Understanding Diffraction: Why It Matters for Photographers

At last the Caterpillar took the hookah out of its mouth and addressed
Alice in a languid, sleepy voice.

"Who are _you_?" said the Caterpillar.

Alice replied, rather shyly, "I--I hardly know, sir, just at present--at
least I know who I _was_ when I got up this morning, but I think I must
have changed several times since then."

"What do you mean by that?" said the Caterpillar, sternly. "Explain
yourself!"

"I can't explain _myself_, I'm afraid, sir," said Alice, "because I'm
not myself, you see--being so many different sizes in a day is very
confusing." She drew herself up and said very gravely, "I think you
ought to tell me who _you_ are, first."

"Why?" said the Caterpillar.
 
"ChatGPT is very good about writing explanatory comments with copious usage examples."

That was my first job out of college, writing a manual and adding comments to a large Fortran code for atmospheric propagation of radiation and probability of detection. Also converting from Fortran 66 o 77 which was mostly fixing the thing that do loops always ran at least once in 66.

I've heard a lot about ChatGPT replacing entry level jobs. Sounds like it would have eliminated mine too.

My daughter tells me two years ago everyone who made the slightest effort and wanted an engineering internship job got one. This summer almost no one got one.
 
I will relay that to my daughter. As you can probably imagine, deciding where the reference is going to be is really important when planning ahead for how you are going to inspect parts for optical assemblies.

Early on in my career I made the mistake of designing an optical mount that was difficult to inspect. It was fine when it was being made on a five-axis mill. But when the contract went to someone with only a four-axis mill it got made slightly wrong because it was being made in two steps instead of all at once. It took me way longer than it should have to figure out where the problem was. From then on, everything I had made I thought about where the reference was and how it would be inspected. As usual, it was something one of my optical professors taught, but sometimes you still have to learn the hard way.
 
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My daughter tells me two years ago everyone who made the slightest effort and wanted an engineering internship job got one. This summer almost no one got one.
Could be cyclical, because of the massive over hiring in the aftermath of Covid, which is recently being undone. At least I hope so.
 
My daughter tells me two years ago everyone who made the slightest effort and wanted an engineering internship job got one. This summer almost no one got one.
Could be cyclical, because of the massive over hiring in the aftermath of Covid, which is recently being undone. At least I hope so.
You probably have more insight into that than most of us.
 
Interesting I would think landscapes would avoid diffraction
Diffraction softening is a common problem with beginner landscape photographers who believe they need a tight aperture (though usually they don’t).



But diffraction is often adequately overcome with sharpening.

Tight apertures are common in macro photography, at least with those who don’t use focus stacking.
 
Been fine tuning this brief article with ChatGPT
It's tough getting wording to say exactly the right thing. ChatGPT generally doesn't do that.
When you stop down a lens to achieve more depth of field, you’re also introducing a fundamental optical effect called diffraction.
For instance, here. Most of the time the wording in your article seems to imply that diffraction is an On/Off effect. It is not. Diffraction is a property of light passing edges, and the way we record images, all light has passed an edge, so there's always some diffraction. Stopping down a lens does not "introduce" diffraction. Stopping down a lens changes the diffraction.
Diffraction happens when light waves bend as they pass through a small aperture.
Another poor wording example. Photons act as waves when passed through apertures. But just as a water wave doesn't "bend" when it goes through an opening, neither does light. The opening disrupts the light, introducing a wave effect, which redirects some of the light. Call it a spreading effect.
The smaller the opening (higher f‑stop), the more light spreads out, creating a larger blur circle called the Airy disk.
And see here, you used "spreads."
The smaller the pixel pitch (distance between pixels), the more that diffraction blur affects the image. High‑resolution sensors with tiny pixels will show diffraction softening earlier than lower‑resolution sensors.
"Affects" and "will show" become problematic here. Technically, diffraction hits the same sized sensor the same way. The image is the "same." However, you're sampling the diffraction impact (spreading) better with smaller pixels. Whether that would be seen by the image viewer or not depends a lot on the magnification at which the image is reproduced, though. Moreover, if we're talking a print, most of the "fine resolution" from inkjet printers comes from dithering, ink spread, and other things, which has its own way of masking what's happening in the actual capture data.
Pixel pitch and diffraction thresholds for Fujifilm X‑series bodies:
"Thresholds." Again, the implication of On/Off.
Camera ModelResolutionPixel Pitch (approx.)

