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Patrick Lacson said:
The law around here seems to be that once you get your new F707 get
a UV filter to protect the CZ lens. So my question is 2 parts:

1) What UV filters would you recommend

2) Are there any image loss with a UV filter? Someone mentioned
vignetting.. Focus issues?

Thanks
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Patrick
http://pbase.com/placson
http://lacson.org
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I'm in the same position looking for a suitable UV filter for my newly purchased F707 and have read many posts previous to purchasing. Unfortunately, now that I have one in my hands, I have yet to locate the definative answer to the UV filter question. Was there one considered better than the rest and if so which filter will work and still allow enough space at the end of the lense to still use the Sony lense cap.

So far my searches of local camera stores have failed to turn up a 58mm UV in stock on anyones shelf. I guess this means a purchase through an online source.

I've seen reference to a Hoya multicoated UV/Haze filter as being a good workable bet. I certainly don't have any qualms about spending a few dollars more for a good filter at the end of a great lense.

As the final answer to this question, cause I'd certainly like to quit looking... What does everyone else think?

Thanks
Gordon
 
UV filters shouldn't be causing focus problems (though I have a uv filter and focus problems!). Supposedly, ALL they block is UV frequencies which make for haze, etc. But what distinguishes a good one from a bad one, I'm not sure.

I do know that the Hoya multicoated "blue box" (as opposed to green box, which are inferior) are supposedly the best you can find.
Gordon M said:
Patrick Lacson said:
The law around here seems to be that once you get your new F707 get
a UV filter to protect the CZ lens. So my question is 2 parts:

1) What UV filters would you recommend

2) Are there any image loss with a UV filter? Someone mentioned
vignetting.. Focus issues?

Thanks
--
Patrick
http://pbase.com/placson
http://lacson.org
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I'm in the same position looking for a suitable UV filter for my
newly purchased F707 and have read many posts previous to
purchasing. Unfortunately, now that I have one in my hands, I have
yet to locate the definative answer to the UV filter question. Was
there one considered better than the rest and if so which filter
will work and still allow enough space at the end of the lense to
still use the Sony lense cap.
So far my searches of local camera stores have failed to turn up a
58mm UV in stock on anyones shelf. I guess this means a purchase
through an online source.

I've seen reference to a Hoya multicoated UV/Haze filter as being a
good workable bet. I certainly don't have any qualms about spending
a few dollars more for a good filter at the end of a great lense.

As the final answer to this question, cause I'd certainly like to
quit looking... What does everyone else think?

Thanks
Gordon
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--EricF707 http://www.pbase.com/erichocinc
 
I bought a UV Filter from Jessops (own brand). It was £10. Seems to work fine. No focussing problems at all, Lenscap still fits and it has a thread in it, so I can fit other filters without removing it.
 
To the best of my knowledge, there are no focus/vignette issues directly linked with using a UV filter. I honestly cannot tell any difference in my pics with/without the filter. Its just there for protection.

As for quality, the differences lie in the coatings and the material of the filter frame. Very cheap ones use a plastic frame, avoid those. Some higher quality filters use brass frames (B+W for example) although I'm not sure what the benefit of brass is, maybe it threads on smoother?

Go for a filter with some coatings like Hoya HMC, it will reduce glare and stray light reflecting between the lens and filter. I guess you get what you pay for, the more $ the more anti-glare coatings. How much you spend is entirely up to you.

I'm not sure I helped clarify anything, but its all I know.
Patrick Lacson said:
The law around here seems to be that once you get your new F707 get
a UV filter to protect the CZ lens. So my question is 2 parts:

1) What UV filters would you recommend

2) Are there any image loss with a UV filter? Someone mentioned
vignetting.. Focus issues?

Thanks
--
Patrick
http://pbase.com/placson
http://lacson.org
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--MarkF707, LEVBFS but lovin every minute of it!Infrared-o-maniacStickers on, dangling cap. http://www.pbase.com/little_pooter
 
Gordon M said:
Patrick Lacson said:
The law around here seems to be that once you get your new F707 get
a UV filter to protect the CZ lens. So my question is 2 parts:

1) What UV filters would you recommend

2) Are there any image loss with a UV filter? Someone mentioned
vignetting.. Focus issues?

