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I am aware of the classes of SD cards so far from what I have read suggests using class 10.. I went into my local computer store to pick up some cards, they asked what I was using it for.. I told them shooting raw photo's he then said class is for video you need speed and started showing me $80+ cards cards.

Can I get some advice, I am still starting out and getting to know my cannon 60D. I know speed is important with raw format but if I am not doing burst will it make that much if a difference.. I can get 8gb class 10 for about $12 or high speed for $80+

I am looking at getting a 3-4 8gb cards in case I lose one then I don't lose that many photos.

Any help would be great
 
I don't know where you are, but in my experience, memory cards are cheaper online. I went into a best buy once and saw the SanDisc Extreme Pro 32gb card for $176 USD. I got the exact same card from B&H online for $60. Right now you can get the SanDisc Ultra 16gb class 10 cards there for $15. It isn't that you need a fast card that costs $80 so much as it is that store was probably selling their cards at a high mark-up... You don't really need the fast cards, SanDisc Extreme cards are generally fast enough and should be about $20 for 16gb.

I only have two cards, but I've gotten in the habit of putting all my photos on an external hardrive at the end of the day no matter how much I've shot. But having some extra back-up cards is never a problem.
 
Thanks for the advice.. yeah BB was high here in Alberta at Memory express they wated to sell the expensive cards.. I figured it was something along those lines of selling the high marked up cards.
 
I just went through this, and I bought 2 16g Sandisk Extreme Pros from Amazon for not quite $40 each.

It's hard to figure out what the numbers associated with SD cards mean, and what they are, and some of them are not easy to find. The size is self-explanatory, but Class 10, or worse, 100x, are not explained as real-world numbers. Both relate either to the speed that the card can be written to, or the speed it can be read from. The card often has the read speed written on the front; the read speed is usually higher, but it's less important.

Class 10 is an arbitrary cutoff where the card is adequate for video. So, it means something like "at least 10 mb/sec write speed." I'm not sure it's 10mb/sec, but it's in that neighborhood.

100x or whatever is a comparison to old hard drives that wrote at 150kb/sec, so 66x is roughly equivalent to the 10mb/sec write speed of a low-end Class 10 card.

When you take pictures, the picture data is stored in your camera's cache as quickly as you take them, and written as quickly as the camera and card can manage. Imagine that the pictures are water pouring into a bucket. The pictures stop altogether when the bucket is full, and the bucket is being emptied through a hose into a much larger tank. The bucket is the camera's cache (which is bigger for better cameras) and the hose is the write speed of the card. If the write speed is higher, the hose is thicker and the water empties faster. That means that you can get more water, more pictures, into the bucket before it fills, and that even when the bucket is full, you can keep adding pictures at a higher speed (but a slower speed than when the bucket is empty.) In this analogy, the size of the SD card is the holding tank.

With my new Sandisk Extreme Pro (claimed write speed of 90 mb/sec), my Sony a77 drops from about 8 frames per second of high-quality JPEGs to less than 2 after about two seconds. The 2 fps speed is the water emptying from the bucket through the hose; it's the speed that the camera can write to the card. If I have an older 30 mb/sec card in the camera, it manages about one frame per second, like the hose is slower so it takes longer to empty the full bucket enough for each successive shot. If I shoot in raw, the numbers are a lot lower, because raw files are bigger, so it takes fewer to fill the cache and more time to write each one.

Note that my older card is still Class 10, and both cards are far in excess of the cutoff to be Class 10. I decided to buy the top-of-the-line cards because I shoot sports and I often need a high frame rate and a short time to clear the cache. If I shot landscapes, it wouldn't matter at all. If I shot video, I'd need a card that wrote at least as fast as the video came in, but that is a lot less data than when I fill up the card with pictures. The video can still be viewed as water pouring into a bucket. In that case, the emptying hose (card write speed) has to be at least as fast as the water is pouring in, but it won't help anything if it is much faster, and even if it is a little slower, the bucket will fill up over time and overflow. I don't shoot much video, so I don't know how fast you need, but in theory the Class 10 number is the cutoff for shooting high-def video.


