The Camera doesn't matter.

[Joachim Gerstl]

as long as it is a real camera.

http://www.littlebigtravelingcamera.com/?p=15429

not a phone.

Have a good day. Enjoy shooting.

 

[adam10]

I've read your blogs before and always found them very interesting - So thank you that. Yes, Fuji cameras are very tactile and great to use.

Joachim , Have you ever considered an X100V ?

I returned mine due to the camera getting warm and a noisy lens focus mechanism

I do however miss it to the point that I will buy another X100V.

Like your images.

Adam.

 

[jhorse]

as long as it is a real camera.

http://www.littlebigtravelingcamera.com/?p=15429

not a phone.

Have a good day. Enjoy shooting.

Point proven in spades!

 

[ddtan]

Of course, you are preaching to the choir. Any enthusiast who would follow this forum could easily agree, unfortunately, the vast not enthusiast public is totally satisfied with their phones. The new iPhone 12’s will further their attachment. In my case, I would contend that the camera does matter, which is why I use Fuji. I had a chance to play with my brother-in-laws Sony 7, and could not get the colors to be acceptable.

 

[jaberg]

Only the image matters.

Nice hit and run promoting your blog. I’m embarrassed to confess that I gave you the click because, despite some beautiful images, there’s nothing new said there. Just the same old bluster about “real” cameras.

I agree, that the camera doesn’t matter but firmly disagree with your segregation of cameras that happen to be in phones. I’ve made, and printed, beautiful, quality images from all sorts of cameras, including those that are also “handheld, multipurpose devices.”

Only the image matters.

 

[Raist3d]

as long as it is a real camera.

http://www.littlebigtravelingcamera.com/?p=15429

not a phone.

Have a good day. Enjoy shooting.

So, either the camera matters or it doesn't. I agree it doesn't matter- it's just a tool and an iphone has cameras.

https://www.ippawards.com

If iPhone was using for some published photos of Time Magazine during the Mitt Romney campaign back then, and that was with a far worse camera phone back then, just imagine what some are doing now.

Whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not is irrelevant because the evidence of what I said exists.

--
Raist3d/Ricardo (Photographer, software dev.)- I photograph black cats in coal mines at night...
“The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” - George Orwell

 

[Keithpictures]

*shot on iPhone

 

[lewiedude2]

I would love it if you posted some images directly into your posts. Thanks.

 

[klayking]

as long as it is a real camera.

http://www.littlebigtravelingcamera.com/?p=15429

not a phone.

Have a good day. Enjoy shooting.

So, either the camera matters or it doesn't. I agree it doesn't matter- it's just a tool and an iphone has cameras.

https://www.ippawards.com

If iPhone was using for some published photos of Time Magazine during the Mitt Romney campaign back then, and that was with a far worse camera phone back then, just imagine what some are doing now.

Whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not is irrelevant because the evidence of what I said exists.

Totally agree with you. These are great images and better... #3 and $5 are my favorite.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Joachim Gerstl]

I've read your blogs before and always found them very interesting - So thank you that. Yes, Fuji cameras are very tactile and great to use.

Joachim , Have you ever considered an X100V ?

I returned mine due to the camera getting warm and a noisy lens focus mechanism

I do however miss it to the point that I will buy another X100V.

Like your images.

Adam.

Hi Adam,

I have the X100F and I have no plans to upgrade. There is some noise from the lens but I love the camera. It's also the best social camera because of its lens and the integrated flash. It can get warm but I never shot it in hot climates like my X-Pro2.

My X-Pro2 can get really warm in hot climates like in India or in Arizona but it never shuts down, it always worked. Hope that helps.

 

[Toilet Roll]

I can see and understand the divide between those who say its only the image that matters but a phone is still a phone, with a camera.

Would you rather use a Swiss army knife to fillet a fish and chop vegetables or use a proper knife? Its the same thing here.

So, Im inclined to agree with the post and know one thing, my phone doesn't make me want to go out and take photos, my camera does.

 

[Mr Bolton]

as long as it is a real camera.

http://www.littlebigtravelingcamera.com/?p=15429

not a phone.

Have a good day. Enjoy shooting.

So, either the camera matters or it doesn't. I agree it doesn't matter- it's just a tool and an iphone has cameras.

https://www.ippawards.com

If iPhone was using for some published photos of Time Magazine during the Mitt Romney campaign back then, and that was with a far worse camera phone back then, just imagine what some are doing now.

Whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not is irrelevant because the evidence of what I said exists.

Totally agree with you. These are great images and better... #3 and $5 are my favorite.

Thanks for sharing.

Great images, and living proof that "the best camera is the one you've got with you."



But even a cursory inspection will reveal the noise and lower detail levels versus the pictures in the OP's blog, all shot with various real cameras.

The real camera pics are better. And yes, I say that as someone who's occasionally managed to capture something pretty good with a phone as well. If it's all you've got then it'll do.. but iPhone or Samsung S20.. still not the same as a real camera.

 

[bastibe]

The camera doesn't matter. Period.

Camera capabilities, however, do matter. A phone has a very limited focal range (50mm "tele", lol), and is quickly overwhelmed by noise. A 1" compact is more flexible, and can take many pictures a phone can't. ILCs offer wider-aperture lenses and ultimate choice in focal length, expanding capabilities even further.

