Mk3 and AF - what if it couldn't be fixed with a firmware update?

The only major AF problems we seem to be hearing about (and hearing
about) lately, are with the MK IIIs belonging to non-MK III owners
Then you don't read.
 
That's not what I said at all. I didn't say "boy, this camera works great but I still want to return it"...what I said was so far so good but I still have some testing to do and if I find that mine is having the same issues then it will be returned within the return period (read my post a few lines up). I'm sure pretty much anybody else (perhaps you being the exception) would do the same.

Again, for the last time I hope, my reason for posting in the first place was to get an opinion from the folks here as to how Canon would support this camera assuming they admitted to a problem and it turned out to be an expensive hardware fix rather than a firmware update. Hopefully I'll never have to worry about it because like I said, so far so good.

Please read my posts before you criticize me. Sheesh!
Dave,

You are now asking for me to inject my political and fiscal
perspective into this which I will gladly do.

I will cut to the chase. This OP is hypocrisy at its best. While I
can't fully speak on behalf of the OP, I have read just too many
posts blasting the inappropriateness of Canon for being
duplicitous/money hungry, etc. Because there are store policies
that say you can return defective equipment in a certain period of
time, do you really think it appropriate to go, take the camera for a
spin and return it for no good reason so that some poor schnook who
doesn't know better can then buy a repacked camera? Then we see the
posts from the buyer who gets a repack spewing venom at the reseller
and rightfully so-so there is plenty of duplicity and hypocrisy to be
shared by all. The OP can rationalize it all he/she wants but it is
not right.

I am not saying that buying a camera should be gambling, I am not
saying that you don't have the right to return a malfunctioning piece
of equipment. I think those waiting till the dust settles before
they purchase are prudent and doing the right thing. Those of us who
own it and enjoy it, great and quite frankly, I rather share those
experiences. But I have no patience for the poor me innocent posts
or the post saying hey I got an MKIII and it works great but I am
returning it just in case-individuals too need to accept some
responsibility for their actions/purchases and this OP is totally
inappropriate IMO. Are they breaking any law or rule-of course
not-are they bending them-of course they are.

While I debate those who buy it knowingly even after having read all
the issues/problems/bad reviews from RG, I still understand their
point (although don't necessarily agree with why they purchased it in
the first place), when they return it for finding what they believe
is a problem (however in most cases words and not examples). This
OP, bought the thing knowing all the issues, states the thing works
properly (for G-ds sake admits to shooting over 400 shots of
hummingbirds with the "vast majority in focus") and still wants to
return it! Come on. This is not right, is hypocritical and feeding
into unfounded hysteria. But it is OK, because we are just little
people who shouldn't be held accountable-only the big money hungry
evil corporations should.

Enough said.
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You can parse it all you want. You are just too filled with yourself to understand the point and will keep quoting and quoting nonsense out of context.

Work for Canon? If they pay me enough I would. Do you know of any openings?
 
I think a IIIn in the near future is pretty far fetched but I also think this kind of thinking had some bearing on the OP asking his original question.

None of us mkIII owners (even happy ones like me) want to end up with a body that the public in general finds undesirable, that's why Canon needs to address it one way or the other.
If the focus problem is hardware related I do not expect it to get
fixed. I believe focus issues will be compensated through firmware
the best it can. I expect the 1D mark III to be short lived and the
1D mark III N be introduced to correct the hardware issues along with
other minor enhancements. I do not know very many companies who are
willing to undergo massive recalls unless governed by legislation.
Otherwise production for the 1D mark III should have come to a
complete stop.
 
I have this camera and I have another week or so to decide whether to
send it back and hang on to my 1DM2N or keep it. I used it for the
first time yesterday and took over 400 shots of hummingbirds in
flight mostly using AI Servo. The vast majority of shots were in
focus...but it still concerns me that there may be issues that I
haven't uncovered yet.
Shouldn't you have been concerned before you bought it?
Question...if Canon did finally fess up that there were AF issues but
they couldn't be fixed by a firmware update, do you think they'd do a
recall of some sort? I have to believe that Canon would stand behind
their customers and do whatever it takes to make them happy, even if
it entailed a very expensive fix - and even more so for a pro body.

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The only major AF problems we seem to be hearing about (and hearing
about) lately, are with the MK IIIs belonging to non-MK III owners
;o)
blah blah blah...that all you offer. i own a mkIII and it doesnt AF.

blah blah blah...you offer ZERO.

david
http://www.davidprobst.com
I said lately . You've been griping for a month now...
i have a valid reason to gripe. too bad that it bothers you. you need to learn to not let it affect you emotionally. maybe i am asking the impossible.

by the way do you even own a MKIII? i think i may have asked you that before...with no answer. question answered?

blah blah blah...ZERO on your part. nothing substantial . you are consistent though...LOL.

david
http://www.davidprobst.com
 
i have a valid reason to gripe. too bad that it bothers you. you need
to learn to not let it affect you emotionally. maybe i am asking the
impossible.
Hardly... but again, you attack me out of the blue both personally and with irrational anger. It's not the first time. What's up with that?
by the way do you even own a MKIII? i think i may have asked you that
before...with no answer. question answered?
I'm reluctant to engage you, given your emotional state, but yes, I do, and I love it - no problems.
blah blah blah...ZERO on your part. nothing substantial . you are
consistent though...LOL.
Well, opinions vary...
 
If you have a valid problem, then why wouldn't you:

a) return it, or
b) get it fixed

Griping doesn't cause your camera to start working if its got a problem.
The only major AF problems we seem to be hearing about (and hearing
about) lately, are with the MK IIIs belonging to non-MK III owners
;o)
blah blah blah...that all you offer. i own a mkIII and it doesnt AF.

blah blah blah...you offer ZERO.

david
http://www.davidprobst.com
I said lately . You've been griping for a month now...
i have a valid reason to gripe. too bad that it bothers you. you need
to learn to not let it affect you emotionally. maybe i am asking the
impossible.

by the way do you even own a MKIII? i think i may have asked you that
before...with no answer. question answered?

blah blah blah...ZERO on your part. nothing substantial . you are
consistent though...LOL.

david
http://www.davidprobst.com
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