Images deleted from memory card in computer but not....

[kayaker156]

Fujifilm x-T30. Deleted many images from memory card in computer. After putting card back in camera it does not reflect any deleted images.

This is what shows in finder when I open the card:

DCIM:

106_Fuji

107_Fuji

FFDB

Don't understand why camera does not reflect what I did. Wondering if I have to delete from camera only.

 

[Sothoth]

Fujifilm x-T30. Deleted many images from memory card in computer. After putting card back in camera it does not reflect any deleted images.

This is what shows in finder when I open the card:

DCIM:

106_Fuji

107_Fuji

FFDB

Don't understand why camera does not reflect what I did. Wondering if I have to delete from camera only.

Aren’t those the folder names and not picture names? I hope I’m not misreading your post but if they are just folder names, this is normal because deleting all images in-camera won’t remove the folders. To remove the folders you’d need to drag and drop them in the computer to trash. Or reformat the card. If you reformat in-camera it will recreate its own file and folder structure, and put new folders on the card, maybe in the same names you already had if the camera is the same as the one you just used it in.

Hope this helps

 

[jnrobinson]

Did you empty the trash on your computer before ejecting the memory card? If not, you didn't really delete the photos from the memory card.

 

[Sothoth]

Fujifilm x-T30. Deleted many images from memory card in computer. After putting card back in camera it does not reflect any deleted images.

This is what shows in finder when I open the card:

DCIM:

106_Fuji

107_Fuji

FFDB

Don't understand why camera does not reflect what I did. Wondering if I have to delete from camera only.

Sorry I misread your concern in my earlier reply. You can certainly delete them on your PC using the advice from the other member or just reformat the card on your camera.

Common “wisdom” is that reformatting on the camera is the best way to delete images to reduce the likelihood of file errors in future file writes. I’m not sure I buy this as being a big problem that needs to be solved but I do it anyway because I’m paranoid.

 

[kayaker156]

Let me explain it differently. The memory card showed that I had 17 shots left on the card.

After deleting over 100 files from the card in my Mac-putting it back in the camera-it still showed 17 shots left.

 

[kayaker156]

I always keep images on the card, even after transferring to computer.

Looks like I won't be doing that in the future. I will transfer to computer and then reformat the card .

Thanks for the help.

 

[michaeladawson]

I always keep images on the card, even after transferring to computer.

Looks like I won't be doing that in the future. I will transfer to computer and then reformat the card .

Thanks for the help.

I think I see. You didn't delete all the images on the card. Just around 100. Unless you have a very small card you left several hundred images on the card. I don't know whether you're shooting jpeg or raw. You put the card back in the camera and the camera still shows only 17 shots remaining. Is that the situation?

If you are shooting raw I'm assuming the camera is set to lossless compressed (or even lossy compressed, it doesn't matter). The estimate of 17 shots remaining is usually based on assuming a full uncompressed photo. The camera doesn't know how many compressed images can be stored on the card until you actually take the picture.

So I can't say I'm not surprised the camera still said 17 remaining, especially if you shoot jpeg. I will say though, that if you really deleted 100 or more photos I would have expected the number to go up by some amount. It does seem odd that it stayed at 17. But if you delete 100 photos the count is not going to go up by 100.

 

[kayaker156]

think I see. You didn't delete all the images on the card. Just around 100. Unless you have a very small card you left several hundred images on the card. I don't know whether you're shooting jpeg or raw. You put the card back in the camera and the camera still shows only 17 shots remaining. Is that the situation? YES

Shooting fine + raw, uncompressed. I think an empty card holds several hundred images.

If

 

[John Gellings]

I always keep images on the card, even after transferring to computer.

Why would you ever do that?

Looks like I won't be doing that in the future.

Please do not.

I will transfer to computer and then reformat the card .

Thanks for the help.

Always.

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

Let me explain it differently. The memory card showed that I had 17 shots left on the card.

After deleting over 100 files from the card in my Mac-putting it back in the camera-it still showed 17 shots left.

Evidently the camera still thinks the old images are on the card, or at least the space occupied by them is still occupied, which means one of probably three things (which I list in what I’d personally guess is increasing order of likelihood):

1. You only deleted either the raw or the JPEG for the files you deleted, and the camera is inferring the presence of one from the other, and estimating accordingly
2. There is a record of the files and file sizes on the card which the camera maintains, and this is still telling the camera that the files still exist
3. The camera maintains a very simple record of the last known amount of space taken/available, and updates this whenever it records a new image

Have you tried taking a photo to see if the estimated space remaining changes?

