The return of the old guy.

[NCV]

I visited my dealers second-hand page this morning to see what is new on the used front. The good stuff disappears very rapidly.


Today there was a well-used Pentax SP1000, my first camera on sale that I bought in 1974 for €160, double the price of a Pentax K1000 on the same page.


My EM5 which is my current workhorse can now be had mint for €300.


I still have my old SP1000 partly for sentimental reasons, but at the current rate the “old guy” will soon be worth more than my EM5.


Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Prices of film cameras seem to be on the rise. You could not give them away a couple of years ago. Now some are getting quite expensive.







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[MShot]

Not as old as me...

 

[NCV]

Wow, that camera looks brand new.

 

[dmanthree]

I've been tempted to re-buy a copy of my first "serious" cam, a Nikomat. got one used for $20 in 1969. Loved it.

 

[MShot]

It came with good batteries and a fresh roll of film inside, and the 50mm f/1.4 lens. Private seller on EBAY, practically gave it away.

PENF. Unusual model. Amazing condition. Not a scratch on it.

 

[jeffharris]

I visited my dealers second-hand page this morning to see what is new on the used front. The good stuff disappears very rapidly.

Today there was a well-used Pentax SP1000, my first camera on sale that I bought in 1974 for €160, double the price of a Pentax K1000 on the same page.

My EM5 which is my current workhorse can now be had mint for €300.

I still have my old SP1000 partly for sentimental reasons, but at the current rate the “old guy” will soon be worth more than my EM5.

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Here in NYC you'll see a few younger people and hipsters carrying film cameras. Whether than constitutes an revival or SLR as jewelry is anyone's guess. ;-)

Prices of film cameras seem to be on the rise. You could not give them away a couple of years ago. Now some are getting quite expensive.

Cool. I inherited an Asahi Pentax Spotmatic SP II with a 50mm f1.4 SMC Takumar (fabulous lens!) and a 105mm f2.8 SMC Takumar.

My fave is a Nikon FM2n and a bunch of Nikon AI-S lenses (all sporting M4/3 lens adaptors ). Still have it, but haven't shot film in ages.

 

[dmanthree]

Here in NYC you'll see a few younger people and hipsters carrying film cameras. Whether than constitutes an revival or SLR as jewelry is anyone's guess.

Just another statement of some kind. Seriously, no photographer who needs to produce these days will shoot film, unless they are a very small niche provider. Nothing would get me back to film save for the occasional nostalgia.

 

[NCV]

Here in NYC you'll see a few younger people and hipsters carrying film cameras. Whether than constitutes an revival or SLR as jewelry is anyone's guess.

Just another statement of some kind. Seriously, no photographer who needs to produce these days will shoot film, unless they are a very small niche provider. Nothing would get me back to film save for the occasional nostalgia.

 

[Pixnat2]

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Possible.

The Vinyl Revival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival) was something unexpected that happened.

In the US, sales went from 1 million in 2007 to 14 millions in 2017. Suprisingly, more than half of the vinly buyers are young adults under 25. It's still a niche in the music market, but it's a true revival.

A similar tendency could well happen with photography, and recent prices hike of analog cameras (I've noticed it too) could be an indicator.

It would still be a niche market, but you're right, old stuff from the 70-80's could suddenly worth more than digital stuff from 5 years ago.

Interesting

 

[traveler_101]

Here in NYC you'll see a few younger people and hipsters carrying film cameras. Whether than constitutes an revival or SLR as jewelry is anyone's guess.

Just another statement of some kind. Seriously, no photographer who needs to produce these days will shoot film, unless they are a very small niche provider. Nothing would get me back to film save for the occasional nostalgia.

There are many people hanging on and there is a revival, but there is a question as to how deep and wide it goes. B&W film is still selling enough to keep producing and there has been talk of bringing back famous colour films as well.

I started a few years ago with film when I realised I could develop and scan myself and am getting deeper into it now. Just bought an enlarger and will start printing. Will see where it goes. It is time consuming to develop the film and then print on your own so this is not about convenience. It is about a kind of art form, I suppose.

 

[Jim Salvas]

A mechanical SLR like the SP1000 can be useful if you are going to be away from battery charging opportunities for a long while. The battery in many are used only to power the meter, which you can dispense with by knowing some basic settings for different light and leaning on the forgiving nature of B&W film.

Less practically, the old shutter sounds bring back memories.