Thanks
--
Patrick
http://pbase.com/placson
http://lacson.org
Click to expand...
I'm in the same position looking for a suitable UV filter for my
newly purchased F707 and have read many posts previous to
purchasing. Unfortunately, now that I have one in my hands, I have
yet to locate the definative answer to the UV filter question. Was
there one considered better than the rest and if so which filter
will work and still allow enough space at the end of the lense to
still use the Sony lense cap.
So far my searches of local camera stores have failed to turn up a
58mm UV in stock on anyones shelf. I guess this means a purchase
through an online source.

I've seen reference to a Hoya multicoated UV/Haze filter as being a
good workable bet. I certainly don't have any qualms about spending
a few dollars more for a good filter at the end of a great lense.

As the final answer to this question, cause I'd certainly like to
quit looking... What does everyone else think?

Thanks
Gordon
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Try Ritz camera. If they don't have a 58mm I know they have a 62mm.Use step up ring. That is what I did because 62mm is the size of my Minolta Maxum XT. Now I can use all filters that I have on both.
 
The most important thing about a UV/Haze filter is to protect the lens. But don't fret about a UV filter with or without mult-coating. I have used my 707 with a B+W filters...with and without multi-coating. I cannot tell ANY difference in the quality of my images...all taken in a variety of lighting conditions.

Please remember though, these B+W filters are ultra high-quality filters. Don't buy junk! Buy from Tiffen, Hoya, and B+W. Your Carl Zeiss lens on the 707 is already multi-coated. There is no need to add another layer of glass that is multi-coated.

The one thing that I noticed about the B+W filters is that they screw on the camera in a very smooth manner. The threads on the Hoya and Tiffen filters are a little rougher. I would go for a B+W filter from Adorama or B&H photo. You can pick it up for $20.50. The B+W Haze with multi-coating is about $35.00. Save the $15.00 though.

You can also get a multi-coated Tiffen or Hoya for $15.00. Both are super filters. There is one negative thing that I found with multi-coated filters: They are much harder to clean or polish without swirl marks. For that reason alone, I would rather have the $20.50 B+W.
 
Thanks so much for sharing your filter experience with us! I think I'll take your advice and order the B+W filter from adorama.com

-P
Billy said:
The most important thing about a UV/Haze filter is to protect the
lens. But don't fret about a UV filter with or without
mult-coating. I have used my 707 with a B+W filters...with and
without multi-coating. I cannot tell ANY difference in the quality
of my images...all taken in a variety of lighting conditions.

Please remember though, these B+W filters are ultra high-quality
filters. Don't buy junk! Buy from Tiffen, Hoya, and B+W. Your
Carl Zeiss lens on the 707 is already multi-coated. There is no
need to add another layer of glass that is multi-coated.

The one thing that I noticed about the B+W filters is that they
screw on the camera in a very smooth manner. The threads on the
Hoya and Tiffen filters are a little rougher. I would go for a B+W
filter from Adorama or B&H photo. You can pick it up for $20.50.
The B+W Haze with multi-coating is about $35.00. Save the $15.00
though.

You can also get a multi-coated Tiffen or Hoya for $15.00. Both
are super filters. There is one negative thing that I found with
multi-coated filters: They are much harder to clean or polish
without swirl marks. For that reason alone, I would rather have
the $20.50 B+W.
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Guys,

I just got the B+W UV/Haze filter and tried it out today. As Billy mentioned, I cannot tell any difference in the quality of my pictures. Albeit I went home for lunch and shot only 10 pictures of our neighborhood squirrels! I also expected the filter to be much lighter, but the B+W UV/Haze filter was a good weight.

Lens cap fits too! Thanks again guys! Now I don't have to sweat scratching the sacred CZ lens!

-P
Patrick Lacson said:
-P
Billy said:
The most important thing about a UV/Haze filter is to protect the
lens. But don't fret about a UV filter with or without
mult-coating. I have used my 707 with a B+W filters...with and
without multi-coating. I cannot tell ANY difference in the quality
of my images...all taken in a variety of lighting conditions.

Please remember though, these B+W filters are ultra high-quality
filters. Don't buy junk! Buy from Tiffen, Hoya, and B+W. Your
Carl Zeiss lens on the 707 is already multi-coated. There is no
need to add another layer of glass that is multi-coated.

