Guys, I need some serious help with my computer shutting down,

[amobi]

Are you sure it is overheating? The temperatures of the GPU and CPU posted would not normally cause a shutdown and might be expected when you are running something that pushes the system.

Something is causing it to shut down. I assumed it was overheating because the GPU gets very hot. However, with a different GPU, it no longer shuts down.

I had a computer with a 1080 Ti where the GPU caused shutdowns. I took it out and put it back in and the shutdowns stopped. It turned out to be the weight of the GPU over time had caused a poor connection to the motherboard with temperature changes. I added a support for the GPU.

My current computer with a Gigabyte Aorus Master RTX 4090 has a rigid support bracket to completely support the weight of the GPU with the computer case.

I'm considering building a new PC with Aorus Master X with RTX 4090. I hope that will solve all my problems.

I wonder if I could buy the bracket separately for my 3090 support.

 

[Billiam29]

I wonder if I could buy the bracket separately for my 3090 support.

If you're in a jam from getting work done, just get a piece of wood dowel rod for now and use it to support the 3090. There is quite likely somewhere horizontally flat(ish) on the GPU's fan shroud that you can use for temporary support. Just cut a length of dowel rod to fit in between this area on the GPU and the bottom of your case.

Personally, I still think your airflow being choked off by using the low slot is going to inhibit you but trying a piece of dowel rod for GPU support of the 3090 may be worth the relatively small time and money at the home improvement store. Just don't forget to also buy a cheapo wood saw to cut the rod while you're there if you don't already own one.

I'm still kind of baffled on how the GPU doesn't work in your top-most PCI-e slot. I'm not familiar with AMD board layouts though so this might be commonplace for all I know. Perhaps consider posting another thread asking for assistince with this. I just think there has to be a cheaper solution than a whole new computer. Different CPU cooler, new case, etc...

 

[Robert Zanatta]

Yes. My motherboard is Asus and I have used it for a couple different Nvidia cards.

 

[amobi]

I wonder if I could buy the bracket separately for my 3090 support.

If you're in a jam from getting work done, just get a piece of wood dowel rod for now and use it to support the 3090. There is quite likely somewhere horizontally flat(ish) on the GPU's fan shroud that you can use for temporary support. Just cut a length of dowel rod to fit in between this area on the GPU and the bottom of your case.

Personally, I still think your airflow being choked off by using the low slot is going to inhibit you but trying a piece of dowel rod for GPU support of the 3090 may be worth the relatively small time and money at the home improvement store. Just don't forget to also buy a cheapo wood saw to cut the rod while you're there if you don't already own one.

I'm still kind of baffled on how the GPU doesn't work in your top-most PCI-e slot. I'm not familiar with AMD board layouts though so this might be commonplace for all I know. Perhaps consider posting another thread asking for assistince with this. I just think there has to be a cheaper solution than a whole new computer. Different CPU cooler, new case, etc

I have already done what you suggested. I was able to move the GPU to the PCI slot near the CPU and use my tripod mount to prevent it from dropping.

So far the exports have reached 75% and still running. Before, once it reaches 30%, it will crash. Having my fingers crossed that it will make it to 100%

 

[amobi]

I am the happiest guy right now.

First, I moved the GPU to the PCIe slot near the CPU and used my tripod plate to support it and prevent it from dropping. Second, I installed MSI Afterburner and played with it. I didn't know what I was doing, so I can't say whether MSI Afterburner helped or not. I did tweak the GPU power a little. I'm not sure if I went up or down.

But I am almost positive that moving the GPU to the PCIe slot on the top slot did the trick. It gave the GPU breathing room to take in some air. It was very dumb of me not to have realized that. This thing ran so smoothly that I didn't even hear the GPU fan kick in. Usually, it kicks in after a few minutes of running with a loud whining noise.

I won't even bother building a new PC. You guys just saved me $5500, which I was planning on spending on it.

 

[BobKnDP]

I had a computer with a 1080 Ti where the GPU caused shutdowns. I took it out and put it back in and the shutdowns stopped. It turned out to be the weight of the GPU over time had caused a poor connection to the motherboard with temperature changes. I added a support for the GPU.

My current computer with a Gigabyte Aorus Master RTX 4090 has a rigid support bracket to completely support the weight of the GPU with the computer case.

It is for this very reason (the size and weight of current top end GPUs) that I only use cases that support HORIZONTAL motherboards.

