How is this image Out of Focus?

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So This image was shot using AF-S wide area large people

To my surprise The focus appears to be on the tip of shoes.

Looking at NX Studio, the red dot appears to be just above his eye's.

I'm confused...



See Screenshot from NX Studio

and the high quality jpeg untouched exported from XN studio



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Nikon Z7ii - Z70-200 @70mm f/6.3
Nikon Z7ii - Z70-200 @70mm f/6.3
 
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I've noticed that AF-C can pulse and flutter quite a bit, even when the subject is moving very slowly. Shots taken during a pulse will definitely be out of focus.
You know, at one point I feel confused. So let's get the difference between AF-C and AF-S sorted.

While on AF-C, The focus would continually search and reposition? or its only continually searching when I'm actually focusing by half pressing or back button focus?
In AF-C, it is continually trying to focus as long as you are giving it a command to do so. That means a half press of the shutter release, or pressing the BBF programmed button. In the default mode from the factory, the camera will always fire a shot when you press the shutter release in AF-C. It...
Question,

In AF-S with eye

if I bracket 3 shots while holding the BBF would it refocus before each shot while bracketing?

In other words: while bracketing in AF-S is each shot considered a new shot which requires a focus before it will releases the shutter? would the camera stop bracketing/firing if for any reason its can’t focus?
 
Question,

In AF-S with eye

if I bracket 3 shots while holding the BBF would it refocus before each shot while bracketing?
In other words: while bracketing in AF-S is each shot considered a new shot which requires a focus before it will releases the shutter? would the camera stop bracketing/firing if for any reason its can’t focus?
With AF-S, if you press and hold the back button, then there is no refocus. Once the camera finds focus, focus is done. If you want to refocus, you would release the button and then press it a second time.
 
No, AF-Single works just as it always has. It focuses one single time. Once it focuses, it stops, you can recompose, or your subject could move closer/farther, and you will be out of focus.

AF-Continuous does not work as it always has. AF-C is WAY more sensitive on Z's, and perhaps to a fault. With DSLR's you can hear the lens settle into focus. With Z's you can often hear the lens continually (nervously) adjusting, and often wanders out of focus. It is so sensitive that it reacts to your breathing. If you have a lens with focus breathing you'll notice the adjusting a lot more. I've focused on stationary subjects and in about 2.3 seconds noticed refocusing. Less so on my Z7II compared to other Z's.

The best example of this I can demonstrate is focusing on a cup of pens in Wide(L) or Full Area Auto. The camera will keep searching for the closest subject (or switching between contrast detection, I'm not 100% sure.) Some sort of setting is needed to favor the initial focusing point. I could this being incredibly frustrating when bracketing in a studio setting.

I used to leave my D500 in group AF-C and shot with more confidence regardless of what mode I was in. However, the accuracy and lens sharpness it that much better on Z's, at the cost of some missed photos, so I take more images as one should anyway. Nikon just needs to add some sensitivity settings that we could adjust accordingly. The g4 and g5 settings should accomplish this (YT Monochrome Memoires mentions this,) but I saw not noticeable difference in my tests.
Question,

In AF-S with eye

if I bracket 3 shots while holding the BBF would it refocus before each shot while bracketing?
In other words: while bracketing in AF-S is each shot considered a new shot which requires a focus before it will releases the shutter? would the camera stop bracketing/firing if for any reason its can’t focus?
 
Basically in studio I have to bracket manually…

Use the shutter release to focus instead of BBF.
those little kids will always move around. The trick is to capture the moment. So will have to do what I’m doing now, keep it AF-S eye, focus snap, focus snap, focus snap. The Z7ii focus speed is very fast. And for babies eye detect almost doesn’t work. I gota go pin point and joystick around.

From time to time I rethink if there is a better or more efficient way. So far for in studio shooting this is the best idea.
 
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This is also a classic example of capturing the moment.
The baby isn’t fully setup yet. Her older sister walked up talking to the baby. Like BIF, there is a split second decision… lucky it was f/5.6 for more DOF, but where would you focus on?

I made an exposure circle in ACR to bring the eyes attention to the center

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This is also a classic example of capturing the moment.
The baby isn’t fully setup yet. Her older sister walked up talking to the baby. Like BIF, there is a split second decision… lucky it was f/5.6 for more DOF, but where would you focus on?
I would focus on the baby's face in this instance. When hand holding I am always in AF-C. I am trying to hold still but being human there is always a very slight bit of movement which AF-C is tracking in real time whether single shots or shooting bursts. If you are used to seeing the green AF confirmation box in AF-S, of course you won't see that but it's just annoying to me.
 
This is also a classic example of capturing the moment.
The baby isn’t fully setup yet. Her older sister walked up talking to the baby. Like BIF, there is a split second decision… lucky it was f/5.6 for more DOF, but where would you focus on?
I would focus on the baby's face in this instance. When hand holding I am always in AF-C. I am trying to hold still but being human there is always a very slight bit of movement which AF-C is tracking in real time whether single shots or shooting bursts. If you are used to seeing the green AF confirmation box in AF-S, of course you won't see that but it's just annoying to me.
Yes, AF-C and eye detection is working very good, that is also my experience. The missing green box does not annoye me , i trust the AF system. But it is always safe to take more then 1 picture ofcourse.
 
This is also a classic example of capturing the moment.
The baby isn’t fully setup yet. Her older sister walked up talking to the baby. Like BIF, there is a split second decision… lucky it was f/5.6 for more DOF, but where would you focus on?
I would focus on the baby's face in this instance. When hand holding I am always in AF-C. I am trying to hold still but being human there is always a very slight bit of movement which AF-C is tracking in real time whether single shots or shooting bursts. If you are used to seeing the green AF confirmation box in AF-S, of course you won't see that but it's just annoying to me.
Yes, AF-C and eye detection is working very good, that is also my experience. The missing green box does not annoye me , i trust the AF system. But it is always safe to take more then 1 picture ofcourse.
Thanks, and what I meant was that the green box did annoy me in AF-S. In AF-C I like just watching the subject area snap cleanly into focus. Yes, definitely shoot a few if it's an important shot. Not only will slight differences in focus show up but general sharpness as well.
 

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