R5 Mk II Macro flash Single shot / flash focus bracketing Settings

[RAWInstincts]

Hi all,

Just wanting to get a feel for macro settings used for flash bracketing on the R5 Mk2 with the RF 100 f/2.8mm macro lens with the Godox V860 Mk 2

Do you use Mechanical or Electronic shutter for a single shot macro with flash?

Do you use Mechanical or Electronic shutter for the flash focus bracketing?

For single shot do you use H+ or H in case the subject takes off for example (and flash be combined with the use of Pre-capture?)

Interestingly, I briefly tried the Electronic shutter with my mates V3 Godox V860 flash to test it, and I had to lower the shutter speed to 1/120th - any faster i.e. at 1/160th as per Canon manual for ES and I had a horizontal black line across the image that covered around 5-10%.

What focus increment do you use?

Aperture / ISO? (I was thinking f/8.0 to f/11 for single shot and f/5.6 to f/8.0 for focus bracketing with ISO 200)

Any other tips and advise relating to this specific setup?

Thank you

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[R2D2]

Hi all,

Just wanting to get a feel for macro settings used for flash bracketing on the R5 Mk2 with the RF 100 f/2.8mm macro lens with the Godox V860 Mk 2

I've been using the Godox V860 Mk III (improved communication protocol).

Do you use Mechanical or Electronic shutter for a single shot macro with flash?

Depends on the situation. eShutter flash sync is @ 1/125 (occasionally 1/160) so it can be pretty limiting when there is a lot of ambient light. An ND filter can help with this, but you must have/use a lot of flash power.

Mech shutter can let you double the sync speed, and also use HSS.

Do you use Mechanical or Electronic shutter for the flash focus bracketing?

eShutter only for Focus Bracketing!

Unless you shoot old-fashioned mShutter flash bursts using a work-around (sway technique to alter distance). This can be quite hit or miss.

I also sometimes like to use a (powerful) LED light when bracketing. Depends on the particular scenario of course.

For single shot do you use H+ or H in case the subject takes off for example (and flash be combined with the use of Pre-capture?)

Can't combine both flash + Pre-capture (camera won't let you even set this).

Interestingly, I briefly tried the Electronic shutter with my mates V3 Godox V860 flash to test it, and I had to lower the shutter speed to 1/120th - any faster i.e. at 1/160th as per Canon manual for ES and I had a horizontal black line across the image that covered around 5-10%.

Sensor readout isn't fast enough for any higher sync speeds.

What focus increment do you use?

Depends on the subject, but I generally use 4.

Aperture

I like f/8 (+/- a stop).

/ ISO?

Depends on flash power, etc.

(I was thinking f/8.0 to f/11 for single shot and f/5.6 to f/8.0 for focus bracketing with ISO 200)

Your ISO's will vary depending on subject brightness, flash power, distance, magnification ratio, diffusion, etc etc.

Any other tips and advise relating to this specific setup?

Thank you

I mostly use Focus Bracketing as a "focusing aid" for picking out the best single focal plane or two. Sometimes combining 2 frames for (slightly) increased DOF. I'm always shooting handheld. I don't technically "stack."

For eShutter Flash Focus Bracketing: I generally set sync to 1/125, aperture to f/8, ISO varies, number of frames to 10, flash power to 1/16. Full manual everything.

If you are going to shoot a higher number of frames, you'll have to reduce your flash power and increase your ISO (or wait for the burst(s) to finish up).

Even though it sounds complicated with a lot of variables it's actually a whole lot of fun to do! Go to it! :-D

R2

ps. As always, holler back with any additional questions.

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[RAWInstincts]

Hi all,

Just wanting to get a feel for macro settings used for flash bracketing on the R5 Mk2 with the RF 100 f/2.8mm macro lens with the Godox V860 Mk 2

I've been using the Godox V860 Mk III (improved communication protocol).

Do you use Mechanical or Electronic shutter for a single shot macro with flash?

Depends on the situation. eShutter flash sync is @ 1/125 (occasionally 1/160) so it can be pretty limiting when there is a lot of ambient light. An ND filter can help with this, but you must have/use a lot of flash power.

Mech shutter can let you double the sync speed, and also use HSS.

Do you use Mechanical or Electronic shutter for the flash focus bracketing?

eShutter only for Focus Bracketing!

Unless you shoot old-fashioned mShutter flash bursts using a work-around (sway technique to alter distance). This can be quite hit or miss.

I also sometimes like to use a (powerful) LED light when bracketing. Depends on the particular scenario of course.

For single shot do you use H+ or H in case the subject takes off for example (and flash be combined with the use of Pre-capture?)

Can't combine both flash + Pre-capture (camera won't let you even set this).