Diffraction Noticeable
"Noticeable." Hmm. Doesn't that require a definition of how the data is being viewed? Magnification, display/print density, a whole bunch of things, and if you've got your image processor (or camera) set with any sharpening/noise reduction, that, too, would come into play.
Cameras with larger pixels (like the X‑T1) can be stopped down further before diffraction visibly softens fine detail.
Again, no definitions that allow us to verify that "visibly softens."
Higher‑resolution models like the X‑T5 produce more detail overall but reveal diffraction earlier.
"Earlier" is a very wrong word here. Does 40mp reveal diffraction at noon, and 24mp reveal it at 2pm?
I liked your overall explanations/corrections. I couldn't help laughing out loud at this one though :)
Stopping down increases depth of field, which brings more of the scene into focus.
"Focus" only happens on a single plane in an image. Both diffraction impact and depth of field are about perceptions. Can you perceive the actual Airy disk (I generally say no, at least not until you're at 2x the photosite size in a Bayer sensor)? When do you perceive something as being "sufficiently in focus?" The Zeiss DoF algorithm that most people use is one theory; there are competing theories.
many photographers aim for a sweet spot aperture (f/4–f/8 on high‑MP APS‑C)
"Many" is the problem here. I don't know those "many," and the "many" I've worked with would say something different.
where sharpness and DOF balance out. For extreme DOF without diffraction softening, focus stacking is the best solution.
Technically, focus stacking is capturing multiple focus planes and interpolating between them. And how did that happen without diffraction? ;~) Again with the On/Off implication.
When you view images at 100% on a high‑resolution monitor, any loss of micro‑contrast from diffraction is obvious.
For decades now on dpreview we've argued about the terms "micro contrast" and its stand-ins. What exactly is that, and who defined it?
But prints are seen at lower resolution (usually 200–300 dpi) and at greater viewing distances.
My 5K monitor is about the size of a 24" print. Are you saying I view my monitor closer than I do my 24" print? Funny point: I don't remember putting a loupe up to my monitor, but I do remember using it on my prints ;~).
As a result:
  • Mild diffraction at f/8–f/11 is rarely visible in print, even at large sizes.
Suddenly diffraction isn't On/Off, but comes in Mild and Strong values? Where would we find the definitions of those?
  • The “softness” you see when zoomed in disappears when the image is downsampled for printing.
Now we're using "softness" instead of "blur." And why am I downsampling for printing?
✅ Takeaways for Photographers
  • Diffraction is unavoidable – it’s a law of physics.
Yes.
  • Cameras with larger pixels (X‑T1, X‑T2) are more forgiving at small apertures.
"Forgiving" is the problematic word here. Technically, large pixels may be large enough so that the Airy disc falls completely on an individual pixel.
  • High‑resolution cameras like X‑T5 reveal diffraction earlier but provide more detail overall.
Again with that "earlier" wording. I've written it for decades now: I'll always take more sampling. What additional sampling produces may have declining visual impacts, but I'd still want more sampling rather than less. It gives me a more accurate data set to start from.
  • Use f/4–f/8 for maximum sharpness on high‑MP APS‑C sensors.
Simply don't agree. Part of that has to do with the use of the word "sharpness."
  • With proper post‑processing, f/11 or even f/13 shots can still produce sharp, detailed prints.
  • Primes don’t change diffraction physics, but because they are usually sharper, they can still produce better small‑aperture images than zooms.
"Sharp" keeps getting used here. Yet we haven't talked about what sharpening does with blur and anti-aliasing. Hmm, maybe it introduces micro contrast (tongue sharply in cheek ;~).
  • Don’t panic about mild diffraction – prints hide it much better than screens.
Way too generic a construct. Most photos these days are being viewed on phones, maybe tablets. Both of which are small screens normally held at arms length, yet with high pixel density ("Retina displays"). Moreover, they're using striped arrays, not changeable pixel values. All kinds of variables are seeping in.
Personal thought: Maybe I should break out my XT1 more often and try with the newer lenses?
I keep finding my 6mp D100 images taken 20 years ago hold up really, really well. At least the ones where I was paying close attention to what I was doing. Boy do they have a lot of micro contrast (just kidding ;~).

