Image Storage

[PaulThePhotoMan]

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've searched database programs but there are so many out there and I have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[TMacaw]

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

----------------------------------------------
Very large subject and many approaches.

Hopefully high-quality CD-R (Mitsui Gold for example) will turn out to be acceptable.

Respectfully suggest you take time to trial and evaluate IMatch. It's not the easiest to start with, but well written and very capable now and to grow with.
TMc

 

[dv8mtsp]

theres this little cd burner that takes compact flash cards. its fairly small, and lightwieght. also you could look up a image tank or mass storage device, nikon has a coolwalker coming out soon that will have some gigs of storage you just put the card in and itll save to it. personally i use my pda for everything, i learned how much i could do from this site

http://www.glasslantern.com/articles/PocketPCresources/index.htm

i have a compaq ipaq 3800 series and i love it i use pocket loupe for raw conversions iff need be veiwing cause my pocket pcs screen show better colors in my opinion than nikons screen and also it can crop and show a histogram in rgb or in seperate colors. after that use the pocket pc sleave to download to a 10 gig pcmia drive and boom your dont and ready to upload to capture, finalize, and enjoy

 

[Paolo Pizzi]

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images?

I burn DVD-R's. CD-R's are waaaaay too small for NEF files.
I only use Ritek 04 discs, which are known to be among the
most reliable (my collection of coasters is really, really small... )

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'Everything should be made as
simple as possible, but no simpler.'

(Albert Einstein)

• Equipment list in profile.

 

[Rliotta]

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images?

I burn DVD-R's. CD-R's are waaaaay too small for NEF files.
I only use Ritek 04 discs, which are known to be among the
most reliable (my collection of coasters is really, really small...
)

------------------------------------------------
'Everything should be made as
simple as possible, but no simpler.'

(Albert Einstein)

• Equipment list in profile.

 

[jkamphof]

I have been taking thousands of images every 6 months and my CD-R collection has been getting way to big.

I decided as I travel constantly to invest in a portable harddrive (Anypack + 60Gig drive) designed for a notebook HDD. If I wasn't traveling I would have gone to a firewire desktop portable HDD as I can go to about 200Gig for about the same price.

The portable drive is handy as I can take it on trips and upload all images usually in hotels or in cafes via USB 2.0.

Joel

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[PaulThePhotoMan]

Do you still backup your images though? It's very risky to trust a hard drive with all your images!!

I decided as I travel constantly to invest in a portable harddrive
(Anypack + 60Gig drive) designed for a notebook HDD. If I wasn't
traveling I would have gone to a firewire desktop portable HDD as I
can go to about 200Gig for about the same price.

The portable drive is handy as I can take it on trips and upload
all images usually in hotels or in cafes via USB 2.0.

Joel

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[PaulThePhotoMan]

Thanks. I'm downloading IMatch now.

Is it at all possible to export part of the database + program onto a CD so that I can send images to people? (I know BR's Photoarchiver does this... but it's too buggy for me to use reliably!).

Paul

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

----------------------------------------------
Very large subject and many approaches.
Hopefully high-quality CD-R (Mitsui Gold for example) will turn out
to be acceptable.

Respectfully suggest you take time to trial and evaluate IMatch.
It's not the easiest to start with, but well written and very
capable now and to grow with.
TMc

 

[jkamphof]

Yeah for my NEF's or really nice shots I will toss them on CD-R yet.

I have all of them also on my hardrive always too so in many cases I got 3 sets of copies.

I figure I've gone years and years with only one set of film negatives that I would need to preserve and that has gone fine, with a portable drive I hookup and unhook once loaded - if I need the images for editting I have them on my main drive. If you load only images I think virus problems and other nasty things will not occur 99.99999% of the time.

Avoid putting other files such as music and programs on the drive as viruses can use these to exploit the drive.

Joel.

I decided as I travel constantly to invest in a portable harddrive
(Anypack + 60Gig drive) designed for a notebook HDD. If I wasn't
traveling I would have gone to a firewire desktop portable HDD as I
can go to about 200Gig for about the same price.

The portable drive is handy as I can take it on trips and upload
all images usually in hotels or in cafes via USB 2.0.

Joel

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[Rliotta]

I have never heard of a portable hard drive. Does it just store info or does it have a view screen? Could you clatify or give me the name of a product so I can look it up? Thanks.

I have all of them also on my hardrive always too so in many cases
I got 3 sets of copies.

I figure I've gone years and years with only one set of film
negatives that I would need to preserve and that has gone fine,
with a portable drive I hookup and unhook once loaded - if I need
the images for editting I have them on my main drive. If you load
only images I think virus problems and other nasty things will not
occur 99.99999% of the time.

Avoid putting other files such as music and programs on the drive
as viruses can use these to exploit the drive.

Joel.

I decided as I travel constantly to invest in a portable harddrive
(Anypack + 60Gig drive) designed for a notebook HDD. If I wasn't
traveling I would have gone to a firewire desktop portable HDD as I
can go to about 200Gig for about the same price.

