The return of the old guy.

[MShot]

The electronics will way outlast the mechanicals

 

[RobbieBear]

Here in NYC you'll see a few younger people and hipsters carrying film cameras. Whether than constitutes an revival or SLR as jewelry is anyone's guess.

Just another statement of some kind. Seriously, no photographer who needs to produce these days will shoot film, unless they are a very small niche provider. Nothing would get me back to film save for the occasional nostalgia.

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Well I agree with you up to a certain point. I do not intend to return to film and I do not miss the smelly damp darkroom. I am quite happy of the digital copies I am making of my old B&W negatives.

With digital I can work with colour in a way that was impossible with darkroom colour.
But film has a certain look that might be important to some people working at the higher levels of photography. I believe Kenna still uses film and his prints that I saw recently in an exhibition are wonderful.

I wonder if, on the back of things like the LP revival, if a lot of younger people want to try out analogue photography to get away from the rather impersonal digital image or just as a cool fashion statement.

Was in a pub enjoying a meal with my family recently. Two tables away, sat two girls, probably about 18-20. I wouldn't normally notice this kind of thing....except one of them was loading a film into a Minolta XD7, a camera I shot with myself. I suppose she could have been doing a photography course or something but it just struck me as really unusual. I had the urge to say something, but quickly repressed it - an old guy striking up a conversation with two young girls might raise a few eyebrows!

A film capture/digital post process is quite interesting even to me.

One thing is clear, the price of analogue cameras seems to be on the rise. It might be the right moment to sell my darkroom equipment.

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[wrangler5]

A mechanical SLR like the SP1000 can be useful if you are going to be away from battery charging opportunities for a long while. < snip >

I made a remark like this a few years ago in a thread that was talking about going on safari or up the Amazon or some such. I was quickly corrected by a long-time professional photographer who said you can pack charged batteries and memory cards for tens of thousands of digital images in much less space than you can with film. And the digital stuff is much easier to keep waterproof, too.

This would certainly be true for cameras with optical viewfinders that only require battery power to run the meter and shutter, perhaps less so for mirrorless cameras that need to run screens all the time.

While the thought of personally buying 50 (say) OMD batteries would drive me out looking for another job, in the context of a trip up the Amazon it might be a trivial extra cost. Especially if you factor in the saving of film processing costs, and the ability to sell batteries and cards at the end of the trip.

 

[NCV]

I like manual transmissions, manual chokes, self-winding mechanical watches.

So do I for cars; far more fun to drive, But my Omega Speedmaster is more a question of male jewellery and the appreciation of fine engineering.


I have always had a bit of a hate thing against vinyl records. I bought lots of them and they were difficult to keep pristine.

Won't go without a smartphone though...

 

[RobbieBear]

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Possible.

The Vinyl Revival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival) was something unexpected that happened.

In the US, sales went from 1 million in 2007 to 14 millions in 2017. Suprisingly, more than half of the vinly buyers are young adults under 25. It's still a niche in the music market, but it's a true revival.

Have you seen the cost of new vinyl these days? At least double the price of CDs.

I have been into vinyl since my student days and still buy records. Back in the 80s I used to import Japanese records pressed on Virgin vinyl for about 15 each. Normal UK ones sold for about £4. Nowadays, an album will cost upwards of £20, often a lot more if you want a 180g audiophile pressing.

I passed up a chance to buy a boxed set of Weller at the BBC for £30. Aargh! That goes for well over £100 used - if you can find it!

A similar tendency could well happen with photography, and recent prices hike of analog cameras (I've noticed it too) could be an indicator.

It would still be a niche market, but you're right, old stuff from the 70-80's could suddenly worth more than digital stuff from 5 years ago.

Interesting

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Cheers,
Frederic
http://www.azurphoto.com/

 

[NCV]

A mechanical SLR like the SP1000 can be useful if you are going to be away from battery charging opportunities for a long while. The battery in many are used only to power the meter, which you can dispense with by knowing some basic settings for different light and leaning on the forgiving nature of B&W film.

Less practically, the old shutter sounds bring back memories.

 

[RobbieBear]

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Possible.

The Vinyl Revival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival) was something unexpected that happened.

