Teesid Asawakittikorn
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Can S200EXR use exr sensor ability(like set EXR - D-RANGE PRIORITY to 800% in full manual mode) in P A S M ?
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S200exr - 3 EXR mode
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Kim Letkeman
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Unlikely ... I own the F70EXR and DR800 is only available in EXR DR mode ... and it fixes ISO to 200. M and P modes allow DR to be set to 100 / 200 / 400 ... when shooting in L size, the DR is done in software ... when shooting in M size, the DR is done in hardware ...
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Adam-T
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It shouldn't be connected to the shutter / aperture priority modes though Kim. the F70 and F200 are P&S cams really (with an apathetic nod towards manual control) whereas the S200 is a full featured and expensive Bridge cam .. there is no reason why the S200 shouldn't be usable in EXR modes in all the PASM modes and if fuji have stopped that then they need a good Kicking as they're crippling the EXR features which make set the cam above the FZs, SXs etc ..
but you never know, the Canon 5D Mk1 has Auto ISO in Full Auto but there's no option for it in P or any of the manual modes which is quite frankly stupid as the cam is almost as clean as a Nikon D700 and good enough to let run free across the ISO range . Japanese camera maker logic never ceases to amaze me.
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Teesid Asawakittikorn
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Anyone else? I need to be sure before I get one.
Kim Letkeman
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DR modes are connected to settings. I don't remember saying anything about them being connected to shutter or aperture prio modes.
Hardly apathetic. The aperture is similar to that used in most pocketable cams these days ... 2 levels. That does not, however, limit the value of manual mode, as fixing the shutter is critical for shooting concerts etc.
The only EXR mode that interests me is the hardware DR, which is usable in all modes. The DR800 is such a stretch in exposures (3 stops between the two halves of the sensor) that ISO is fixed to 200 and that limits the modes it can be used in. I suppose that they could have made it available in manual mode, but the fixed ISO and limited aperture would make it rather inflexible anyway. Better to select it in EXR DR and let the camera do what it can ...
I am happy to let ISO float on a compact when shooting snaps. Only for specialized circumstances like concerts do I take full control. Of course, once one learns how a camera shoots in auto, one basically exercises full control through compensation, which is thankfully very accessible though a button on the F70.
I shoot my dSLRs in A-prio or M and I never let ISO float. So issues with auto ISO have never bothered me.
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Adam-T
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no but it was what the OP was asking and was his only concern
Good, the OP has his answer
so it'll work in A and S modes then? - I'm sure anyone would be happy with this
same here so long as it can be capped such as Auto 400 and 800 with the F200 .
same with the F200 , always live compensation on a dial would have been nice but you cab't have it all - it was buried in the menus on the F10, 11, 20, 40, 45, 100 ..
I mentioned it because the 5D Mk1 only natively goes to 1600 and the thing is that clean that you could let it float anywhere without issue, other cams with complex Auto ISO systems like the A100 and K10 are comparitively noisy as hell - Typical ......
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Kim Letkeman
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No ... DR800 is selectable in EXR DR mode only. That's why I mentioned that the camera might as well handle it because of all the caveats on its use.
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Adam-T
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Yeah Get it now - EXR is on the same Dial as PASM - Rather silly of Fuji that one, I'd want to use EXR DR mode with full control of the Aperture and shutter Priority modes on a Bridge cam like the S200 even if it did insist on choosing the ISO or setting it to Auto400 ..
So Basically it would seem that the S200 is a Crippled S100 in one mode (a lesser sensor with less wide and a lesser body - for full rez mode) and Full Auto in its most useful DR mode, not good..
I can accept the P&S in DR modes with cams like the F200 and F70 but not in a bridge cam ... I'm wondering that now they've given an EXR cam RAW, when will the 200 and 70 get it ;-0
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... No. You can only set DR 800% in DR mode.
What it is doing, at 800%, is using a combination of software and hardware to achieve this result. This is why it defaults to ISO 200 for 800 %.
The real question though is, why would you want to use DR 800% ?
I have the F200 EXR (same sensor) and find that DR 200 % in P mode, is not that indistinguishable from using DR mode and DR 800 %. In fact, I really, really struggle to see any difference. Apart from more 'clumpy' noise and less contrast in full DR mode, I certainly prefer full-res and DR 200%. Colour (chroma) noise is about the same in either mode.
The point is that the EXR sensor delivers excellent DR, even in it's native mode.
Some talk about the sensor being 'crippled' to only operate at half resolution. What a load of BS.
The sensor delivers excellent DR (much more than others) even in it's lower DR modes. E.g., P, SN, HR, modes.
You will find that DR, irrespective of mode, is far greater than the majority of cameras out and about.
Have a look at the two images, in the following link, and you can see what the difference between the two modes are. One is at DR200%, the other at DR800%.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=33471619
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What it is doing, at 800%, is using a combination of software and hardware to achieve this result. This is why it defaults to ISO 200 for 800 %.
The real question though is, why would you want to use DR 800% ?
I have the F200 EXR (same sensor) and find that DR 200 % in P mode, is not that indistinguishable from using DR mode and DR 800 %. In fact, I really, really struggle to see any difference. Apart from more 'clumpy' noise and less contrast in full DR mode, I certainly prefer full-res and DR 200%. Colour (chroma) noise is about the same in either mode.
The point is that the EXR sensor delivers excellent DR, even in it's native mode.
Some talk about the sensor being 'crippled' to only operate at half resolution. What a load of BS.
The sensor delivers excellent DR (much more than others) even in it's lower DR modes. E.g., P, SN, HR, modes.
You will find that DR, irrespective of mode, is far greater than the majority of cameras out and about.
Have a look at the two images, in the following link, and you can see what the difference between the two modes are. One is at DR200%, the other at DR800%.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=33471619
Cheers.
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Have fun - take lotsa pix.
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