new firmware..Oly

[glassoholic]

I got the same message on my EM1 X the first time I tried, and the a battery empty screen came up on the camera.

I had two batteries in the camera both at 60-61% at the time.

I replaced these two batteries with two at 100% and the update then went through no problems. I was worried for a while as the camera obviously had to be shut down to change the batteries out. The update process was at the downloaded but not started on the upload to the camera stage. I am thinking there might be some kind of failsafe installed in the update program that checks battery level before you can get to the stage where the camera would get bricked?

I have done updates in the past not being at 100% and not had this happen before.

Perhaps the new update process is much more sensitive to battery level?

Something to check anyway....

(Using my old reliable windows 7 machine and not the latest version of Workspace, but it has the latest camera updater I believe)

Gary

 

[glassoholic]

How peculiar... "Improved precision of focus when using single focal length lenses". What could have brought this on?

Interesting, alright. Do I recall correctly S-AF uses CDAF? Perhaps they improved S-AF on the new camera and are back-upgrading earlier models?

Will install and see what's what.

Cheers,

Rick

 

[Skeeterbytes]

How peculiar... "Improved precision of focus when using single focal length lenses". What could have brought this on?

Interesting, alright. Do I recall correctly S-AF uses CDAF? Perhaps they improved S-AF on the new camera and are back-upgrading earlier models?

Will install and see what's what.

Cheers,

Rick

I have a Pro shoot this weekend, so will wait until after then. It is even more interesting that the EM10.4 and EP7 gets the update... CDAF only bodies.

I am hoping to see an improvement with my 300 Pro... current focus accuracy is not as good as I would like.

Only updated one of two E-M1iis, will see if I observe any difference before updating the second. So far, nothing but am indoors.

Cheers,

Rick

 

[nearly-an-old-codger]

a great business decision to update previous cameras, gives me confidence going forward forward in the company and ups my buying possibility. now need to see definative af tests and tracking. an om 1 will be in my future once the hype is over.

cannot afford the new zoom but the 70-150 2.8 and or the 300 will be considered alongside the camera purchase

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Brian

 

[AnthonyC2000]

Just updated E-M1.3 without problem.

 

[drj3]

How peculiar... "Improved precision of focus when using single focal length lenses". What could have brought this on?

Interesting, alright. Do I recall correctly S-AF uses CDAF? Perhaps they improved S-AF on the new camera and are back-upgrading earlier models?

Will install and see what's what.

Cheers,

Rick

I have a Pro shoot this weekend, so will wait until after then. It is even more interesting that the EM10.4 and EP7 gets the update... CDAF only bodies.

I am hoping to see an improvement with my 300 Pro... current focus accuracy is not as good as I would like.

Only updated one of two E-M1iis, will see if I observe any difference before updating the second. So far, nothing but am indoors.

Cheers,

Rick

You might try checking the small focus point with the 300mm f4 - SAF. I have always found my 300mm f4 to very slightly front focus with SAF, but be very accurate with CAF with less focus variation than SAF. However, the difference is not large and generally only noticeable at 100% enlargement with things like feather detail.

 

[Skeeterbytes]

You might try checking the small focus point with the 300mm f4 - SAF. I have always found my 300mm f4 to very slightly front focus with SAF, but be very accurate with CAF with less focus variation than SAF. However, the difference is not large and generally only noticeable at 100% enlargement with things like feather detail.

Could be a fun challenge. Will need to dig out a tripod to do it right; don't want to trust handholding for something that persnickety. Am pretty steady, but not that steady.

Cheers,

Rick

 

[nearly-an-old-codger]

some people unintentionally 'rock' backwards and forwards slightly when pressing the shutter. less likely with back or other button focus. with long lenses this can make a difference. which is why maybe that caf is better. worth testing on a tripod.

 

[glassoholic]

How peculiar... "Improved precision of focus when using single focal length lenses". What could have brought this on?

Interesting, alright. Do I recall correctly S-AF uses CDAF? Perhaps they improved S-AF on the new camera and are back-upgrading earlier models?

Will install and see what's what.

Cheers,

Rick

I have a Pro shoot this weekend, so will wait until after then. It is even more interesting that the EM10.4 and EP7 gets the update... CDAF only bodies.