Many of these shortcomings can be mitigated by software (blurred background, night mode, HDR), and many others by the user (zoom with your feet, composition, post processing).

But once you can get the shot, the camera does not matter.

 

[biza43]

I wish people would get over this silly debate. Of course the camera matters, because there are cameras that are more suitable to a specific job than others. If you ask a sports photographer to choose between a pro-sports camera or an entry level camera, which one do you think he will pick?

Of course for amateurs like us, we can get away with more flexibility in camera choice, because our demands are quite simple in comparison.

As for phones, again, silly debate. Smartphones are the top selling cameras, period.

 

[boogisha]

I can see and understand the divide between those who say its only the image that matters but a phone is still a phone, with a camera.

Would you rather use a Swiss army knife to fillet a fish and chop vegetables or use a proper knife? Its the same thing here.

Not the same, as if people can (and prefer, even) to use Swiss army knife to do the job (for whatever reason), and it works, that that is certainly good enough (for them), and all that should matter.

So, Im inclined to agree with the post and know one thing, my phone doesn't make me want to go out and take photos, my camera does.

Not to get me wrong, I agree with you completely (which is why I lug my camera around in the first place), but it`s not about the two of us, but the general majority - which largely uses phones.

Would a picture be better if it was taken with a dedicated (not to say "real") camera device? Most certainly - but only if the person taking the picture knows how to operate that dedicated camera to being with _and_ only if he would have the camera in a given situation. Photo not taken is still the worst one...

 

[Raist3d]

as long as it is a real camera.

http://www.littlebigtravelingcamera.com/?p=15429

not a phone.

Have a good day. Enjoy shooting.

So, either the camera matters or it doesn't. I agree it doesn't matter- it's just a tool and an iphone has cameras.

https://www.ippawards.com

If iPhone was using for some published photos of Time Magazine during the Mitt Romney campaign back then, and that was with a far worse camera phone back then, just imagine what some are doing now.

Whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not is irrelevant because the evidence of what I said exists.

Totally agree with you. These are great images and better... #3 and $5 are my favorite.

Thanks for sharing.

Great images, and living proof that "the best camera is the one you've got with you."

But even a cursory inspection will reveal the noise and lower detail levels versus the pictures in the OP's blog, all shot with various real cameras.

The real camera pics are better. And yes, I say that as someone who's occasionally managed to capture something pretty good with a phone as well. If it's all you've got then it'll do.. but iPhone or Samsung S20.. still not the same as a real camera.

Once again, it has a real camera. There's pros and cons- a big win for the iPhone is the workflow for sharing. These are all tools with pros and cons.

Like I said, iPhone has several full pages on Time Magazine *published professional* photos, by the long time politics photographer that followed Mitt Romney back then. He has mentioned the iPhone made for a very discreet camera.

That was with a camera *sevearl generations* back well before dual/tri camera iPhones.

Again, all of these are different cameras, different tools and they have pros and cons. It has a real camera.

--
Raist3d/Ricardo (Photographer, software dev.)- I photograph black cats in coal mines at night...
“The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” - George Orwell

 

[Keithpictures]

Here’s a more poetic take on what a camera is:

https://link.medium.com/BY233hYUCab

1. the shot / shooting experience

2. ready to shoot /settings

3. something carried around

4. a gadget in the house

5. the file / post-production

We think mostly about #1 and #5, and a bit about #2, and that is valid - they’re most important. But not everything.

Curious what this might add

--
https://www.instagram.com/keithpictures/

 

[JayPhizzt]

I've never fully agreed with this statement. The gear generally doesn't matter to the viewer, but it can definitely matter to the photographer and what you're shooting and the results you want to achieve.

For image quality the lens matters more than the camera. I think the camera matters more in terms of ergonomics and user experience.

A better camera can of course give you better noise performance, more dynamic range, higher resolution and a better lens can give you better sharpness, more contrast, nicer bokeh etc. All these things can definitely matter in the hands of a capable photographer who knows how to use the gear and can utilise it's potential. If you however don't know how to use the gear, it won't matter.

I don't quite agree with the statement "the best camera is the one you have with you" either. I'd rather say the best camera CAN be the one you have with you. A smartphone for example won't have the best image quality and is limited in many ways and if I can't get the results I want I'd rather not take the shot at all. On top of that I find smartphones completely unenjoyable and clunky to shoot with.

 

[dual12]

The camera totally matters. If I don't like a camera, I won't shoot with it. Life is too short.

 

[Joachim Gerstl]

Of course, you are preaching to the choir. Any enthusiast who would follow this forum could easily agree, unfortunately, the vast not enthusiast public is totally satisfied with their phones. The new iPhone 12’s will further their attachment. In my case, I would contend that the camera does matter, which is why I use Fuji. I had a chance to play with my brother-in-laws Sony 7, and could not get the colors to be acceptable.

II agree, in a couple of years from now cameras will be as exotic as tripods are already today. And I agree regarding Sony. I owned a A7R but only for about a year. Too much work to make the pictures work. With balance and colours were off and my photos needed a lot of post processing.