In the US, sales went from 1 million in 2007 to 14 millions in 2017. Suprisingly, more than half of the vinly buyers are young adults under 25. It's still a niche in the music market, but it's a true revival.

A similar tendency could well happen with photography, and recent prices hike of analog cameras (I've noticed it too) could be an indicator.

It would still be a niche market, but you're right, old stuff from the 70-80's could suddenly worth more than digital stuff from 5 years ago.

Interesting

--
Cheers,
Frederic
http://www.azurphoto.com/

The vinyl record renaissance is a phenomenon I find difficult to understand as a consumer of these dammed things when they were the main support for music.

I remember in the eighties those horrible thinner than thin, often pre-warped records, that were just so easy to damage. I was glad to see them go to what I thought was the dustbin of history.

I bought a CD player the day after hearing one at a friend’s house. It was great to hear music without eggs frying in the background.

I have a pretty good turntable. I also have quite a decent CD player. Occasionally, I will invite friends round for a vinyl session. I have quite a few records that are duplicated on CD. Without exception, everyone prefers the sound of the record being played on the turntable to the CD.

The Vinyl rebirth is born out of pure marketing hype.

You need to have a listen some time.

Just for starters you need a very good system

I would pit a £1000 turntable against a £1000 CD player any day.

to even attempt to hear any difference or the alleged “warmer” sound. God knows what one hears on the crappy record decks/amps I see being sold in our big box stores.

The problem with CD’s is the quality of the mastering. Some of the older remasters to CD were/are terrible.

Yes, indeed.

I have it on good authority from a musical consultant to one of Italy’s leading Opera houses that the sound one gets from well mastered disks like those of ECM are much better than one can find on vinyl. The “warmer” vinyl sound is in fact distortion. In fact most new Jazz CD’s I buy have fantastic sound,

Have a listen to a well pressed/recorded jazz album on vinyl, played on a decent turntable - you may be very surprised indeed.

the compressed loud sound on Pop CD’s is another thing, just deliberately poor mastering made for Low Fi sources.

Same goes for a lot of modern pop/rock on vinyl too.

Here is an interesting link.

With exception of large format film, I see little point in using film these days. I wish that I could have had a great digital camera when I took these shots . The freedom to shoot far more would have gotten me even more good pictures.

--
http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/
https://momenti-indecisivi.blogspot.it/

 

[RobbieBear]

I like manual transmissions, manual chokes, self-winding mechanical watches.

So do I for cars; far more fun to drive, But my Omega Speedmaster is more a question of male jewellery and the appreciation of fine engineering.

I have always had a bit of a hate thing against vinyl records. I bought lots of them and they were difficult to keep pristine.

Most of my vinyl is stored in VRP sleeves that I imported from the US.

A lot of damage is done to records simply pulling them in and out of a coarse cover.

Sadly, I have not seen them in years.

Won't go without a smartphone though...

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http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/
https://momenti-indecisivi.blogspot.it/

 

[will focus]

 

[jeffharris]

The vinyl record renaissance is a phenomenon I find difficult to understand as a consumer of these dammed things when they were the main support for music.

I remember in the eighties those horrible thinner than thin, often pre-warped records, that were just so easy to damage. I was glad to see them go to what I thought was the dustbin of history.

The thing that killed me about vinyl is I had a good turntable and cartridge and took extremely good care of my collection, but play a disc a few times and it started to sound like crap. I would replace worn out disks when they sounded terrible.

I bought a CD player the day after hearing one at a friend’s house. It was great to hear music without eggs frying in the background.

Funny, but I never heard scratches and pops listening to music at Boston's Symphony Hall or Carnegie Hall or the Metropolitan Opera house.

Same here. I bought a CD player very early on… 1985, I think. The selection of available CDs was thin, with often mediocre performances/performers (Classical) and way overpriced. Funny how the prices never really went down.

The Vinyl rebirth is born out of pure marketing hype. Just for starters you need a very good system to even attempt to hear any difference or the alleged “warmer” sound. God knows what one hears on the crappy record decks/amps I see being sold in our big box stores.

Most consumer "hi-fi" gear is garbage, unless you're willing to spend a bit more, not crazy amounts, but you've got to now how to listen. Most people haven't a clue what unamplified music sounds like. Go to a pop (in the broadest sense) concert and you're listening to a huge PA system, NOT the musicians.

