't like what they're seeing or hearing. They need to
use it and leave the rest of us alone.

Oh, you are must certainly free to be left alone. It is entirely your choice. Just stop visiting places where they have rules such as these. Btw, the site owners get to decide what they deem offensive.

Perhaps I should have used the word civility rather than civilization. Would that have helped you in any way?

Dorus

 

[dinnatouch]

A long time ago, somebody told me that the worst thing an Englishman
can say is "bloody." Is that true and, if is so, why is it allowed
here?

I don't know whether that's true or not but I do remember hearing that George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalion caused a bit of a stir in 1913 when Eliza replies "Walk! Not bloody likely..." after Freddy asks if she's going to walk across the park.
--
Jim R.
Dinna Touch!



http://www.dinnatouch.net

 

[dinnatouch]

Ouch. I hadn't noticed the dates until you brought that up.
--
Jim R.
Dinna Touch!



http://www.dinnatouch.net

 

[mamallama]

The Etymological dictionary gives interesting background on the
origin as well as meaning of words:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=c&p=29

Thanks. That cleared up the myth that it was a plumber, John Crapper, who helped invent the flush toilet and gave both his names to mean toilet. 8> ).

--mamallama