Yes, I've been nit-picky harsh here. Generalizing any photographic topic is no easy chore. I get it wrong myself often enough to be embarrassed and having to fix things on my sites pretty much every month. The problem is that a lot of these generalizations end up myths that everyone believes are sacrosanct, and then they keep getting repeated.

Which brings us to ChatGTP and the other AI engines. Grossly simplified, they're pattern recognizers and repeaters. So when articles get written that use language loosely and less than accurate, the AI engines eventually scrape that into their model and we get even more repetition of the same language downstream. I'm finding more and more that I have to question the answer I get from a LLM AI engine.
 
I put in couple of quotes from the original post into CoPilot and asked if it could find anything wrong with it. Basically it said it was a practically perfect, nothing wrong with it. (I think there is a lot wrong with it because different people would make different adjustments based on reading it)

After a couple of more questions trying to get CoPilot to recognize there was some kind of problem or vagueness, I asked. Which one is earlier, is f/5 earlier and f/13 later, or is f/13 earlier and f/5 later. Then it came up with this

"Why Writers Use “Earlier” It’s a common shorthand in photography writing because it’s intuitive—people think of aperture as a progression (f/2 → f/16), and “earlier” fits that mental model. But for technical clarity, especially in engineering or optics contexts, it’s worth replacing with more precise language."
 
I played with Grok a week ago asking it a question not related to photography. The reply was not quite correct. Then I said - but Wikipedia says this and that, implying that it contradicted what Grok claimed. Grok tried to reconcile the two versions and downplay the contradiction. I confronted Grok again with another source. Grok admitted halfway that its original version was not good.
 
I played with Grok a week ago asking it a question not related to photography. The reply was not quite correct. Then I said - but Wikipedia says this and that, implying that it contradicted what Grok claimed. Grok tried to reconcile the two versions and downplay the contradiction. I confronted Grok again with another source. Grok admitted halfway that its original version was not good.
When confronted with such contradictions, Microsoft Copilot quickly apologizes and gives a different answer (which might be wrong as well).
 
I put in couple of quotes from the original post into CoPilot and asked if it could find anything wrong with it. Basically it said it was a practically perfect, nothing wrong with it. (I think there is a lot wrong with it because different people would make different adjustments based on reading it)

After a couple of more questions trying to get CoPilot to recognize there was some kind of problem or vagueness, I asked. Which one is earlier, is f/5 earlier and f/13 later, or is f/13 earlier and f/5 later. Then it came up with this

"Why Writers Use “Earlier” It’s a common shorthand in photography writing because it’s intuitive—people think of aperture as a progression (f/2 → f/16), and “earlier” fits that mental model. But for technical clarity, especially in engineering or optics contexts, it’s worth replacing with more precise language."
I like Thom Hogan's response. :D
 
Pro tip. Ask for a reply in a specific style. This is what I got from ChatGPT (uncensored):

Alright. You want the fundamentals of diffraction, but explained like Anthony Jeselnik — dark, dry, brutally sharp, with a side of smug genius?

Buckle up.