The problem with CD’s is the quality of the mastering. Some of the older remasters to CD were/are terrible.

That's why there were so many re-issues of re-issues. You couldn't just hit Play and Record and get decent sound. It took a while for engineers to learn how to remaster from analogue tape to CD and not have them sound like hell.

I have it on good authority from a musical consultant to one of Italy’s leading Opera houses that the sound one gets from well mastered disks like those of ECM are much better than one can find on vinyl. The “warmer” vinyl sound is in fact distortion. In fact most new Jazz CD’s I buy have fantastic sound…

I listen to mostly "classical" music (in the broadest sense) and there are lots of excellent small labels, too. I still buy CDs. It's tough finding digital files with a decent sampling rate. I rip CDs with Apple Lossless.

the compressed loud sound on Pop CD’s is another thing, just deliberately poor mastering made for Low Fi sources.

It's always been that way, whether vinyl, tape or CD. For the US market, record companies would purposely boost the bass for our Philistine tastes.

Here is an interesting link.

With exception of large format film, I see little point in using film these days. I wish that I could have had a great digital camera when I took these shots . The freedom to shoot far more would have gotten me even more good pictures.

One of the best things about digital is the freedom to make mistakes. But in a sense, that freedom is also it's biggest curse.

 

[NCV]

The vinyl record renaissance is a phenomenon I find difficult to understand as a consumer of these dammed things when they were the main support for music.

I remember in the eighties those horrible thinner than thin, often pre-warped records, that were just so easy to damage. I was glad to see them go to what I thought was the dustbin of history.

The thing that killed me about vinyl is I had a good turntable and cartridge and took extremely good care of my collection, but play a disc a few times and it started to sound like crap. I would replace worn out disks when they sounded terrible.

Remember the fear of lending records to friends?

I bought a CD player the day after hearing one at a friend’s house. It was great to hear music without eggs frying in the background.

Funny, but I never heard scratches and pops listening to music at Boston's Symphony Hall or Carnegie Hall or the Metropolitan Opera house.

Same here. I bought a CD player very early on… 1985, I think. The selection of available CDs was thin, with often mediocre performances/performers (Classical) and way overpriced. Funny how the prices never really went down.

The Vinyl rebirth is born out of pure marketing hype. Just for starters you need a very good system to even attempt to hear any difference or the alleged “warmer” sound. God knows what one hears on the crappy record decks/amps I see being sold in our big box stores.

Most consumer "hi-fi" gear is garbage, unless you're willing to spend a bit more, not crazy amounts, but you've got to now how to listen. Most people haven't a clue what unamplified music sounds like. Go to a pop (in the broadest sense) concert and you're listening to a huge PA system, NOT the musicians.

I was the photographer for our theatre for some years. Classical and Opera are of course “un amplified”, whilst jazz was always amplified. The amps and speakers were not what one would call “esoteric” Hi Fi.


I can understand the striving for perfect sound when dealing with classical music and perhaps jazz, but with amplified music such as pop and rock I wonder what sound you are actually chasing, as the performed version of this music is transmitted to the audience with just about Hi Fi equipment.

Changing my amp when I bought a Quad Pre and post amp made the biggest difference to me. I already had good speakers.

The problem with CD’s is the quality of the mastering. Some of the older remasters to CD were/are terrible.

That's why there were so many re-issues of re-issues. You couldn't just hit Play and Record and get decent sound. It took a while for engineers to learn how to remaster from analogue tape to CD and not have them sound like hell.

I have it on good authority from a musical consultant to one of Italy’s leading Opera houses that the sound one gets from well mastered disks like those of ECM are much better than one can find on vinyl. The “warmer” vinyl sound is in fact distortion. In fact most new Jazz CD’s I buy have fantastic sound…

I listen to mostly "classical" music (in the broadest sense) and there are lots of excellent small labels, too. I still buy CDs. It's tough finding digital files with a decent sampling rate. I rip CDs with Apple Lossless.

ECM have good sound engineering.

the compressed loud sound on Pop CD’s is another thing, just deliberately poor mastering made for Low Fi sources.

