How to get backdrop to stick to wall.....

[LeicaEye]

Jam, post: 68097681, member: 10044"]
A client asked me for a photoshoot.

they want it in their "hallway"

But the background is "ugly"

... The BACK of the hallway has an ugly door and the client wants a "clean" background

I must say I don't understand the client's point of choosing that specific area, then wanting to conceal some of the characteristics of that specific area. Do you understand it rather than choosing an area that already has a nice background? Maybe it makes sense if it's just a head shot or upper body shot and you're going to use the side walls as light reflectors.

The client asked for it. so I guess it doesnt matter WHY.

> but to be fair, since you asked a question and i missed out on it: staple it to the wall, use needles, double sided tape, blue tack, use a tension string from floor to backdrop mount, heat glue it onto painters tape what protects the customers walls, build a fitting wooden frame to pin the backdrop onto.

I think this is a good learning experience for many people here.

When providing an answer - please make sure

1) the question is read and comprehended,

2) the response is directly correlated to the question

3) The forum is best used as a conversation - and not a Talk AT the questioner.

4) you may be skilled, very skilled, exceptionally skilled - but maybe, just maybe the person asking the question is as well.

5) lastly and MOST IMPORTANT - if you have no experience, no value add to the conversation - then by all means, don't say anything.

Re remark #4 - if the OP was skilled (a) he would not have asked the question! (b) really it’s a clickbait question!

So skilled people can't ask questions?

and how is it clickbait? please explain. I ran out of ideas on how to do a task, I asked the community for some assistance, and a small % of answers pertained to the question but most tried to question the question.

OH but that's right --- maybe your original answer proved to be the skilled answer I was looking for:::

<< I would suggest renting a studio and doing the whole shoot professionally. Lighting and setting up in the hallway would imho be somewhat iffy >>

Seriously - you said this - please tell me how this pertained to the original question?

Reading and comprehending -- it's a valuable skill.

But your probably right --- a Professional photoshoot is ONLY done in a studio.

Please don’t be a child! Many Shoots are done in many different circumstances. Believe me I can read and understand both the text and meanings between the lines.
People respond as to how they would either tackle the subject in question or point out a different way a professional might tackle the job.. When starting out, many will walk to the clients drumbeat! But, that’s not always a good decision. Sometimes a studio ‘shoot’ will frighten the inexperienced photographer. No one knows how experienced or not you are! All the answers to your OP are good, only you know (a) what you are capable of (b) your photographic tools (c) client skills.. Set up the hallway, use a Polaroid to show the +’s and -‘s of the location and discuss with your client.. Good Luck, Good Metering, Good Framing … Finally here’s to Good Clients…

 

[tugwilson]

Ah! I see you position more clearly.

You seem to be under the misapprehension that having started the thread you are able to control it and/or set the rules of engagement, or that there are existing universal rules of engagement. This is plainly untrue.

One of the really nice thing about this forum is that threads throw up interesting little insights by generalising the problem stated.

The site gives you the tools to control who you see content from.

 

[ZorSy]

how every second post turns into arguments, derail of the topic, get to brand bashing or gets labelled as a conspiracy.

Chill out guys.

A long time ago, when actively doing the (paid) photography I had been asked to do things many would not even consider - be it the nature of the job, location or the offered money. THE WORLD IS NOT PERFECT (shouting loud). It is unpleasant sometimes and requires strong guts to get through (without going in details).

OP asked a simple question, elaborated it well without going in details we even don't need to know as part of that client-professional confidentiality (be it photographer, medical practitioner or the priest, whatever).

I just said what I'd do on the tightest budget not to take away most of the fee (whatever it is), where I am and the stuff available as an IDEA - and that is what OP is looking for. Not everyone is a handyman - I'm not surprised seeing how many people cannot follow Ikea assembly instructions or seeing the big bloke waiting for the roadside service to fit the spare wheel....

For the sake of civility, perhaps some other posters should just read the OP.

BTW, this thread was moved from Open Talk into Lighting, if anyone noticed....

Cheers

 

[Jam]

Jam, post: 68097772, member: 1280091"]
A client asked me for a photoshoot.

they want it in their "hallway"

But the background is "ugly"

... The BACK of the hallway has an ugly door and the client wants a "clean" background

I must say I don't understand the client's point of choosing that specific area, then wanting to conceal some of the characteristics of that specific area. Do you understand it rather than choosing an area that already has a nice background? Maybe it makes sense if it's just a head shot or upper body shot and you're going to use the side walls as light reflectors.

The client asked for it. so I guess it doesnt matter WHY.

> but to be fair, since you asked a question and i missed out on it: staple it to the wall, use needles, double sided tape, blue tack, use a tension string from floor to backdrop mount, heat glue it onto painters tape what protects the customers walls, build a fitting wooden frame to pin the backdrop onto.

I think this is a good learning experience for many people here.

When providing an answer - please make sure

1) the question is read and comprehended,

2) the response is directly correlated to the question

3) The forum is best used as a conversation - and not a Talk AT the questioner.

4) you may be skilled, very skilled, exceptionally skilled - but maybe, just maybe the person asking the question is as well.

5) lastly and MOST IMPORTANT - if you have no experience, no value add to the conversation - then by all means, don't say anything.

Re remark #4 - if the OP was skilled (a) he would not have asked the question! (b) really it’s a clickbait question!

So skilled people can't ask questions?

and how is it clickbait? please explain. I ran out of ideas on how to do a task, I asked the community for some assistance, and a small % of answers pertained to the question but most tried to question the question.

OH but that's right --- maybe your original answer proved to be the skilled answer I was looking for:::

<< I would suggest renting a studio and doing the whole shoot professionally. Lighting and setting up in the hallway would imho be somewhat iffy >>

Seriously - you said this - please tell me how this pertained to the original question?

