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Hey everyone - gotta question:

First, as a result of a previous posting, I have decided to forgo conversion over to DNG and just stay in NEF format. Also, I have recently purchased the Photographer's Guide to Capture NX and I am learning all sorts of new stuff about the program that I wasn't crazy about in the past.

Which brings me to the question..

Lightroom sends an image to Capture NX as a TIFF - is there anyway for it to send the pic as an NEF?

Thanks - the information that I always get from this forum is invaluable!

-John
 
Did I stump everyone! (LOL)

-John
JohnMHardin said:
Hey everyone - gotta question:
First, as a result of a previous posting, I have decided to forgo
conversion over to DNG and just stay in NEF format. Also, I have
recently purchased the Photographer's Guide to Capture NX and I am
learning all sorts of new stuff about the program that I wasn't
crazy about in the past.

Which brings me to the question..

Lightroom sends an image to Capture NX as a TIFF - is there anyway
for it to send the pic as an NEF?

Thanks - the information that I always get from this forum is
invaluable!

-John
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As far as I know (I don't own Lightroom), you need to tell Lightroom to reveal the original file location in a Windows Explorer or Finder (mac) window, then manually open the file using NX.

Lightroom will always use its built-in raw conversion engine to process your NEF (thumbnails, etc), so any changes you make to it in Capture NX will not be visible in Lightroom unless you then save a TIFF or JPEG copy of the file.

-Jason

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Author, 'The Photographer's Guide to Capture NX'
Visit my website at: http://www.luminescentphoto.com
 
The reveal in Explorer is a good idea, and that might be just how I have to do it that way...

However, when I do editing in Capture NX, and then go back to Lightroom, the RAW hasn't changed/updated? Am I missing something?

Thanks!

-John
 
JohnMHardin said:
The reveal in Explorer is a good idea, and that might be just how I
have to do it that way...

However, when I do editing in Capture NX, and then go back to
Lightroom, the RAW hasn't changed/updated? Am I missing something?
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No, you didn't miss anything. Lightroom keeps the edit information in a database. You can, however, 'Export' the information to an XMP sidecar file. The question then is Will Capture NX rread the information in the sidecar file. I doubt it.

Lightroom will only get better. Be patient. It already has some very powerful tools.

Bob Peters
 
OK, good to know :)

I agree - Lightroom is simply amazing IMHO. I understand the pros and cons on both sides, and at the end of the day, it just comes right down to you workflow and the output.

Previously I used Bridge-Photoshop/Picasa to go through all my images - Bridge was weak and Picasa was fast, but the results were not consistent.

Now, with Lightroom, I can go through 300 photos in 1/8th the time and have decent results (I am a dedicated amateur - I am not good enough to call myself a professional).

-John
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Robert Peters said:
JohnMHardin said:
The reveal in Explorer is a good idea, and that might be just how I
have to do it that way...

However, when I do editing in Capture NX, and then go back to
Lightroom, the RAW hasn't changed/updated? Am I missing something?
Click to expand...
No, you didn't miss anything. Lightroom keeps the edit information
in a database. You can, however, 'Export' the information to an
XMP sidecar file. The question then is Will Capture NX rread the
information in the sidecar file. I doubt it.

Lightroom will only get better. Be patient. It already has some
very powerful tools.

Bob Peters
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Cliff
 
the .NEF hasn't changed but lightroom won't be able to read the changes.

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Cliff
 
I'm in the same boat, using Lightroom & Capture NX. I really do like the output of Capture NX - except for it's inability to remove CA. I've used the CA tool but it doesn't nearly work as well as lowering certain sliders in Lightroom.

Have you printed from either app yet?
 
Miguelr,

I have printed from Lightroom - first shot was horrible! I soon discovered that it was due to me failing to select the right profile for my Epson R2400 - once I did this, printing was perfect.

I have not tried printing in Capture NX - I just output to JPEG/TIFF then print in PS (which is calibrated and good to go)

-John

P.S. Yeah stupid question coming up - what does (nt) mean in a post or a subject?
miguelr said:
I'm in the same boat, using Lightroom & Capture NX. I really do
like the output of Capture NX - except for it's inability to remove
CA. I've used the CA tool but it doesn't nearly work as well as
lowering certain sliders in Lightroom.