I hope that helps.

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Take a look at B&H if you aren't familiar with them. They ship to Canada, though I'm not sure what duties and taxes would be. They're in New York, so it doesn't have to go as far as it would from Texas or California...
 
I just suggest when you compare look at the actual read and write speed. Class 10 is an old specification and is quite slow relative to today's specs. class 10 means 10mbps technically and modern cards are in the 30 to 150 range.

It also depends on your camera. A t2i takes any speed just about wheras a d800 chokes on slow cards.

Also most cards will work fine it depends on what you are using them for. If its a lanscape shot and you have all the time in the world taking half a second longer for the buffer to clear means nothing. You could get one fast card and 3 slower.

The one other thing is future cameras. Future cameras will need bigger faster cards. If you get bottom specd cards now and a demanding camera later then your cards will be useless sooner.
 
Ganther1 wrote:

I am aware of the classes of SD cards so far from what I have read suggests using class 10.. I went into my local computer store to pick up some cards, they asked what I was using it for.. I told them shooting raw photo's he then said class is for video you need speed and started showing me $80+ cards cards.

Can I get some advice, I am still starting out and getting to know my cannon 60D. I know speed is important with raw format but if I am not doing burst will it make that much if a difference.. I can get 8gb class 10 for about $12 or high speed for $80+

I am looking at getting a 3-4 8gb cards in case I lose one then I don't lose that many photos.

Any help would be great
I have 60D and in the beginning I've been using it with class 4 (Sandisk VideoHD card and Sandisk Ultra 2) It still works fine for video even though according to Canon manual said Class 6 to be OK for HD video. At the moment I use Sandisk Extreme 30MB/S, it doesn't make any difference.

The thing is, Canon 60D can only write with maximum speed around 20MB/s. So even with faster card, it won't be able to take any benefit of it.. except that you can download your picture faster if you use it with fast card reader.

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Thanks that is one of the easiest discriptons to under stand that I have heard.., Mostly land scape and nature shots right now..
 
Hi Denny

Thanks did not realize that the 60d writes at 20mb/s, so going for a faster write speed may be a waste of money.

Again thanks everyone for the info..
 
Ganther1 wrote:

Hi Denny

Thanks did not realize that the 60d writes at 20mb/s, so going for a faster write speed may be a waste of money.

Again thanks everyone for the info..
Yes, that's what I read recently.. only some new model has higher write speed around 30-40MB/s such as 700D. It's maybe related with the use of Digic5
 
Ganther1 wrote:

I am aware of the classes of SD cards so far from what I have read suggests using class 10.. I went into my local computer store to pick up some cards, they asked what I was using it for.. I told them shooting raw photo's he then said class is for video you need speed and started showing me $80+ cards cards.

Can I get some advice, I am still starting out and getting to know my cannon 60D. I know speed is important with raw format but if I am not doing burst will it make that much if a difference.. I can get 8gb class 10 for about $12 or high speed for $80+

I am looking at getting a 3-4 8gb cards in case I lose one then I don't lose that many photos.

Any help would be great
The SD interface in your 60D is NOT capable of transferring data faster than about 21 MB/s.

Buy a Class 10 card with a rating of 30 MB/s or 45 MB/s like the SanDisk Ultra 16 GB SDHC Class 10 Flash Memory Card 30MB/s or SanDisk Extreme 16 GB SDHC Class 10 UHS-1 Flash Memory Card 45MB/s

Going with 80 MB/s or 95 MB/s cards wont do much other than lighten your wallet.
 
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That is VERY good advice TT and I agree completely. Matter of fact Im gonna order the first one for 14 bucks. Why because you can never have to many cards (sorta) and its a great price 30mb/s is plenty fast enough for me! Thanks for the concise post.
 

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