Reading and comprehending -- it's a valuable skill.

But your probably right --- a Professional photoshoot is ONLY done in a studio.

Please don’t be a child! Many Shoots are done in many different circumstances. Believe me I can read and understand both the text and meanings between the lines.
People respond as to how they would either tackle the subject in question or point out a different way a professional might tackle the job.. When starting out, many will walk to the clients drumbeat! But, that’s not always a good decision. Sometimes a studio ‘shoot’ will frighten the inexperienced photographer. No one knows how experienced or not you are! All the answers to your OP are good, only you know (a) what you are capable of (b) your photographic tools (c) client skills.. Set up the hallway, use a Polaroid to show the +’s and -‘s of the location and discuss with your client.. Good Luck, Good Metering, Good Framing … Finally here’s to Good Clients…

.... No one knows how experienced or not you are..... funny how you said I wasn't in your earlier post.....

how about this --- re read the OP and try your best to answer it --- if you can't then don't respond.........

 

[Jam]

Jam, post: 68097866, member: 10044"]
A client asked me for a photoshoot.

they want it in their "hallway"

But the background is "ugly"

... The BACK of the hallway has an ugly door and the client wants a "clean" background

I must say I don't understand the client's point of choosing that specific area, then wanting to conceal some of the characteristics of that specific area. Do you understand it rather than choosing an area that already has a nice background? Maybe it makes sense if it's just a head shot or upper body shot and you're going to use the side walls as light reflectors.

The client asked for it. so I guess it doesnt matter WHY.

> but to be fair, since you asked a question and i missed out on it: staple it to the wall, use needles, double sided tape, blue tack, use a tension string from floor to backdrop mount, heat glue it onto painters tape what protects the customers walls, build a fitting wooden frame to pin the backdrop onto.

I think this is a good learning experience for many people here.

When providing an answer - please make sure

1) the question is read and comprehended,

2) the response is directly correlated to the question

3) The forum is best used as a conversation - and not a Talk AT the questioner.

4) you may be skilled, very skilled, exceptionally skilled - but maybe, just maybe the person asking the question is as well.

5) lastly and MOST IMPORTANT - if you have no experience, no value add to the conversation - then by all means, don't say anything.

Re remark #4 - if the OP was skilled (a) he would not have asked the question! (b) really it’s a clickbait question!

So skilled people can't ask questions?

and how is it clickbait? please explain. I ran out of ideas on how to do a task, I asked the community for some assistance, and a small % of answers pertained to the question but most tried to question the question.

OH but that's right --- maybe your original answer proved to be the skilled answer I was looking for:::

<< I would suggest renting a studio and doing the whole shoot professionally. Lighting and setting up in the hallway would imho be somewhat iffy >>

Seriously - you said this - please tell me how this pertained to the original question?

Reading and comprehending -- it's a valuable skill.

But your probably right --- a Professional photoshoot is ONLY done in a studio.

Please don’t be a child! Many Shoots are done in many different circumstances. Believe me I can read and understand both the text and meanings between the lines.
People respond as to how they would either tackle the subject in question or point out a different way a professional might tackle the job.. When starting out, many will walk to the clients drumbeat! But, that’s not always a good decision. Sometimes a studio ‘shoot’ will frighten the inexperienced photographer. No one knows how experienced or not you are! All the answers to your OP are good, only you know (a) what you are capable of (b) your photographic tools (c) client skills.. Set up the hallway, use a Polaroid to show the +’s and -‘s of the location and discuss with your client.. Good Luck, Good Metering, Good Framing … Finally here’s to Good Clients…

.... No one knows how experienced or not you are..... funny how you said I wasn't in your earlier post.....

how about this --- re read the OP and try your best to answer it --- if you can't then don't respond.........

JUST answer the question and not make up your own question to answer.

 

[studio-retines]

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[A-Marc]

JUST answer the question and not make up your own question to answer.

i would be very interested in how your unique concept worked out in the end. Since you never told us what the actual shoot and lightning concept is, i would be very happy to see the results. The space i very limited in which you work in, so the set up must be genius. refute all the pessimistic assessments.

if the customer restrict publication, just a BTS of the setup does work.

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[24Peter]

jp pietro wrote
based on the photo, consider an adjustable shower curtain rod

+1

 

[rumple]

* If a client comes and asks me for something out of the ordinary. is it my job to attempt to figure it out and see if it is possible --- or is it the photographers responsibility to tell the client that the standard traditional way is better

Neither. The photographer is like a consultant. Discover the client's wants, determine what you think they need. if there is overlap between the two, great. If not, further discovery / discussion may result in the movement of want, need, or both until there is overlap.

And if there isn't going to be overlap at all or in a reasonable amount of time, deliver what they want.

..... this sounds a lot like mansplaining to me.

It's bringing professional experience and best practice to the engagement, resulting in a higher perception of value.

* number 2 - In this forum if a person asks a question - is it best to try and answer the question or to question the person and tell them their views.

I try to answer the question, then maybe inject some what-if.

This sounds a lot like Mansplaining to me.

Only if you know the recipient is female, the provider is male, and the tone is condescending.

Comment -- you wont believe this but sometime when you take a chance something great comes out.

Interested to see the result.

If the hallway paint is good, gaffer's tape is supposed to not damage paint. Although I've had mixed results. I'm partial to the previous ideas that pointed to a shower rod.

 

[Voyager7777]

Either use a collapsable backdrop/reflector leaning against the back wall or use a stand for it.

Alternative, light stand, super clamp on top, clamp a crossbar / pipe / tube / wood then use regular clamp to hold up fabric / paper.

Could use an autopole (or extendible shower curtain rod) between the two wall, but this might cause damage depending on the walls.