The portable drive is handy as I can take it on trips and upload
all images usually in hotels or in cafes via USB 2.0.

Joel

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[Terry2]

I'd be interested in something like this, any time frame that anyone has heard?
Any other details??

theres this little cd burner that takes compact flash cards. its
fairly small, and lightwieght. also you could look up a image tank
or mass storage device, nikon has a coolwalker coming out soon that
will have some gigs of storage you just put the card in and itll
save to it. personally i use my pda for everything, i learned how
much i could do from this site

http://www.glasslantern.com/articles/PocketPCresources/index.htm

i have a compaq ipaq 3800 series and i love it i use pocket loupe
for raw conversions iff need be veiwing cause my pocket pcs screen
show better colors in my opinion than nikons screen and also it can
crop and show a histogram in rgb or in seperate colors. after that
use the pocket pc sleave to download to a 10 gig pcmia drive and
boom your dont and ready to upload to capture, finalize, and enjoy

 

[jkamphof]

A portable drive can come in a few different variations but the most popular are ones using regular desktop or laptop hardrives.

Basically a consumer must first buy the "case" this is the box that the hardrive will fit into and the USB or firewire will be attached to. Basically the case is a small aluminum box that nicely fits around the drive and allows it to work outside a regular computer desktop or laptop. A desktop HDD is about the size of a small novel and a laptop case is about the size of a slim cigarette pack (slims).

Most cases can run around $50-100 depending on whether you go USB 1, 2 or firewire or desktop/laptop. Nice cases are also more shockproof and sleeker.

After you have the case you can use an old or new hardrive - any drive will do - then open the case, put the drive in, close the case and install. 99% are plug and play so with XP you never need drivers.

There are waaaaayyy to many names to list but I have a laptop case and HDD - more expensive but way smaller than a desktop hardrive - but here's what I got

http://www.anypakusa.com/

Joel.

I have all of them also on my hardrive always too so in many cases
I got 3 sets of copies.

I figure I've gone years and years with only one set of film
negatives that I would need to preserve and that has gone fine,
with a portable drive I hookup and unhook once loaded - if I need
the images for editting I have them on my main drive. If you load
only images I think virus problems and other nasty things will not
occur 99.99999% of the time.

Avoid putting other files such as music and programs on the drive
as viruses can use these to exploit the drive.

Joel.

I decided as I travel constantly to invest in a portable harddrive
(Anypack + 60Gig drive) designed for a notebook HDD. If I wasn't
traveling I would have gone to a firewire desktop portable HDD as I
can go to about 200Gig for about the same price.

The portable drive is handy as I can take it on trips and upload
all images usually in hotels or in cafes via USB 2.0.

Joel

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[Terry2]

Very good post.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1023&message=8528718

I have all of them also on my hardrive always too so in many cases
I got 3 sets of copies.

I figure I've gone years and years with only one set of film
negatives that I would need to preserve and that has gone fine,
with a portable drive I hookup and unhook once loaded - if I need
the images for editting I have them on my main drive. If you load
only images I think virus problems and other nasty things will not
occur 99.99999% of the time.

Avoid putting other files such as music and programs on the drive
as viruses can use these to exploit the drive.

Joel.

I decided as I travel constantly to invest in a portable harddrive
(Anypack + 60Gig drive) designed for a notebook HDD. If I wasn't
traveling I would have gone to a firewire desktop portable HDD as I
can go to about 200Gig for about the same price.

The portable drive is handy as I can take it on trips and upload
all images usually in hotels or in cafes via USB 2.0.

Joel

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[PaulThePhotoMan]

Since you have them backed up several times it wouldn't matter... but I'd be more worried about a physical hard drive crash than viruses. Hard drives aren't designed to be carried around and are quite sensitive to shocks and bumps. (speaking from experience!)

Paul

I have all of them also on my hardrive always too so in many cases
I got 3 sets of copies.

I figure I've gone years and years with only one set of film
negatives that I would need to preserve and that has gone fine,
with a portable drive I hookup and unhook once loaded - if I need
the images for editting I have them on my main drive. If you load
only images I think virus problems and other nasty things will not
occur 99.99999% of the time.

Avoid putting other files such as music and programs on the drive
as viruses can use these to exploit the drive.

Joel.

I decided as I travel constantly to invest in a portable harddrive
(Anypack + 60Gig drive) designed for a notebook HDD. If I wasn't
traveling I would have gone to a firewire desktop portable HDD as I
can go to about 200Gig for about the same price.

The portable drive is handy as I can take it on trips and upload
all images usually in hotels or in cafes via USB 2.0.

Joel

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[gerards]

How can I backup a CF card to a USB "dongle" drive (the type that you just plug-in to a USB2 port...no interface...no software)? I have a 1.5 gig cigarette lighter-sized USB drive; Is there some simple interface to d/L my 512 MB CF card to that USB drive in the field?

g

Paul

I have all of them also on my hardrive always too so in many cases
I got 3 sets of copies.