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

I always keep images on the card, even after transferring to computer.

Why would you ever do that?

I do that. It’s a form of backup.

A 256GB card holds a bit over 5,000 raw+JPEG images and a 256GB Sandisk Extreme Pro costs a bit over £20. That’s about 0.4p per image. And that’s a cost that gets lower and lower every time I buy a card.

I’m not a rapid-fire shooter so 5,000 lasts me a long time; it’s not expensive. Besides, I only have to glance at a roll of film to justify it: for the same money I get 36 images.

It also means I’m not at risk of (what is, as I understand it) the main cause of lost data through SD card failure, which is repeated write cycles.

Looks like I won't be doing that in the future.

Please do not.

Well, do or don’t, but if you are going to delete files then yes, it’s generally best to format the card in-camera.

 

[kayaker156]

Glad that some of you are still out there do that.

"It’s a form of backup" - that is exactly why I keep stuff on the card. That and feeling insecure that if something were to happen to my main photo drive I would be SOL.

This is my system. I keep all of my images on a 2Tb ext drive. I have a duplicate ext drive. Every so often I delete what's on the duplicate, then copy and paste everything that's on the drive connected to my computer. The duplicate is in a different location.

I've always been under the impression to keep a duplicate backup drive in a different location. If that were not an issue then would I be able to keep both drives connected to Lightroom Classic and backup to both???

I will reformat the memory card going forward. I assume that the reason not to is that the card could become corrupted.

 

[John Gellings]

I always keep images on the card, even after transferring to computer.

Why would you ever do that?

I do that. It’s a form of backup.

It's not a very good form of back up though. They are meant to be used as temporary storage.

A 256GB card holds a bit over 5,000 raw+JPEG images and a 256GB Sandisk Extreme Pro costs a bit over £20. That’s about 0.4p per image. And that’s a cost that gets lower and lower every time I buy a card.

I understand the cost.

I’m not a rapid-fire shooter so 5,000 lasts me a long time; it’s not expensive. Besides, I only have to glance at a roll of film to justify it: for the same money I get 36 images.

I get that as well.

It also means I’m not at risk of (what is, as I understand it) the main cause of lost data through SD card failure, which is repeated write cycles.

Looks like I won't be doing that in the future.

Please do not.

Well, do or don’t, but if you are going to delete files then yes, it’s generally best to format the card in-camera.

Exactly.

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

It's not a very good form of back up though. They are meant to be used as temporary storage.

But that doesn’t mean they can only be used as temporary storage.

It does have some advantages over some other forms of backup: it incurs zero subscription cost, zero upload time, and—perhaps most compellingly of all—zero effort on my part to either set up or use

It’s enough to complement the Adobe cloud for now. At some point I’ll merge my old LR3 library and my current LR Mobile library into one LR library on a new Mac, but that’s currently stalled by the fact that it doesn’t require zero effort on my part (also requires me to spend over a grand on a new MacBook…)

 

[kayaker156]

All good stuff.

 

[John Gellings]

It's not a very good form of back up though. They are meant to be used as temporary storage.

But that doesn’t mean they can only be used as temporary storage.

True, but they are more easily corrupted vs. a hard drive. That said, I didn’t realize you had other backup options in use, so yeah it’s ok as an alternative source.

It does have some advantages over some other forms of backup: it incurs zero subscription cost, zero upload time, and—perhaps most compellingly of all—zero effort on my part to either set up or use

It’s enough to complement the Adobe cloud for now. At some point I’ll merge my old LR3 library and my current LR Mobile library into one LR library on a new Mac, but that’s currently stalled by the fact that it doesn’t require zero effort on my part (also requires me to spend over a grand on a new MacBook…)

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[graystubble]

Stupid question: you “deleted” the images, but did you “empty the trash” before you ejected the card?

 

[kayaker156]

I don't remember.

 

[graystubble]

Ah, no problem. I asked because I’ve done that before. The images have just been moved to the hidden .Trashes folder. I think I remember also making this mistake with the SD card adapter with my iPhone as well.

 

[lewiedude2]

I always keep images on the card, even after transferring to computer.

Looks like I won't be doing that in the future. I will transfer to computer and then reformat the card .

Thanks for the help.

Reformat in the camera. B&H photo had a guest from sandisk on their weekly podcast a couple years ago and she basically demanded that you format in camera to protect the integrity of storing the images you are taking and reducing risk of the card failing. I have always done it that way and will always continue to do it that way. Why do you leave images on your card after importing to the computer?