Interestingly, I briefly tried the Electronic shutter with my mates V3 Godox V860 flash to test it, and I had to lower the shutter speed to 1/120th - any faster i.e. at 1/160th as per Canon manual for ES and I had a horizontal black line across the image that covered around 5-10%.

Sensor readout isn't fast enough for any higher sync speeds.

What focus increment do you use?

Depends on the subject, but I generally use 4.

Aperture

I like f/8 (+/- a stop).

/ ISO?

Depends on flash power, etc.

(I was thinking f/8.0 to f/11 for single shot and f/5.6 to f/8.0 for focus bracketing with ISO 200)

Your ISO's will vary depending on subject brightness, flash power, distance, magnification ratio, diffusion, etc etc.

Any other tips and advise relating to this specific setup?

Thank you

I mostly use Focus Bracketing as a "focusing aid" for picking out the best single focal plane or two. Sometimes combining 2 frames for (slightly) increased DOF. I'm always shooting handheld. I don't technically "stack."

For eShutter Flash Focus Bracketing: I generally set sync to 1/125, aperture to f/8, ISO varies, number of frames to 10, flash power to 1/16. Full manual everything.

If you are going to shoot a higher number of frames, you'll have to reduce your flash power and increase your ISO (or wait for the burst(s) to finish up).

Even though it sounds complicated with a lot of variables it's actually a whole lot of fun to do! Go to it! :-D

R2

ps. As always, holler back with any additional questions.

 

[R2D2]

Hi all,

Just wanting to get a feel for macro settings used for flash bracketing on the R5 Mk2 with the RF 100 f/2.8mm macro lens with the Godox V860 Mk 2

I've been using the Godox V860 Mk III (improved communication protocol).

Do you use Mechanical or Electronic shutter for a single shot macro with flash?

Depends on the situation. eShutter flash sync is @ 1/125 (occasionally 1/160) so it can be pretty limiting when there is a lot of ambient light. An ND filter can help with this, but you must have/use a lot of flash power.

Mech shutter can let you double the sync speed, and also use HSS.

Do you use Mechanical or Electronic shutter for the flash focus bracketing?

eShutter only for Focus Bracketing!

Unless you shoot old-fashioned mShutter flash bursts using a work-around (sway technique to alter distance). This can be quite hit or miss.

I also sometimes like to use a (powerful) LED light when bracketing. Depends on the particular scenario of course.

For single shot do you use H+ or H in case the subject takes off for example (and flash be combined with the use of Pre-capture?)

Can't combine both flash + Pre-capture (camera won't let you even set this).

Interestingly, I briefly tried the Electronic shutter with my mates V3 Godox V860 flash to test it, and I had to lower the shutter speed to 1/120th - any faster i.e. at 1/160th as per Canon manual for ES and I had a horizontal black line across the image that covered around 5-10%.

Sensor readout isn't fast enough for any higher sync speeds.

What focus increment do you use?

Depends on the subject, but I generally use 4.

Aperture

I like f/8 (+/- a stop).

/ ISO?

Depends on flash power, etc.

(I was thinking f/8.0 to f/11 for single shot and f/5.6 to f/8.0 for focus bracketing with ISO 200)

Your ISO's will vary depending on subject brightness, flash power, distance, magnification ratio, diffusion, etc etc.

Any other tips and advise relating to this specific setup?

Thank you

I mostly use Focus Bracketing as a "focusing aid" for picking out the best single focal plane or two. Sometimes combining 2 frames for (slightly) increased DOF. I'm always shooting handheld. I don't technically "stack."

For eShutter Flash Focus Bracketing: I generally set sync to 1/125, aperture to f/8, ISO varies, number of frames to 10, flash power to 1/16. Full manual everything.

If you are going to shoot a higher number of frames, you'll have to reduce your flash power and increase your ISO (or wait for the burst(s) to finish up).

Even though it sounds complicated with a lot of variables it's actually a whole lot of fun to do! Go to it! :-D

R2

ps. As always, holler back with any additional questions.

Curious as to why the manual states 1/160th as a flash sync speed when clearly it’s 1/120th.

It's 1/160 in most cases, however when you enable Focus Bracketing the sync speed drops to 1/125 (automatically).

and single shot instead of H or H+ for focus bracketing?

It just gives you a single sequence (at a fast fps) each time. If you let up on the shutter and then press again it'll give you another sequence, etc.

But what you’ve suggested is pretty much my thought process.

Works very well that way.

i was deciding between Godox v860 II or III

The Mk III (presumably) allows both TTL and HSS to be active at the same time, with Canon bodies. Firmware needs to be the latest.

I do like the Mk III's (removable) lithium battery!

(although the one designed for OM seemingly fired in manual and TTL mode but doesn’t allow me to change much external flash settings in camera).

thanks

I do get all of the (relevant) external flash settings with the R5ii.

R2