I am just finishing up a new build using an Asus BT502 case that I modified to sit horizontally (not difficult, just had to reposition the feet). But I did add a LOT of fans to the build. I have 6 fans sucking outside air into the case and 5 fans (3x on the GPU and 2x on the CPU water cooler) blowing air out of the case.

One thing that bothered me when I was shopping for a new case, was the absolute dearth of horizontal cases or even cases designed for both horizontal and vertical use. And that is why I ended up doing it myself. The horizontal motherboard in a dual compartment case allows for a very nice clean build with excellent access to the electronic components.

Some of us manage with a vertical motherboard plus a brace for the graphics card. I use that. The brace was provided by the case maker (Lian-Li), rather than aftermarket.

Another alternative is a vertical MB plus a separate vertical mount for the card (with a PCI-E riser). That seems to be commonly used by builders who want the LEDs in their cards to be visible through the case's window.

I don't mean to suggest that there is anything wrong with horizontal cases. (Except perhaps their footprints.) I expect they'll remain in the minority, though.

 

[BobKnDP]

That's good. I'm pleasantly surprised that it made that much of a difference.

 

[RLight]

I am the happiest guy right now.

First, I moved the GPU to the PCIe slot near the CPU and used my tripod plate to support it and prevent it from dropping. Second, I installed MSI Afterburner and played with it. I didn't know what I was doing, so I can't say whether MSI Afterburner helped or not. I did tweak the GPU power a little. I'm not sure if I went up or down.

But I am almost positive that moving the GPU to the PCIe slot on the top slot did the trick. It gave the GPU breathing room to take in some air. It was very dumb of me not to have realized that. This thing ran so smoothly that I didn't even hear the GPU fan kick in. Usually, it kicks in after a few minutes of running with a loud whining noise.

I won't even bother building a new PC. You guys just saved me $5500, which I was planning on spending on it.

It's a good card, I wouldn't replace it.

When you have the time, you should double back and look at the Afterburner software and become acquainted with it, with that kind of card, at the least.

At the most? Many a bit-coin miner, swapped out the default thermal pads on the GDDR memory chips with GELID thermal pads, and replaced the GPU grease with better stuff. The GELID pads are key though, which if you note on your thermals? Your GPU is hot, but your GDDR's memory peak temps (100c), are hotter, that's typical in fact. You should be able to squeeze more performance out of it after, too, not just stabilize it by improving the cooling situation.

Again, I'd aim to "fix it" before optimizing it though, and not when you have a workload backlog to attend to as it may take some trial and error over a couple days, or a single day, if you're dedicated

This is par for the course...

https://chatgpt.com/share/64b27d75-3899-4800-880c-9219695ebb29

Now I wanted ChatGPT to search the web and give me a real thread, however, this is VERY typical, and comical. Worth sharing, heh.

BTW, Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut Paste, is the best for paste anyways. GELID pads, are the best, for pads. The GDDR is going to be your weakest link. Don't bother with Liquid Metal on a card like this unless you really know what you're doing, and even then? Still wouldn't.

 

[tko]

Are are the internal fans running? Is there a lot of dust? That's my most common issue. I mean, the electronic parts that determine temperature rise don't change, but the dust build up sure does. Clean w/a shop vac or spray can. I've heard you shouldn't spin the fans too fast w/air blowing on them due to the back voltage being generated, not sure if I believe that but be careful.

CPU, graphics, and case fans could all cause this. Check any air filters as well (take them out and wash them.)

 

[BobKnDP]

I am the happiest guy right now.

First, I moved the GPU to the PCIe slot near the CPU and used my tripod plate to support it and prevent it from dropping. Second, I installed MSI Afterburner and played with it. I didn't know what I was doing, so I can't say whether MSI Afterburner helped or not. I did tweak the GPU power a little. I'm not sure if I went up or down.

But I am almost positive that moving the GPU to the PCIe slot on the top slot did the trick. It gave the GPU breathing room to take in some air. It was very dumb of me not to have realized that. This thing ran so smoothly that I didn't even hear the GPU fan kick in. Usually, it kicks in after a few minutes of running with a loud whining noise.

I won't even bother building a new PC. You guys just saved me $5500, which I was planning on spending on it.

It's a good card, I wouldn't replace it.

When you have the time, you should double back and look at the Afterburner software and become acquainted with it, with that kind of card, at the least.