Have you printed from either app yet?
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nt = no text.

i learned this the annoying way, constantly clicking on post links, wondering why the hell there wasn't any text. haha. I guess it's just a courtesy if someone needs to provide a short enough answer to fit in the subject line.

that's good to hear you're getting some good prints from lightroom. I haven't printed anything yet, but I plan on taking prints to a local lab to see what they can do with them. I'm thinking of asking them for any possible printer profiles to avoid the initial problems you had.
 
Do you have the automatic CA removal tool turned on in Base Adjustments? This works REALLY well in Capture NX, but only on NEFs. I find it gets rid of nearly all CA in my shots, or at least mitigates it to the point where it is not noticeable in prints.

-Jason

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Author, 'The Photographer's Guide to Capture NX'
Visit my website at: http://www.luminescentphoto.com
 
to jason,

yes, i've tried it with both on and off, as well as the manaul CA removal tool. And I was applying it to an NEF from my D200. It definitely lessened the effect of CA, but I still got better results with Lightroom using their specific color desaturation sliders. Of course the photo of my cat on my previous post didn't have much blue/purple in it, so it didn't mess with any other part of the photo. I still choose capture nx over lightroom for post-processing, as the overall conversion is more to my liking, it's just that I'm acknowledging that Lightroom managed to get the CA out better.

I see that you wrote a piece on Capture NX, i might just have to check it out. I'm always down for more learning.
  • Miguel
JasonOdell said:
Do you have the automatic CA removal tool turned on in Base
Adjustments? This works REALLY well in Capture NX, but only on
NEFs. I find it gets rid of nearly all CA in my shots, or at least
mitigates it to the point where it is not noticeable in prints.

-Jason

--
Author, 'The Photographer's Guide to Capture NX'
Visit my website at: http://www.luminescentphoto.com
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oops, sorry about the lack fo the photo, i was referring to a different post I made concerning the lens I used.

This is the one processed in NX...



And this one is the one from Lightroom...



As you can see the traces of CA are minimal, but even less so in the Lightroom version. I played around with it some more just for fun, and I managed to lessen it even more, but in the end the Lightroom still edged it out in terms of CA removal. But I personally prefer the look I got from NX overall.

take care!
 
Good discussion.

From this it seems that if one is working mostly in NX for RAW edits, that PM is the way to go for moving back and forth between NX and a program that ingests, renames, applies IPTC templates and allows you to SEE the edits made in NX, when browsing.

This is how I'm interpreting this discsussion. Am I on track here or off track?

I've been looking at IView Media Pro but want to work on RAW files with NX and see the results.

Thanks.
 
I personally use Photo Mechanic and I haven't come across a better browser; especially one that is more "NX Friendly".

The latest version of PM also now incorporates the Adobe Bridge "star ratings", so if you use PM to rank your images, Bridge will retain the information, provided you tell PM to use sidecar (XMP) files.

-Jason

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Author, 'The Photographer's Guide to Capture NX'
Visit my website at: http://www.luminescentphoto.com
 
I've not been able to find PM at B&H, and Amazon only lists some old Lexar version that is no longer available, so where's the best place to buy it?

Just down load it off of the Camera Bits website, try it and buy it? Any good books, ebooks, reference material about available?

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There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those that understand binary, and those that don't.
 
I thought I understood the difference between a catalog of images and a browser of images, but it seems this distinction, too, is blurred somewhat. I.e. PhotoMechanic gives you the ability to see your photos with its seemingly useful interface, assign metadata, IPTC, and rating colors, all of which must be stored with each photo, creating some kind of "database" correct? While I understand that it does not "catalog" per se, so that you can view off site (e.g. DVD archived images) photos, it does keep track of the metadata assigned to the photo, and lets you do a very thorough preview and comparison of photos, for selection, and all of this info is retained.... again, in a database (i.e. like a catalog).

Am I missing something about these programs? (trying to choose one).
 
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