It's always been that way, whether vinyl, tape or CD. For the US market, record companies would purposely boost the bass for our Philistine tastes.

Here is an interesting link.

With exception of large format film, I see little point in using film these days. I wish that I could have had a great digital camera when I took these shots . The freedom to shoot far more would have gotten me even more good pictures.

One of the best things about digital is the freedom to make mistakes. But in a sense, that freedom is also it's biggest curse.

 

[NCV]

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Possible.

The Vinyl Revival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival) was something unexpected that happened.

In the US, sales went from 1 million in 2007 to 14 millions in 2017. Suprisingly, more than half of the vinly buyers are young adults under 25. It's still a niche in the music market, but it's a true revival.

A similar tendency could well happen with photography, and recent prices hike of analog cameras (I've noticed it too) could be an indicator.

It would still be a niche market, but you're right, old stuff from the 70-80's could suddenly worth more than digital stuff from 5 years ago.

Interesting

 

[RobbieBear]

The vinyl record renaissance is a phenomenon I find difficult to understand as a consumer of these dammed things when they were the main support for music.

I remember in the eighties those horrible thinner than thin, often pre-warped records, that were just so easy to damage. I was glad to see them go to what I thought was the dustbin of history.

The thing that killed me about vinyl is I had a good turntable and cartridge and took extremely good care of my collection, but play a disc a few times and it started to sound like crap. I would replace worn out disks when they sounded terrible.

Remember the fear of lending records to friends?

That's a big No,No! Never did, never will!

I bought a CD player the day after hearing one at a friend’s house. It was great to hear music without eggs frying in the background.

Funny, but I never heard scratches and pops listening to music at Boston's Symphony Hall or Carnegie Hall or the Metropolitan Opera house.

Same here. I bought a CD player very early on… 1985, I think. The selection of available CDs was thin, with often mediocre performances/performers (Classical) and way overpriced. Funny how the prices never really went down.

The Vinyl rebirth is born out of pure marketing hype. Just for starters you need a very good system to even attempt to hear any difference or the alleged “warmer” sound. God knows what one hears on the crappy record decks/amps I see being sold in our big box stores.

Most consumer "hi-fi" gear is garbage, unless you're willing to spend a bit more, not crazy amounts, but you've got to now how to listen. Most people haven't a clue what unamplified music sounds like. Go to a pop (in the broadest sense) concert and you're listening to a huge PA system, NOT the musicians.

I was the photographer for our theatre for some years. Classical and Opera are of course “un amplified”, whilst jazz was always amplified. The amps and speakers were not what one would call “esoteric” Hi Fi.

I can understand the striving for perfect sound when dealing with classical music and perhaps jazz, but with amplified music such as pop and rock I wonder what sound you are actually chasing, as the performed version of this music is transmitted to the audience with just about Hi Fi equipment.

But, the performed version of the music is not the same as the recorded version of the music.

Most modern pop does not work well on vinyl, especially using a decent rig as you only expose the shortcomings of bad recordings.

A lot is, as another poster said, produced so that bass is boosted and treble is emphasised - not a good sound through good equipment.

Changing my amp when I bought a Quad Pre and post amp made the biggest difference to me. I already had good speakers.

Had the Quad 44 / 405 combo as a student. Made great sound in my student room fed by an Ariston RD80, my first turntable.

I firmly believe in the principle of GIGO (Garbage in , garbage out) so no matter how good an amp and speakers are, its the quality of the source that matters.

The problem with CD’s is the quality of the mastering. Some of the older remasters to CD were/are terrible.

That's why there were so many re-issues of re-issues. You couldn't just hit Play and Record and get decent sound. It took a while for engineers to learn how to remaster from analogue tape to CD and not have them sound like hell.

I have it on good authority from a musical consultant to one of Italy’s leading Opera houses that the sound one gets from well mastered disks like those of ECM are much better than one can find on vinyl. The “warmer” vinyl sound is in fact distortion. In fact most new Jazz CD’s I buy have fantastic sound…

I listen to mostly "classical" music (in the broadest sense) and there are lots of excellent small labels, too. I still buy CDs. It's tough finding digital files with a decent sampling rate. I rip CDs with Apple Lossless.

