DSLR without usb C doomed in EU ? Maybe?

[Holger Bargen]

From Dec 2024 all electronic devices must have usb C charging in EU. Is it likely that camera manufacturers are going to adapt older DSLR cameras to meet this legislation?

Who knows but it may give manufacturers a nudge to drop DSLR's completely by then. No doubt Ricoh will modify theirs.

Pentax K3iii has USB-C charging device.

Pentax KF and K1ii seem not to have it. However, they are not meant to be charged by USB cable, but the battery has to be charged in a charging device. There is no law that forces battery chargers to have USB-C.

All other Pentax DSLR cameras are not sold as new - as far as I know ...

 

[Chris LL]

No. It only applies to new devices. Next question.

 

[FrancoD]

No. It only applies to new devices. Next question.

Not exactly...

It applies to all devices sold ...:

by the end of 2024, all mobile phones, tablets and cameras* sold in the EU will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C charging port. From spring 2026, the obligation will extend to laptops.

(plus all devices " that are rechargeable via a wired cable, operating with a power delivery of up to 100 Watts, will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C port")

From the EU commision site.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news...-for-mobile-devices-will-be-a-reality-in-2024

That means that importers/wholesalers and retailers have to sell all non compliant stock before those dates or shift it to countries that will not have the same requirement by then.

 

[MarshallG]

My Canon DSLRs couldn’t charge via USB. It was only my USB-C equipped R5 came out that in-camera charging was supported. Not sure about Sony and Nikon though.

 

[Mako2011]

That means that importers/wholesalers and retailers have to sell all non compliant stock before those dates or shift it to countries that will not have the same requirement by then.

I don't think that's the case. Reading the wording, that stock just needs to support USB-C charging so any work around is OK, MO. Different for New products on the market after 2024 starts. Will have to see

 

[nikonkjs]

I wonder if the camera manufacturers can get around this by including usb c chargeable batteries like these...

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www.smallrig.com

I'd prefer to have the option to charge without the wear and tear on the usb c port in the camera body.

 

[commiebiker]

I wonder if the camera manufacturers can get around this by including usb c chargeable batteries like these...

https://www.smallrig.com/smallrig-EN-EL15c-USB-C-Rechargeable-Camera-Battery-4332.html

I'd prefer to have the option to charge without the wear and tear on the usb c port in the camera body.

Why can't you just use existing chargers designed to work in your car or other USB connections

and...

who the hell wants to have a camera attached to a charger to refresh the battery?

 

[FrancoD]

That means that importers/wholesalers and retailers have to sell all non compliant stock before those dates or shift it to countries that will not have the same requirement by then.

I don't think that's the case. Reading the wording, that stock just needs to support USB-C charging so any work around is OK, MO. Different for New products on the market after 2024 starts. Will have to see

where did you get that "support" bit from the article posted by the European Parliament ?

This article, the one I linked to :

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news...-for-mobile-devices-will-be-a-reality-in-2024

I see...

I think you misunderstood this part :

Regardless of their manufacturer, all new mobile phones, tablets, digital cameras, headphones and headsets, handheld videogame consoles and portable speakers, e-readers, keyboards, mice, portable navigation systems, earbuds and laptops that are rechargeable via a wired cable, operating with a power delivery of up to 100 Watts, will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C port.

All devices that support fast charging will now have the same charging speed, allowing users to charge their devices at the same speed with any compatible charger.

 

[Chris Wolfgram]

From Dec 2024 all electronic devices must have usb C charging in EU. Is it likely that camera manufacturers are going to adapt older DSLR cameras to meet this legislation?

But wait, what is the reasoning for this legislation ?

Who knows but it may give manufacturers a nudge to drop DSLR's completely by then. No doubt Ricoh will modify theirs.

 

[sybersitizen]

No. It only applies to new devices. Next question.

Not exactly...

It applies to all devices sold ...:

by the end of 2024, all mobile phones, tablets and cameras* sold in the EU will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C charging port. From spring 2026, the obligation will extend to laptops.

That exact wording makes very little sense. Can the ruling really apply to all cameras sold in the EU? Even cameras that were never designed for charging batteries, and that rely instead on external chargers only?