The one thing that I noticed about the B+W filters is that they
screw on the camera in a very smooth manner. The threads on the
Hoya and Tiffen filters are a little rougher. I would go for a B+W
filter from Adorama or B&H photo. You can pick it up for $20.50.
The B+W Haze with multi-coating is about $35.00. Save the $15.00
though.

You can also get a multi-coated Tiffen or Hoya for $15.00. Both
are super filters. There is one negative thing that I found with
multi-coated filters: They are much harder to clean or polish
without swirl marks. For that reason alone, I would rather have
the $20.50 B+W.
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Yves P. said:
Shay said:
Law huh? ;-) well if not using one is wrong, I don't want to be
right hehehe
--
Shay

My Sony F707 Gallery: http://shaystephens.com/portfolio.asp
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I never used a UV filter on my 707, it is not only non-mandatory
but you will lose part of quality everytime you put extra glass on
top of a lens

--
Kafrifelle (Yves P.) Owner of DSC-F707,
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What is the difference between the uv haze filter and the sky filter? Today when I ordered from 2filter, I was told there is no difference when using a digital camera. What was the intended difference and is it true with digital it makes no difference? Thanks

Charlotte
Yves P. said:
No BFS, No hassle but strong vignetting on left
VCL-MHG07A, HVL-F1000 and some close up lenses ...
http://www.pbase.com/kafrifelle
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--ckw
 
charlotte said:
Yves P. said:
Shay said:
Law huh? ;-) well if not using one is wrong, I don't want to be
right hehehe
--
Shay

My Sony F707 Gallery: http://shaystephens.com/portfolio.asp
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I never used a UV filter on my 707, it is not only non-mandatory
but you will lose part of quality everytime you put extra glass on
top of a lens

--
Kafrifelle (Yves P.) Owner of DSC-F707,
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What is the difference between the uv haze filter and the sky
filter? Today when I ordered from 2filter, I was told there is no
difference when using a digital camera. What was the intended
difference and is it true with digital it makes no difference?
Thanks

Charlotte
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Hi Charlotte, instead of answering something stupid, I rather say I don't know the diff between the 2. I really do not use any UV filters ...

Take care
charlotte64927 said:
charlotte64927 said:
No BFS, No hassle but strong vignetting on left
VCL-MHG07A, HVL-F1000 and some close up lenses ...
http://www.pbase.com/kafrifelle
Click to expand...
--
ckw
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--Kafrifelle (Yves P.) Owner of DSC-F707,No BFS, No hassle but strong vignetting on leftVCL-MHG07A, HVL-F1000 and some close up lenses ... http://www.pbase.com/kafrifelle
 
A skylight filter slightly reduces blue. I noticed a difference on my E10 when I switched from a Hoya multicoated UV to a Hoya HMC Super Skylight 1b -- the skylight gives my images slightly warmer, more pleasing color. It may help with blue casts on the F707 when using a flash. By slightly reducing blue tones, your camera will set white balance differently because it will see color differently. In any case, a quality filter is highly recommended. Hoya's HMC Super filters alow 97.7% of the light to pass through, cheaper filters will reflect the light (which is why coated filters are so important, they don't reflect light off the filter glass nearly as much). Hoya's regular HMC filters allow 97-99% of the light to pass through (the rest is deflected). Non coated filters can reflect more than 6% of the light away. I have tried cheaper Skylight filters and did not notice a difference.
charlotte said:
Yves P. said:
Shay said:
Law huh? ;-) well if not using one is wrong, I don't want to be
right hehehe
--
Shay

My Sony F707 Gallery: http://shaystephens.com/portfolio.asp
Click to expand...
I never used a UV filter on my 707, it is not only non-mandatory
but you will lose part of quality everytime you put extra glass on
top of a lens

--
Kafrifelle (Yves P.) Owner of DSC-F707,
Click to expand...
What is the difference between the uv haze filter and the sky
filter? Today when I ordered from 2filter, I was told there is no
difference when using a digital camera. What was the intended
difference and is it true with digital it makes no difference?
Thanks

Charlotte
charlotte64927 said:
No BFS, No hassle but strong vignetting on left
VCL-MHG07A, HVL-F1000 and some close up lenses ...
http://www.pbase.com/kafrifelle
Click to expand...
--
ckw
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