ECM have good sound engineering.

the compressed loud sound on Pop CD’s is another thing, just deliberately poor mastering made for Low Fi sources.

It's always been that way, whether vinyl, tape or CD. For the US market, record companies would purposely boost the bass for our Philistine tastes.

Here is an interesting link.

With exception of large format film, I see little point in using film these days. I wish that I could have had a great digital camera when I took these shots . The freedom to shoot far more would have gotten me even more good pictures.

One of the best things about digital is the freedom to make mistakes. But in a sense, that freedom is also it's biggest curse.

--
http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/
https://momenti-indecisivi.blogspot.it/

 

[RobbieBear]

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Possible.

The Vinyl Revival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival) was something unexpected that happened.

In the US, sales went from 1 million in 2007 to 14 millions in 2017. Suprisingly, more than half of the vinly buyers are young adults under 25. It's still a niche in the music market, but it's a true revival.

A similar tendency could well happen with photography, and recent prices hike of analog cameras (I've noticed it too) could be an indicator.

It would still be a niche market, but you're right, old stuff from the 70-80's could suddenly worth more than digital stuff from 5 years ago.

Interesting

--
Cheers,
Frederic
http://www.azurphoto.com/

The vinyl record renaissance is a phenomenon I find difficult to understand as a consumer of these dammed things when they were the main support for music.

I remember in the eighties those horrible thinner than thin, often pre-warped records, that were just so easy to damage. I was glad to see them go to what I thought was the dustbin of history.

I bought a CD player the day after hearing one at a friend’s house. It was great to hear music without eggs frying in the background.

I have a pretty good turntable. I also have quite a decent CD player. Occasionally, I will invite friends round for a vinyl session. I have quite a few records that are duplicated on CD. Without exception, everyone prefers the sound of the record being played on the turntable to the CD.

depends on the records you are comparing. A lot of Mastering of "old" albums is rather grim.

Indeed it does. I recently picked up a copy of King Crimson's "In the Court of the Crimson King." The musiv is great but the SQ is grim.

The Vinyl rebirth is born out of pure marketing hype.

You need to have a listen some time.

I have and do listen to my vinyl now and again

I love it. Settling down to a vinyl session with a nice single malt when the wife and kids are in bed.

Just for starters you need a very good system

I would pit a £1000 turntable against a £1000 CD player any day.

I have a good turntable/cartridge and a good CD player. The speakers make the biggest difference.

The speakers make the biggest difference to the character of the sound, but not to things like detail, instrument separation/placement in the sound stage. That improves as the soure improves.

to even attempt to hear any difference or the alleged “warmer” sound. God knows what one hears on the crappy record decks/amps I see being sold in our big box stores.

The problem with CD’s is the quality of the mastering. Some of the older remasters to CD were/are terrible.

Yes, indeed.

I have it on good authority from a musical consultant to one of Italy’s leading Opera houses that the sound one gets from well mastered disks like those of ECM are much better than one can find on vinyl. The “warmer” vinyl sound is in fact distortion. In fact most new Jazz CD’s I buy have fantastic sound,

Have a listen to a well pressed/recorded jazz album on vinyl, played on a decent turntable - you may be very surprised indeed.

the compressed loud sound on Pop CD’s is another thing, just deliberately poor mastering made for Low Fi sources.

Same goes for a lot of modern pop/rock on vinyl too.

Here is an interesting link.

With exception of large format film, I see little point in using film these days. I wish that I could have had a great digital camera when I took these shots . The freedom to shoot far more would have gotten me even more good pictures.

--
http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/
https://momenti-indecisivi.blogspot.it/

I believe the differences are born in the mastering studio. ECM sound recordings are a good measure of what can be done with CD.

It is worth remembering that jazz and rock concerts are relayed to the audience through less than perfect amps and speakers. Having seen and heard first hand the sound gear used for amplified music, some of the discourse on esoteric hi fi when used for amplified music makes me scratch my head a little.

--
http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/
https://momenti-indecisivi.blogspot.it/

 

[Pixnat2]

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Possible.

The Vinyl Revival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival) was something unexpected that happened.