I figure I've gone years and years with only one set of film
negatives that I would need to preserve and that has gone fine,
with a portable drive I hookup and unhook once loaded - if I need
the images for editting I have them on my main drive. If you load
only images I think virus problems and other nasty things will not
occur 99.99999% of the time.

Avoid putting other files such as music and programs on the drive
as viruses can use these to exploit the drive.

Joel.

I decided as I travel constantly to invest in a portable harddrive
(Anypack + 60Gig drive) designed for a notebook HDD. If I wasn't
traveling I would have gone to a firewire desktop portable HDD as I
can go to about 200Gig for about the same price.

The portable drive is handy as I can take it on trips and upload
all images usually in hotels or in cafes via USB 2.0.

Joel

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[JtH]

And like they always say

"We know nothing"

theres this little cd burner that takes compact flash cards. its
fairly small, and lightwieght. also you could look up a image tank
or mass storage device, nikon has a coolwalker coming out soon that
will have some gigs of storage you just put the card in and itll
save to it. personally i use my pda for everything, i learned how
much i could do from this site

http://www.glasslantern.com/articles/PocketPCresources/index.htm

i have a compaq ipaq 3800 series and i love it i use pocket loupe
for raw conversions iff need be veiwing cause my pocket pcs screen
show better colors in my opinion than nikons screen and also it can
crop and show a histogram in rgb or in seperate colors. after that
use the pocket pc sleave to download to a 10 gig pcmia drive and
boom your dont and ready to upload to capture, finalize, and enjoy

--
Jan ten Have
http://www.pbase.com/havejan/root

 

[jkamphof]

It's not much but usually the case will come with a padded wallet or leather case for carrying.

I use the drive most of the time for backing up and not carrying around. Even when travelling it is stored in a backpack and not in a pocket as I don't use it unless I need to back them up.

My options for backing up images are for storage and not for on-the-go uploading because your CF card is full. With this in mind there should be little reason why your drive would ever get bumped about. When I am not using the drive it either sits on my desk out of the sun or in my drawer waiting to be taken out and loaded up.

I think the reliability of a HDD is far superior to the faults of a CDR or DVDR as they scratch and dent and wear-out very quickly.

If you are looking for options for on-the-go and travelling with CF card slots and the like, maybe the options I mentioned are not worth looking into.

Joel

Paul

I have all of them also on my hardrive always too so in many cases
I got 3 sets of copies.

I figure I've gone years and years with only one set of film
negatives that I would need to preserve and that has gone fine,
with a portable drive I hookup and unhook once loaded - if I need
the images for editting I have them on my main drive. If you load
only images I think virus problems and other nasty things will not
occur 99.99999% of the time.

Avoid putting other files such as music and programs on the drive
as viruses can use these to exploit the drive.

Joel.

I decided as I travel constantly to invest in a portable harddrive
(Anypack + 60Gig drive) designed for a notebook HDD. If I wasn't
traveling I would have gone to a firewire desktop portable HDD as I
can go to about 200Gig for about the same price.

The portable drive is handy as I can take it on trips and upload
all images usually in hotels or in cafes via USB 2.0.

Joel

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[R-R]

Hi Paul

I suqqest that you get photoshop CS where is very good database options inside the program. At least I store my images first to HDD but after I have done all corrections (crop, image size etc...) I copy backup copy to DVD/CD (including original file from camera and variations). After I get my CS there hasn't been any problem to find and sort pictures.

For portable HDD good option is Archos Gmini 220. It's a very small and light weight. And it have good batterylife (approx. 10h).

I hope that helps you to make decissions

Raido

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[Huge]

Folks,

For Field storage I've not yet worked it out, however, for longer term storage, I would personally recommend keeping 2 (and preferably 3 copies) on at least 2 different types of media. For instance, 1 copy on HD and two on DVD/RW or DVD/RAM. The RW / DVD/RAM media are likely to prove more stable in the long term than CD/R or DVD/R as they are phase change media rather than organic dye based. Some tape solutions are also very good long term, but expensive (e.g. DLT).

I'm not a fan of HDDs for archive (it's not a question of if they fail, it just a matter of when they fail).

Hi there,

My D70 SHOULD be here in exactly one week's time (so long as the
store gets enough to fill their orders up to mine!!).

Anyway, I'm just wondering how you guys store your images? Do you
put them in folders by date?... or by subject? ... Do you use a
database program? (which ones?). Do you store them on HDD or CD/DVD?

Are there any sites on the net that could give me advice? I've
searched database programs but there are so many out there and I
have no idea what I'd need feature wise.

Thanks for any help
Paul

 

[TMacaw]

Thanks. I'm downloading IMatch now.

Is it at all possible to export part of the database + program onto
a CD so that I can send images to people? (I know BR's
Photoarchiver does this... but it's too buggy for me to use
reliably!).

Paul

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Not sure exactly how to respond. You will find Mario (IMatch author) to be helpful, knowledgeable and responsive to inquiries like yours. Send him a quick e-mail.
TMc