I am hoping to see an improvement with my 300 Pro... current focus accuracy is not as good as I would like.

Only updated one of two E-M1iis, will see if I observe any difference before updating the second. So far, nothing but am indoors.

Cheers,

Rick

You might try checking the small focus point with the 300mm f4 - SAF. I have always found my 300mm f4 to very slightly front focus with SAF, but be very accurate with CAF with less focus variation than SAF. However, the difference is not large and generally only noticeable at 100% enlargement with things like feather detail.

 

[Ergellegre]

How peculiar... "Improved precision of focus when using single focal length lenses". What could have brought this on?

 

[David5833]

Thanks for the heads up. I updated my E-M5iii via OM Workspace without a hitch, took about 5 minutes. I haven't tried to determine if it improved the AF with the 300 Pro or the 60mm macro, not sure I could tell anyway.

Did the update dump your settings? I had to build an Excel file with my settings for one of the pervious updates because it reset my camera to factory. Think I will run the update tonight regardless; it will just take me more time if I have to setup my camera again.

It was seamless. No settings changed.

 

[Messier Object]

How peculiar... "Improved precision of focus when using single focal length lenses". What could have brought this on?

Interesting, alright. Do I recall correctly S-AF uses CDAF? Perhaps they improved S-AF on the new camera and are back-upgrading earlier models?

Will install and see what's what.

Cheers,

Rick

I have a Pro shoot this weekend, so will wait until after then. It is even more interesting that the EM10.4 and EP7 gets the update... CDAF only bodies.

I am hoping to see an improvement with my 300 Pro... current focus accuracy is not as good as I would like.

The update note refers to focus precision not accuracy.

Even without Japanese to English translation errors the two terms are often used and misused interchangeably with the correct usage often depending on the context.

Accuracy of focus usually refers to correctness - front or back, and precision refers to how finely you can place focus on a small point - eg eye instead of head.

Exactly which OMDS is referring to here isn’t clear, but I’m hoping it’s the ability to pick out a small target without the camera grabbing focus onto something else nearby.

Why this would be specific to prime lenses and whether it’s a PDAF, CDAF, S-AF or C-AF thing or some combination is anybody’s guess.

My guess is that it’s a bug fix, and perhaps specific to certain lenses, not a performance enhancement.

Peter

 

[drj3]

some people unintentionally 'rock' backwards and forwards slightly when pressing the shutter. less likely with back or other button focus. with long lenses this can make a difference. which is why maybe that caf is better. worth testing on a tripod.

My tests are with the camera clamped to a heavy support (far more stable than the best tripod) with at 2 second delay between shutter press and exposure. CAF shows zero average focus error, SAF consistently (with and without both TCs on the E-M1.2 and E-M1.3) a very small but consistent front focus as well as larger focus variation. I am relatively sure it is not a problem with my 300mm since it shows no average error with CAF based on the focus steps and PDAF. I only use SAF with the 300mm f4 if there is too little illumination or detail for the lens to focus.

 

[Sujiar]

My EM1X updated fine with just one 100% battery.

 

[Henry Richardson]

• Improved precision of focus when using single-focal-length lenses.

Wonder what that means? Anyone who has updated notice something different?

I have an E-M1 II with 3.5. Maybe tomorrow I will update it.

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Henry Richardson
http://www.bakubo.com

 

[Henry Richardson]

Seems there is new firmware as of today....EM1X OMD1m3 OMD1m2 OMD5m3 OMD10m4

• Possible to use focus stacking photography with "M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 40-150mm F4.0 PRO".
• Improved precision of focus when using single-focal-length lenses.

All the cameras include both EXCEPT the E-M10 IV -- it only includes the 2nd one.

 

[1943Mike]

How peculiar... "Improved precision of focus when using single focal length lenses". What could have brought this on?

Interesting, alright. Do I recall correctly S-AF uses CDAF? Perhaps they improved S-AF on the new camera and are back-upgrading earlier models?

Will install and see what's what.

On further review, nope.



Three tries and after the full install it freezes here. Luckily the camera isn't bricked and is still back at FW 1.2, because somebody has not installed all those interim updates.

