WB alternative to Expodisc.

[GageFX133521]

I'll go out and try it right now. It's close to raining (but sun out and it's 4:30).

Be right back...

GFX

Another method. Good job. I point it at the source light. Right or
wrong it worked for me. As for flash, if you are shooting TTL then
AUTO WB will automatically set itself to daylight - an FL-40 or
onboard match. And that's exactly what I would do. I'd only use the
WBdisc when I'm shooting in anything OTHER than onboard/mounted
flash.

-GageFX

Hi GageFX, thanks for your tips on the flash part. I tried the lid
today outdoor but it didn't do wonder like my previous test. It was
about 5 pm, the sun was still out I was in the shade - I didn't
know where to point to get a reading so I just pointed up to the
sky. The shot came out a litte less sastified than the 5500K one.
Any tricks for this one?
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[GageFX133521]

Who stole my Pringles lid??

GFX

Be right back...

GFX

Another method. Good job. I point it at the source light. Right or
wrong it worked for me. As for flash, if you are shooting TTL then
AUTO WB will automatically set itself to daylight - an FL-40 or
onboard match. And that's exactly what I would do. I'd only use the
WBdisc when I'm shooting in anything OTHER than onboard/mounted
flash.

-GageFX

Hi GageFX, thanks for your tips on the flash part. I tried the lid
today outdoor but it didn't do wonder like my previous test. It was
about 5 pm, the sun was still out I was in the shade - I didn't
know where to point to get a reading so I just pointed up to the
sky. The shot came out a litte less sastified than the 5500K one.
Any tricks for this one?
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[GageFX133521]

1. 1, Mark, stop stealing my Pringles lid. Go get your own.

1. 2, I used my Qdisc and pointed it in the direction I was shooting. Camera position, straight ahead. Not towards the sky, or Mecca or South Central. It worked perfectly. The custom WB is right on, and much nicer than auto.

Wish I had my Pringles lid so I could do a comp. Maybe we have found it's weekness.

-GageFX

 

[GageFX133521]

I dont have an E-xx in front of me so I cant precisely say the process, but "Auto WB" doesnt play a part. You use the wacky WB icon button to take a WB frame, it shows up on the display you click OK or something and then it is set. "AutoWB" isnt what ends up set, it's "-0-" or something else. I cant remember what.

Now I'm wondering if I understand your question. I dont think I know what you are asking. Sorry, I tried.

-GageFX

A quick question, do you after you adjust for your light source do
you just leave the cam in auto white balance or are you fond of
adjusting the temp settings? Thanks in advance for you or whoever
answers this question, I'll be away from the machine for a while.

Thanks, Bill

I learned this tidbit on a Canon forum somewhere. I think it was
the one post that wasnt about a lens or frontfocus.

At any rate, many of you may have heard of the "Expodisc".
http://www.expodisc.com/

They cost between $50-60.

I made mine for $17 plus one white Kleenex tissue, although I'm
sure other brands will work as well.

Here are the results: (These are with 10D settings. The custom WB
will work just as well with the E-xx, your auto setting may work
better though.)

This was shot of a white wall, white shelves, and slightly grey/off
white speakers. The matte on the lower frame is also white.

First shot is the custom setting shot, the others are self
explanatory (I think).











As you can see, the custom setting is right on. The incandescent
shot comes close, but auto and fluorescent are way off.

This will work just as well on the E-xx.

Here's how it's made.

Buy a Quantum QF64 Diffusing UV Filter Kit - about $17 from any
camera store. It comes with two plastic discs and a plastic ring
that these discs fit into. Take a white tissue and sandwhich it
between the two plastic discs. Snap the discs into the ring. Cut
excess tissue with scissors. Tada.

Another thing, the largest Expodisc is 72mm. The fancy-dancy
Quantum WB doohickey is about 120mm so it is large enough to work
with any size lens.

All you do is hold the "f-d Q WB dh" up to the lens, aim the camera
at the light source and take your WB set exposure. That's it.