At the most? Many a bit-coin miner, swapped out the default thermal pads on the GDDR memory chips with GELID thermal pads, and replaced the GPU grease with better stuff. The GELID pads are key though, which if you note on your thermals? Your GPU is hot, but your GDDR's memory peak temps (100c), are hotter, that's typical in fact. You should be able to squeeze more performance out of it after, too, not just stabilize it by improving the cooling situation.

Again, I'd aim to "fix it" before optimizing it though, and not when you have a workload backlog to attend to as it may take some trial and error over a couple days, or a single day, if you're dedicated

This is par for the course...

https://chatgpt.com/share/64b27d75-3899-4800-880c-9219695ebb29

Now I wanted ChatGPT to search the web and give me a real thread, however, this is VERY typical, and comical. Worth sharing, heh.

BTW, Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut Paste, is the best for paste anyways. GELID pads, are the best, for pads. The GDDR is going to be your weakest link. Don't bother with Liquid Metal on a card like this unless you really know what you're doing, and even then? Still wouldn't.

I have no personal experience, but I've read recommendations for Noctua NT-H2 . Not because it has better performance when new than the Kryonaut, but rather because it might need to be re-pasted less often.

Third-party high-end cards vary as regards cooling. I have a Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC. Its VRAM cooling is better than some, but I'm not sure that the processor core or "hot spot" run any cooler. The fan noise is a bit loud when the card is cranked up to 600W. (Default is 450W.) I've never had a crash, but I don't do video work. The card never runs flat-out for extended periods.

 

[BratPix]

I'm experiencing an issue with my computer shutting down when I'm exporting video in Davinci due to overheating. I'm unsure if the Graphics card or the CPU is causing the shutdown, but I can tell that the graphics card gets extremely hot. I even placed the computer close to my air conditioning unit on the side wall, hoping it would help cool it down. Is there a way to troubleshoot and determine what is causing the shutdown? This issue hasn't occurred in the past, but it has gotten worse lately. Most clips were shot in 5.9k in a 4k timeline in Davinci, then exported in 2k. It shuts down around 30% of the exports. The GPU is the RTX 3090, and the CPU is the Ryzen 9 3950X.

I am stuck with a lot of client work that I can't export, and the due date has passed. I am considering building a new computer, but time is not on my side.

Have you thought about cleaning the air vents of your computer?

 

[Dick Dastardly]

Remove the side panel of the computer. This allows for better cooling. Check for dust or issues with the cpu cooler since you're there.

See if the mobo automatically overclocks the cpu(if it does, not sure how to deal with that except underclocking or undervolting it, i'm a intel user myself).

Then modify all existing settings so that the cpu and gpu run below maximum performance(set cpu maximum state to 90% for example and underclock the gpu).

You don't need the computer running at 100% to get the job done!

If the computer still has issues it means you need to replace the cpu cooler and termal paste or maybe the motherboard!

PS If you don't know how to see the temps on the gpu and cpu you're probably going to need help from someone who knows more about computers. The issue here is not the cpu or gpu, it's either user error or the motherboard issue, which was discussed i think by Gamers Nexus in relation to a certain AMD cpu paired with certain mobos.

 

[amobi]

I'm experiencing an issue with my computer shutting down when I'm exporting video in Davinci due to overheating. I'm unsure if the Graphics card or the CPU is causing the shutdown, but I can tell that the graphics card gets extremely hot. I even placed the computer close to my air conditioning unit on the side wall, hoping it would help cool it down. Is there a way to troubleshoot and determine what is causing the shutdown? This issue hasn't occurred in the past, but it has gotten worse lately. Most clips were shot in 5.9k in a 4k timeline in Davinci, then exported in 2k. It shuts down around 30% of the exports. The GPU is the RTX 3090, and the CPU is the Ryzen 9 3950X.

I am stuck with a lot of client work that I can't export, and the due date has passed. I am considering building a new computer, but time is not on my side.

Have you thought about cleaning the air vents of your computer?

The fans are dirty, but the vents are not too bad

 

[RLight]

I am the happiest guy right now.

First, I moved the GPU to the PCIe slot near the CPU and used my tripod plate to support it and prevent it from dropping. Second, I installed MSI Afterburner and played with it. I didn't know what I was doing, so I can't say whether MSI Afterburner helped or not. I did tweak the GPU power a little. I'm not sure if I went up or down.

But I am almost positive that moving the GPU to the PCIe slot on the top slot did the trick. It gave the GPU breathing room to take in some air. It was very dumb of me not to have realized that. This thing ran so smoothly that I didn't even hear the GPU fan kick in. Usually, it kicks in after a few minutes of running with a loud whining noise.

