NX20 Initial Use Impressions Part 1 - General Comments

[Harleysoftail]

Thank you so much for taking the time to do these posts. They are VERY helpful to those of us that are considering the purchase of the NX20. Based on your review to this point I can see no reason why I would not proceed with my purchase. As you have more time with the camera please continue to keep us updated.

 

[thethirdcoast]

Hank,

Thanks for the quick update on this. I'm sorry to hear your struggles with the NX20 WiFi, but I do find them very informative. I had hoped that Samsung would have enabled the NX20 to auto-detect the most common WiFi security protocols, but your experience makes it sound as though the process is much more finicky than that.

Thanks,

TTC

I spend over an hour yesterday, trying to get the NX20 to connect to my home network so I could transfer files. I got all the software on the PC loaded correctly. But the problem came down to the detailed connection of the camera to the WiFi network. I tried a number of parameter and password and press the button connection attempts. The only thing I did not do was turn of all security on my router (it is in my office). I may try this next.

Sorry I have not tried the other WiFi capabilities yet.

Hank

Hi,

Thanks for your detailed and thorough comments on the NX20. I was wondering if you've found any use for the WiFi yet. I know 2 Mp is not a lot, but it seems like it should be sufficient for displays at least as large as 1280x1024. Does the NX20 tie directly to a photo folder on sites like Facebook or Flickr, or does the user need to somehow specify a location with a URL or similar path to a network server?

Thanks again,

TTC

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Hank K
Samsung NX200 Kit (former 5DM2, GH2 Kit, and Fujifilm X100 shooter)

 

[tecnoworld]

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1001&message=41020044

they actually used 14 bit form, but never actually took advantage on the 2 extra bits that were equal to zero.

 

[mhike]

It's really bad, if in this day and age, we can't have easy connectivity to wireless? This could also prove some more limitations the imaging division works with, when compared to the mobile division. If it was so hard to connect to wifi for their phones, Samsung would be dead in the water. Fortunately, it's not needed 100% in this case, but if it can't be fixed, people are really going to jump on Samsung. Hopefully it can be worked out, but at the same time, if it's only a setting/user error, if it's reflective of it not being easy, then it's just as bad as no connectivity.

 

[tjobbe]

Hi Hank

regards that one

13. MISSING OPTION -- One wish is that in Auto ISO you could set a minimum shutter > speed. My Fuji X100 had this and it worked great. The shutter speed the NX20 sets before > switching to a higher ISO is to low for me.

Did you try to use M mode in combination with AutoISO ?

The NX200 (and hence I assume that the NX20 will not behave differently here) accepts fixed aperture and shutter speed values and adjusts the ISO value to get proper EV adjustments done.

Doing that you can still have some kind of Semi Automatic mode where the NX just pushes the ISO value to max needed...

 

[viking79]

Hi,

Thanks for your detailed and thorough comments on the NX20. I was wondering if you've found any use for the WiFi yet. I know 2 Mp is not a lot, but it seems like it should be sufficient for displays at least as large as 1280x1024. Does the NX20 tie directly to a photo folder on sites like Facebook or Flickr, or does the user need to somehow specify a location with a URL or similar path to a network server?

Once facebook you enter your credentials and it uploads it to an album that it called NX20.

Here is what I had to do to get it to work (going from memory here):

1. Turn on camera to Wi-Fi
2. Select Share on FB or whatever
3. Select my Network and enter password (once for a network)
4. Enter my Facebook Credentials (saves across sessions so you don't enter every time)
5. tell it what pictures to upload (all or select)
6. let the files transfer

The wireless should not be hard to use. If there is a problem there might be something else going on. My access point is WPA2 or whatever encrypted.

All the wireless functions worked seamlessly, even the DLNA direct to my TV (although the TV might have a poor implementation as it doesn't cache photos for the slide show, so it is slow changing between shots, it seems it should always have a couple shots pulled down in either direction so you don't have to wait for it).

Eric

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[Ariston]

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1001&message=41020044

they actually used 14 bit form, but never actually took advantage on the 2 extra bits that were equal to zero.

I thought you understood that topic already? but anyway, I'll be glad to help in clearing this one out. to begin with, I thought the NX200 was 14bit as well, but not because it was annonced officially or any reliable or reputable sites that say it is but solely based on "rumour" and file info registered on Adobe which btw had a difficult time decrypting the SRW file and provide any support. the file info though says differently on other Raw converters such as SilkyPix, PhaseOne, DCRaw, etc... which interprets the SRW as 12 bit. a review site also mentioned the file to be 12 bit.

to be more clear, the 14 bit interpretation by Adobe was unintentional and was rather a bug or error in the programming itself in the part of Adobe (decrypting) and also in the part of Samsung (file compression and Raw implementation). the file in reality was 12bit.

 

[HankK]

Interesting idea to use M mode. Over the next couple of days I will give this a try.

Thanks for the suggestion.

regards that one

13. MISSING OPTION -- One wish is that in Auto ISO you could set a minimum shutter > speed. My Fuji X100 had this and it worked great. The shutter speed the NX20 sets before > switching to a higher ISO is to low for me.

Did you try to use M mode in combination with AutoISO ?

The NX200 (and hence I assume that the NX20 will not behave differently here) accepts fixed aperture and shutter speed values and adjusts the ISO value to get proper EV adjustments done.

Doing that you can still have some kind of Semi Automatic mode where the NX just pushes the ISO value to max needed...

--
Hank K
Samsung NX200 Kit (former 5DM2, GH2 Kit, and Fujifilm X100 shooter)

 

[tecnoworld]

well, the difference in size among the two raw files is exactly the one from a 14bit to a 12bit coding. Anyway, like I stated in previous post, the raw was never 14bit, just used the space as it were, apparently.

this was just to say, summing up, that the "new" nx20 does NOT add anything to nx200, as to raw file compression. and this is a sad fact, imho.

 

[Ariston]

I don't think there is much to be expected especially if it's used with the same sensor and hardware with the same limitations. firmware can do only as much as what the hardware's capacity. when I read that there wasn't much of a change in hardware, it was meant to perform like what was announced. besides, the NX20 was supposed to be released last year alongside the NX200.

personally, I'm not really sad with that fact as long as I still get the same results that I'm getting from the NX200 with the 1.04 which are more refined now in LR4. I also noticed some slightly better DR as well so it's very nice indeed. of course, a higher bit data would be nice, but I think that could be in the next generation of NX cameras and hopefully 16bit instead and with a better processor. I'm still looking for the first mirrorless camera which I hope I could use for action.