In the US, sales went from 1 million in 2007 to 14 millions in 2017. Suprisingly, more than half of the vinly buyers are young adults under 25. It's still a niche in the music market, but it's a true revival.

A similar tendency could well happen with photography, and recent prices hike of analog cameras (I've noticed it too) could be an indicator.

It would still be a niche market, but you're right, old stuff from the 70-80's could suddenly worth more than digital stuff from 5 years ago.

Interesting

 

[HRC2016]

Why is this in the m43 forum?

 

[NCV]

Why is this in the m43 forum?

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I believe in science, evolution and light. All opinions are my own. I'm not compensated for any of my posts. Can you honestly say that?

Why not?

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https://momenti-indecisivi.blogspot.it/

 

[NCV]

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Possible.

The Vinyl Revival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival) was something unexpected that happened.

In the US, sales went from 1 million in 2007 to 14 millions in 2017. Suprisingly, more than half of the vinly buyers are young adults under 25. It's still a niche in the music market, but it's a true revival.

A similar tendency could well happen with photography, and recent prices hike of analog cameras (I've noticed it too) could be an indicator.

It would still be a niche market, but you're right, old stuff from the 70-80's could suddenly worth more than digital stuff from 5 years ago.

Interesting

 

[RobbieBear]

Am I right in thinking that there is a certain revival of analogue photography?

Possible.

The Vinyl Revival (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival) was something unexpected that happened.

In the US, sales went from 1 million in 2007 to 14 millions in 2017. Suprisingly, more than half of the vinly buyers are young adults under 25. It's still a niche in the music market, but it's a true revival.

A similar tendency could well happen with photography, and recent prices hike of analog cameras (I've noticed it too) could be an indicator.

It would still be a niche market, but you're right, old stuff from the 70-80's could suddenly worth more than digital stuff from 5 years ago.

Interesting

--
Cheers,
Frederic
http://www.azurphoto.com/

The vinyl record renaissance is a phenomenon I find difficult to understand as a consumer of these dammed things when they were the main support for music.

I remember in the eighties those horrible thinner than thin, often pre-warped records, that were just so easy to damage. I was glad to see them go to what I thought was the dustbin of history.

I bought a CD player the day after hearing one at a friend’s house. It was great to hear music without eggs frying in the background.

The Vinyl rebirth is born out of pure marketing hype. Just for starters you need a very good system to even attempt to hear any difference or the alleged “warmer” sound. God knows what one hears on the crappy record decks/amps I see being sold in our big box stores.

The problem with CD’s is the quality of the mastering. Some of the older remasters to CD were/are terrible.

I have it on good authority from a musical consultant to one of Italy’s leading Opera houses that the sound one gets from well mastered disks like those of ECM are much better than one can find on vinyl. The “warmer” vinyl sound is in fact distortion. In fact most new Jazz CD’s I buy have fantastic sound, the compressed loud sound on Pop CD’s is another thing, just deliberately poor mastering made for Low Fi sources.

Here is an interesting link.

With exception of large format film, I see little point in using film these days. I wish that I could have had a great digital camera when I took these shots . The freedom to shoot far more would have gotten me even more good pictures.

--
http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/
https://momenti-indecisivi.blogspot.it/

I have no interest in vinyl nor in film photography.

It was just a general observation of two similar absurd tendencies, revival of old stuff for hipsters or nostalgics, which make prices of old outdated stuff suddenly rise and being more expensive than modern stuff.

I find this absolutely hilarious in the context of a gear forum where most call for constant updates

My record playing gear is neither old or outdated and believe me, I have a long way to go in my photo gear before it will have seen as many upgrades, tweaks and replacements as my vinyl rig has.

And yes, there are gear forums for vinyl addicts who get just as big bouts of GAS as we do on here - myself included as one of those.

--
Cheers,
Frederic
http://www.azurphoto.com/

 

[Jim Salvas]

The electronics will way outlast the mechanicals

Really? I have a 2012 MacBook which is toast just because the screen died and it costs too much to replace it. I also have an Olympus 4040 which is also a brick, but I keep it out of sentimentality.

On the old SLRs I own (and I own a LOT), what has gone first has been the electronics, especially the light meters.

Meanwhile, i have a perfectly functional Speed Graphic.