Just an E-xx pertinant tidbit from a former E-xxer.

-GageFX

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[Bill Wallace]

I think you answered it, in the manual, under the quick reference wb you shoot a white card, which is what we're doing with the pringles lid and the light source, then they say turn the sub dial for the color temp setting. I will play with this later after I get to the store fo my pringles can. I wonder if it just doesn't save it as a custom wb and you just fire away.

Thanks Gage,

Bill

Now I'm wondering if I understand your question. I dont think I
know what you are asking. Sorry, I tried.

-GageFX

A quick question, do you after you adjust for your light source do
you just leave the cam in auto white balance or are you fond of
adjusting the temp settings? Thanks in advance for you or whoever
answers this question, I'll be away from the machine for a while.

Thanks, Bill

I learned this tidbit on a Canon forum somewhere. I think it was
the one post that wasnt about a lens or frontfocus.

At any rate, many of you may have heard of the "Expodisc".
http://www.expodisc.com/

They cost between $50-60.

I made mine for $17 plus one white Kleenex tissue, although I'm
sure other brands will work as well.

Here are the results: (These are with 10D settings. The custom WB
will work just as well with the E-xx, your auto setting may work
better though.)

This was shot of a white wall, white shelves, and slightly grey/off
white speakers. The matte on the lower frame is also white.

First shot is the custom setting shot, the others are self
explanatory (I think).











As you can see, the custom setting is right on. The incandescent
shot comes close, but auto and fluorescent are way off.

This will work just as well on the E-xx.

Here's how it's made.

Buy a Quantum QF64 Diffusing UV Filter Kit - about $17 from any
camera store. It comes with two plastic discs and a plastic ring
that these discs fit into. Take a white tissue and sandwhich it
between the two plastic discs. Snap the discs into the ring. Cut
excess tissue with scissors. Tada.

Another thing, the largest Expodisc is 72mm. The fancy-dancy
Quantum WB doohickey is about 120mm so it is large enough to work
with any size lens.

All you do is hold the "f-d Q WB dh" up to the lens, aim the camera
at the light source and take your WB set exposure. That's it.

Just an E-xx pertinant tidbit from a former E-xxer.

-GageFX

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[GageFX133521]

Wish I had the manual in front of me, that sounds kinda strange. I dont think the sub dial factors into a custom WB.

BUt yes, from what I remember, you shoot the Pringles lid as your "quick reference" (I guess) and then it pops up on your LCD and you choose confirm or deny. (Dont know the exact wording.)

-GageFX

Thanks Gage,

Bill

Now I'm wondering if I understand your question. I dont think I
know what you are asking. Sorry, I tried.

-GageFX

A quick question, do you after you adjust for your light source do
you just leave the cam in auto white balance or are you fond of
adjusting the temp settings? Thanks in advance for you or whoever
answers this question, I'll be away from the machine for a while.

Thanks, Bill

I learned this tidbit on a Canon forum somewhere. I think it was
the one post that wasnt about a lens or frontfocus.

At any rate, many of you may have heard of the "Expodisc".
http://www.expodisc.com/

They cost between $50-60.

I made mine for $17 plus one white Kleenex tissue, although I'm
sure other brands will work as well.

Here are the results: (These are with 10D settings. The custom WB
will work just as well with the E-xx, your auto setting may work
better though.)

This was shot of a white wall, white shelves, and slightly grey/off
white speakers. The matte on the lower frame is also white.

First shot is the custom setting shot, the others are self
explanatory (I think).











As you can see, the custom setting is right on. The incandescent
shot comes close, but auto and fluorescent are way off.

This will work just as well on the E-xx.

Here's how it's made.

Buy a Quantum QF64 Diffusing UV Filter Kit - about $17 from any
camera store. It comes with two plastic discs and a plastic ring
that these discs fit into. Take a white tissue and sandwhich it
between the two plastic discs. Snap the discs into the ring. Cut
excess tissue with scissors. Tada.