Fooey

ETA Same outcome with an E-M1ii. Need to try a different PC. Have never had this issue with dozens of prior updates.

The "Failed to communicate with the camera ...." Happened two times trying to update my EM1 MkIII. Third time was the charm.

Now I've experienced the same window once on my EM1 MkII. I'm hoping it'll go through on the second try which is underway now. I guess, at least for me, it's persistence that'll get the job done.

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1943Mike

PS It took four (4) tries to update the EM1 MkII! Persistence pays off I guess.

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[drj3]

How peculiar... "Improved precision of focus when using single focal length lenses". What could have brought this on?

Interesting, alright. Do I recall correctly S-AF uses CDAF? Perhaps they improved S-AF on the new camera and are back-upgrading earlier models?

Will install and see what's what.

Cheers,

Rick

I have a Pro shoot this weekend, so will wait until after then. It is even more interesting that the EM10.4 and EP7 gets the update... CDAF only bodies.

I am hoping to see an improvement with my 300 Pro... current focus accuracy is not as good as I would like.

The update note refers to focus precision not accuracy.

Even without Japanese to English translation errors the two terms are often used and misused interchangeably with the correct usage often depending on the context.

Accuracy of focus usually refers to correctness - front or back, and precision refers to how finely you can place focus on a small point - eg eye instead of head.

Exactly which OMDS is referring to here isn’t clear, but I’m hoping it’s the ability to pick out a small target without the camera grabbing focus onto something else nearby.

Precision would also probably increase focus accuracy. The SAF focus point is far larger than the same CAF focus point and a decrease in the size of the area around the indicated focus point should also increase the accuracy of focus.

Why this would be specific to prime lenses and whether it’s a PDAF, CDAF, S-AF or C-AF thing or some combination is anybody’s guess.

My guess is that it’s a bug fix, and perhaps specific to certain lenses, not a performance enhancement.

Peter

 

[David5833]

...The SAF focus point is far larger than the same CAF focus point....

Do you mean the focus point box that is visible in the display or something else? The focus point box I see in the display on my 5iii is the same size for S-AF and C-AF.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/143821723@N06/

 

[Messier Object]

How peculiar... "Improved precision of focus when using single focal length lenses". What could have brought this on?

Interesting, alright. Do I recall correctly S-AF uses CDAF? Perhaps they improved S-AF on the new camera and are back-upgrading earlier models?

Will install and see what's what.

Cheers,

Rick

I have a Pro shoot this weekend, so will wait until after then. It is even more interesting that the EM10.4 and EP7 gets the update... CDAF only bodies.

I am hoping to see an improvement with my 300 Pro... current focus accuracy is not as good as I would like.

The update note refers to focus precision not accuracy.

Even without Japanese to English translation errors the two terms are often used and misused interchangeably with the correct usage often depending on the context.

Accuracy of focus usually refers to correctness - front or back, and precision refers to how finely you can place focus on a small point - eg eye instead of head.

Exactly which OMDS is referring to here isn’t clear, but I’m hoping it’s the ability to pick out a small target without the camera grabbing focus onto something else nearby.

Precision would also probably increase focus accuracy. The SAF focus point is far larger than the same CAF focus point and a decrease in the size of the area around the indicated focus point should also increase the accuracy of focus.

hmm, I can see subtle differences in this . . . from the perspective of the user looking at the taken image and seeing how sharp the focus appears to be how can we know whether it's an accuracy (front-back) error or a precision error (the camera was evaluating the wrong spot). You might say that the accuracy is slightly off or is varying because you see some variation in Front-Back when what's really happening is the camera was focusing exactly right (front to back) but on slightly different places on the 3-dimensional target.

Yes, in general more precise targeting should give the camera less latitude to focus on the 'wrong' place (ie a spot not precisely intended by the user) and should therefore deliver more 'accuracy' from the point of view of the user looking at the taken image

Why this would be specific to prime lenses and whether it’s a PDAF, CDAF, S-AF or C-AF thing or some combination is anybody’s guess.

My guess is that it’s a bug fix, and perhaps specific to certain lenses, not a performance enhancement.

Peter