 

[Gone for Good]

One of the last of the truly great German " tour de force" of machining. It still functions as the day my dad bought it ( the metering is off by 1/2 stop ).

http://cdelbert.zenfolio.com/

 

[Dr Hal]

My first good camera is this Kodak Retina IIIC which my Dad bought for me in 1956. It is still in good working order. I still love this camera. Until I got my first m43 camera which was a GF1, I never had a camera that I enjoyed as much as this Retina IIIC. Of all the cameras that I have owned, and there are many, the two most enjoyable ones were the Retina and the GF1.

 

[NCV]

Here in NYC you'll see a few younger people and hipsters carrying film cameras. Whether than constitutes an revival or SLR as jewelry is anyone's guess.

Just another statement of some kind. Seriously, no photographer who needs to produce these days will shoot film, unless they are a very small niche provider. Nothing would get me back to film save for the occasional nostalgia.

There are many people hanging on and there is a revival, but there is a question as to how deep and wide it goes. B&W film is still selling enough to keep producing and there has been talk of bringing back famous colour films as well.

I started a few years ago with film when I realised I could develop and scan myself and am getting deeper into it now. Just bought an enlarger and will start printing. Will see where it goes. It is time consuming to develop the film and then print on your own so this is not about convenience. It is about a kind of art form, I suppose.

I am tempted to get my 4x5 working again. It would be a scanned film routine for me I think.

Using the movements on this camera was great fun and the results were almost grain free.

 

[NCV]

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Possible.

The Vinyl Revival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival) was something unexpected that happened.

In the US, sales went from 1 million in 2007 to 14 millions in 2017. Suprisingly, more than half of the vinly buyers are young adults under 25. It's still a niche in the music market, but it's a true revival.

A similar tendency could well happen with photography, and recent prices hike of analog cameras (I've noticed it too) could be an indicator.

It would still be a niche market, but you're right, old stuff from the 70-80's could suddenly worth more than digital stuff from 5 years ago.

Interesting

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Frederic
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The vinyl record renaissance is a phenomenon I find difficult to understand as a consumer of these dammed things when they were the main support for music.


I remember in the eighties those horrible thinner than thin, often pre-warped records, that were just so easy to damage. I was glad to see them go to what I thought was the dustbin of history.

I bought a CD player the day after hearing one at a friend’s house. It was great to hear music without eggs frying in the background.


The Vinyl rebirth is born out of pure marketing hype. Just for starters you need a very good system to even attempt to hear any difference or the alleged “warmer” sound. God knows what one hears on the crappy record decks/amps I see being sold in our big box stores.

The problem with CD’s is the quality of the mastering. Some of the older remasters to CD were/are terrible.

I have it on good authority from a musical consultant to one of Italy’s leading Opera houses that the sound one gets from well mastered disks like those of ECM are much better than one can find on vinyl. The “warmer” vinyl sound is in fact distortion. In fact most new Jazz CD’s I buy have fantastic sound, the compressed loud sound on Pop CD’s is another thing, just deliberately poor mastering made for Low Fi sources.

Here is an interesting link.

With exception of large format film, I see little point in using film these days. I wish that I could have had a great digital camera when I took these shots . The freedom to shoot far more would have gotten me even more good pictures.

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[NCV]

Wonderful camera. I wonder if my EM5 will still be working in 60 years time

 

[MShot]

I like manual transmissions, manual chokes, self-winding mechanical watches.

Won't go without a smartphone though...

 

[James Stirling]

I visited my dealers second-hand page this morning to see what is new on the used front. The good stuff disappears very rapidly.

Today there was a well-used Pentax SP1000, my first camera on sale that I bought in 1974 for €160, double the price of a Pentax K1000 on the same page.

My EM5 which is my current workhorse can now be had mint for €300.

I still have my old SP1000 partly for sentimental reasons, but at the current rate the “old guy” will soon be worth more than my EM5.

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Prices of film cameras seem to be on the rise. You could not give them away a couple of years ago. Now some are getting quite expensive.



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http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/
https://momenti-indecisivi.blogspot.it/

At one time Pentax must have had a large share of beginners my first "real" camera was the K1000 , which was basically indestructible even in my clumsy mitts I loved its simplicity combined with just the three lenses a 28mm a 50mm and 135mm

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Jim Stirling
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” John Adams

 

[MShot]

If you don't use it. My EM-5 was repaired with less than 20K shutter actuations - under warranty. Replaced shutter and gear assembly.

How long will parts be available? Some Four Thirds can't be repaired now.

 

[Jim Salvas]

Wonderful camera. I wonder if my EM5 will still be working in 60 years time