Another thing, the largest Expodisc is 72mm. The fancy-dancy
Quantum WB doohickey is about 120mm so it is large enough to work
with any size lens.

All you do is hold the "f-d Q WB dh" up to the lens, aim the camera
at the light source and take your WB set exposure. That's it.

Just an E-xx pertinant tidbit from a former E-xxer.

-GageFX

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[Doehns]

Wish I had the manual in front of me, that sounds kinda strange. I
dont think the sub dial factors into a custom WB.

BUt yes, from what I remember, you shoot the Pringles lid as your
"quick reference" (I guess) and then it pops up on your LCD and you
choose confirm or deny. (Dont know the exact wording.)

-GageFX

http://www.olympusamerica.com/files/E-10_Reference_Manual.pdf

The quick refference WB is stored under the setting 0Kelvin, and it stays there until it is overwritten by a new one( even if you switch off the camera).

So if you do the Pringles trick and then use the WB-button plus dial to switch to a preset, you can go back to the measured WB( 0 K) without eating a new tube of pringles....

 

[OldDigiman]

Remember that chewy Pringle that tasted a little funny?

Who stole my Pringles lid??

GFX

 

[Bill Wallace]

Gage & Doehns,

That answered it thanks . Now to polish off my Pringles...

Bill

Wish I had the manual in front of me, that sounds kinda strange. I
dont think the sub dial factors into a custom WB.

BUt yes, from what I remember, you shoot the Pringles lid as your
"quick reference" (I guess) and then it pops up on your LCD and you
choose confirm or deny. (Dont know the exact wording.)

-GageFX

http://www.olympusamerica.com/files/E-10_Reference_Manual.pdf

The quick refference WB is stored under the setting 0Kelvin, and it
stays there until it is overwritten by a new one( even if you
switch off the camera).
So if you do the Pringles trick and then use the WB-button plus
dial to switch to a preset, you can go back to the measured WB( 0
K) without eating a new tube of pringles....

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[markE59102]

The quick refference WB is stored under the setting 0Kelvin, and it
stays there until it is overwritten by a new one( even if you
switch off the camera).

That's right!

You win a new can of...

! ! ! * * * Pringles!!! * * * ! ! !

So if you do the Pringles trick and then use the WB-button plus
dial to switch to a preset, you can go back to the measured WB( 0
K) without eating a new tube of pringles....

LOL! That was good!

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[Chuck61696]

OK, a couple of questions.

Do you have to remove the lens shade so you can get the filter all the way against the lens?

What about the bottom of a spray bottle, so you can slide it over the lens shade?

I have tried a couple of shots with the bottle thingymado. It's more acurate than the auto setting.

Chuck

 

[markE59102]

OK, a couple of questions.

Do you have to remove the lens shade so you can get the filter all
the way against the lens?

Sorry, I can't help you there. I'm going to try this for the first time today.

What about the bottom of a spray bottle, so you can slide it over
the lens shade?

Oooo! A refinement of the Pringles top! This product is evolving faster than the DSLR! The thing I like about the Pringles lid, is that it's easily pocketable.

I have tried a couple of shots with the bottle thingymado. It's
more acurate than the auto setting.

Good to hear.

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[Chuck61696]

What about the bottom of a spray bottle, so you can slide it over
the lens shade?

Oooo! A refinement of the Pringles top! This product is evolving
faster than the DSLR! The thing I like about the Pringles lid, is
that it's easily pocketable.

The Pringles top has it in portability but factor in not having to remove shade(if you have to?). Maybe we should market this thing. We could sell them pretty cheap and still make a killing.

Chuck

 

[Bill Wallace]

What about the bottom of a spray bottle, so you can slide it over
the lens shade?

Oooo! A refinement of the Pringles top! This product is evolving
faster than the DSLR! The thing I like about the Pringles lid, is
that it's easily pocketable.

The Pringles top has it in portability but factor in not having to
remove shade(if you have to?). Maybe we should market this thing.
We could sell them pretty cheap and still make a killing.

Chuck

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