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🧠 Diffraction for People Who Pretend They’re Not Dumb

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1. Diffraction is not a bug. It’s physics flipping you off.

You close your aperture too much? Light doesn’t just keep playing nice.

Nope—light starts spreading out, like your career after one bad tweet.

It's called diffraction, and it happens every time you try to get too precise.

The universe punishes you for trying too hard. Sound familiar?

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2. Even a perfect lens still loses to diffraction.

You could have NASA design your lens. Doesn’t matter.

The second you hit a high f-stop like f/22, boom—your sharpness falls apart like a Tinder date with opinions.

Why? Because diffraction is fundamental. It's built into how light works.

You can't fix it. You can only respect it…

Like a restraining order.

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3. f/22 on full frame is just f/11 on micro four-thirds.

That’s right—crop sensors don’t get a free pass.

You thought downsizing would save you? Cute.

Turns out, physics still shows up, no matter how small your sensor or how big your ego.

f-number times crop factor equals “how much detail you just threw in the trash.”

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4. There's a sweet spot. Don’t be greedy.

Lenses aren’t magic. Wide open? You get blur from optical flaws.

Too closed down? Diffraction ruins your resolution.

There’s a middle ground—usually f/5.6 to f/8—where everything’s fine.

Just like your last relationship: Not perfect. Not terrible. But it worked.

Until you messed with it.

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5. Diffraction doesn’t care about your megapixels.

Got a 100MP camera? Good for you.

But if your aperture is small enough, all you're capturing is blurry lies in 100 million pieces.

Diffraction isn’t impressed by resolution. It ruins high hopes.

Like a bad wedding speech. Or your dad.

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Want more hard truths about light, optics, or other ways nature makes you look stupid?

I’m here.

Physics doesn’t care.

And neither do I.
 
Lot has been explained/clarified in this thread about diffraction in the context of sensor/resolution/DOF/etc.

I have thought about its implication for lens performance and cost after I got my G9ii.

According to several reviews my PL12-60 zoom performs at its best at f/5.6 (let's say its max resolution and least distortion).

My GH5ii has 20MP resolution. According to online calculators diffraction will start to become noticeable after f/5.6 for this sensor size and resolution. That means, I can use my PL12-60 zoom at its optimal aperture on this body. If another cheaper lens performs best at f/8, that is into diffraction territory for this camera.

My G9ii has 25MP resolution. According to online calculators diffraction will start to become noticeable after f/5. Now the optimal aperture of this zoom is already into diffraction territory when used on this body.

A comparable zoom that might produce its best results at f/5 or f/4 will cost more than the PL12-60. When future m43 bodies have more megapixels, even more expensive lenses that perform better at wider apertures will be required.

As the resolution increases for any given sensor size, and we want the best performance from the lenses, I think the lenses will become more expensive. We can debate whether it is at f/5.6 or f/4.5, but at some point that will happen.

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Pro tip. Ask for a reply in a specific style. This is what I got from ChatGPT (uncensored):

Alright. You want the fundamentals of diffraction, but explained like Anthony Jeselnik — dark, dry, brutally sharp, with a side of smug genius?

Buckle up.
Thank you. That's one of the better explanations I have seen. :D While it's not as descriptive as it could be, I suspect that it is more to the point of what a lot of people need to hear, and maybe less likely to be challenged by internet experts.
 
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Interesting I would think landscapes would avoid diffraction
Do landscapes have any real autonomous choice in these matters of aesthetical judgment ?
Diffraction softening is a common problem with beginner landscape photographers who believe they need a tight aperture (though usually they don’t). But diffraction is often adequately overcome with sharpening. Tight apertures are common in macro photography, at least with those who don’t use focus stacking.
Centrally, it's about remaining calm under pressure, even in the face of diminishing radiance.

My vote for the "most abstruse conundrum-born conversational imbroglios" that haunt foral ravings are the phrases "diffraction limited", "acceptable sharpness", and "spectral aliasing".

:P
 
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