I won't even bother building a new PC. You guys just saved me $5500, which I was planning on spending on it.

It's a good card, I wouldn't replace it.

When you have the time, you should double back and look at the Afterburner software and become acquainted with it, with that kind of card, at the least.

At the most? Many a bit-coin miner, swapped out the default thermal pads on the GDDR memory chips with GELID thermal pads, and replaced the GPU grease with better stuff. The GELID pads are key though, which if you note on your thermals? Your GPU is hot, but your GDDR's memory peak temps (100c), are hotter, that's typical in fact. You should be able to squeeze more performance out of it after, too, not just stabilize it by improving the cooling situation.

Again, I'd aim to "fix it" before optimizing it though, and not when you have a workload backlog to attend to as it may take some trial and error over a couple days, or a single day, if you're dedicated

This is par for the course...

https://chatgpt.com/share/64b27d75-3899-4800-880c-9219695ebb29

Now I wanted ChatGPT to search the web and give me a real thread, however, this is VERY typical, and comical. Worth sharing, heh.

BTW, Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut Paste, is the best for paste anyways. GELID pads, are the best, for pads. The GDDR is going to be your weakest link. Don't bother with Liquid Metal on a card like this unless you really know what you're doing, and even then? Still wouldn't.

I have no personal experience, but I've read recommendations for Noctua NT-H2 . Not because it has better performance when new than the Kryonaut, but rather because it might need to be re-pasted less often.

Third-party high-end cards vary as regards cooling. I have a Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC. Its VRAM cooling is better than some, but I'm not sure that the processor core or "hot spot" run any cooler. The fan noise is a bit loud when the card is cranked up to 600W. (Default is 450W.) I've never had a crash, but I don't do video work. The card never runs flat-out for extended periods.

All pastes dry. Liquid Metal on the other hand? But that’s risky, and you have to be, or should be, experienced for that.

 

[GodSpeaks]

Some of us manage with a vertical motherboard plus a brace for the graphics card. I use that. The brace was provided by the case maker (Lian-Li), rather than aftermarket.

Another alternative is a vertical MB plus a separate vertical mount for the card (with a PCI-E riser). That seems to be commonly used by builders who want the LEDs in their cards to be visible through the case's window.

I don't mean to suggest that there is anything wrong with horizontal cases. (Except perhaps their footprints.) I expect they'll remain in the minority, though.

Yes, for many your solution is what is used, but I wonder if that is because there are so few horizontal cases available. The thing is, that it would be quite easy for manufacturers to design a case that could be used both ways. Basically all it would involve is using feet that can be easily moved. In my case, I had to drill 8 holes in the "side panel" to accommodate the feet relocation. Now the "side panel" is the bottom.

One problem with the vertical MB is when you install that riser to seat the GPU, you also end up blocking access to the other MB card slots. That's ok if you are not using any additional add-in cards, but I do. In fact I have 3 add-in cards installed, in addition to the GPU.

I am sure many would NOT like the fact that the computer now needs desktop space. On the desktop, access to ports now becomes so easy, as does peeking inside to see the boot status LEDs. I have been using horizontal cases for about 15 years or so and just cannot imagine going back to a vertical case. On the desktop, the computer encounters far far less dust than it does on the floor, which I consider another big plus. The only downside is that it does take up a fair amount of space. I use a dining table as my workstation, so I do have the space.

As you say, I expect horizontal cases will remain in the minority, but manufacturers could help if they would design dual use cases.

Now that I have completed the build, I am struggling with installing Windows 11 (my first venture in the Win11 world). I absolutely hate MS and the way the keep juggling where the setting are located and what setting they decided you are no longer allowed to alter, such as the position of the taskbar and how they have made file management more difficult in explorer by moving many frequently used commands to other options on right click, such as delete, copy or paste.

I am also not too fond of Asus software (Armory Crate). It seems exceedingly bloated for what it is supposed to do.

--
The greatest of mankind's criminals are those who delude themselves into thinking they have done 'the right thing.'
- Rayna Butler

 

[BobKnDP]

I'm not much into hacks, but there is a simple Registry one to restore the full context menu.

How to Get the Old Context Menus Back in Windows 11 (howtogeek.com)

I don't install Armoury Crate. Asus wants to install it automatically, by default. There's a BIOS setting to opt out of that.