(plus all devices " that are rechargeable via a wired cable, operating with a power delivery of up to 100 Watts, will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C port")

From the EU commision site.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news...-for-mobile-devices-will-be-a-reality-in-2024

That means that importers/wholesalers and retailers have to sell all non compliant stock before those dates or shift it to countries that will not have the same requirement by then.

 

[FrancoD]

From Dec 2024 all electronic devices must have usb C charging in EU. Is it likely that camera manufacturers are going to adapt older DSLR cameras to meet this legislation?

But wait, what is the reasoning for this legislation ?

Who knows but it may give manufacturers a nudge to drop DSLR's completely by then. No doubt Ricoh will modify theirs.

The idea is that the consumer does not need to buy a new adaptor everytime he buys a new gadget and so that he can just have one charger and use it for all.

(BTW, I don't work for the EU commision...)

 

[Chris Wolfgram]

From Dec 2024 all electronic devices must have usb C charging in EU. Is it likely that camera manufacturers are going to adapt older DSLR cameras to meet this legislation?

But wait, what is the reasoning for this legislation ?

Who knows but it may give manufacturers a nudge to drop DSLR's completely by then. No doubt Ricoh will modify theirs.

The idea is that the consumer does not need to buy a new adaptor everytime he buys a new gadget and so that he can just have one charger and use it for all.

(BTW, I don't work for the EU commision...)

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[Mako2011]

I don't think that's the case. Reading the wording, that stock just needs to support USB-C charging so any work around is OK, MO. Different for New products on the market after 2024 starts. Will have to see

where did you get that "support" bit from the article posted by the European Parliament ?

From reading the entire law, and Apples response so far, It seems "support" is the correct term. Have to see after Jan 1st...

 

[DAD519]

The last one I bought more than 2 years back was already USB-C. They will make changes to new gear as needed.

 

[Fogel70]

I don't think that's the case. Reading the wording, that stock just needs to support USB-C charging so any work around is OK, MO. Different for New products on the market after 2024 starts. Will have to see

where did you get that "support" bit from the article posted by the European Parliament ?

From reading the entire law, and Apples response so far, It seems "support" is the correct term. Have to see after Jan 1st...

As I understand the deadline is set to Dec 28 2024.

 

[Mako2011]

From reading the entire law, and Apples response so far, It seems "support" is the correct term. Have to see after Jan 1st...

As I understand the deadline is set to Dec 28 2024.

Yep...my bad.

 

[Mark B.]

From Dec 2024 all electronic devices must have usb C charging in EU. Is it likely that camera manufacturers are going to adapt older DSLR cameras to meet this legislation?

If there are still any DSLRs actually being manufactured, then those products will need to have the USB-C port - and only if that is the only means of charging the battery. If there is an external charger, that will need to have the USB-C port. But it won't apply to products that have already been produced prior to the required date.

 

[Mark B.]

Why? This EU law is being enacted from Dec 2024. Every electronic appliance with a removable or separate battery MUST have built in usb c charging .

They are NOT going to retro-fit exsisting products.

 

[egk4260]

Our EU importers advised us today that all our products must have usb c built in or they cannot be sold from Dec 2024. The legislation was passed in 2022 with two years to sell through existing products. I see other people including Mr T Hogan have picked up on this..

Are they new products (even if just adaptations of older ones) since the law was passed ? As far as DSLRs are concerned, how many new DSLRs have been introduced since 2022 ? I can think of one Pentax …..

If that is the case the whole debate on interpretation of enforcement in EU fourteen months from now may be irrelevant unless Ricoh/Pentax suddenly comes to life. A single EU compatible mid cycle APS-C DSLR with limited acceptance is not going to push others to retrofit. It seems DSLR sales are declining but still quite strong in EU and Canada/US but many suggest that is due mainly to sales of entry level low profit offerings from Canon/?Nikon which are not going to see retrofits. In Japan, where decisions are made, it appears the DSLR market is all but dead.

 

[Rene Gr]

From Dec 2024 all electronic devices must have usb C charging in EU. Is it likely that camera manufacturers are going to adapt older DSLR cameras to meet this legislation?

Who knows but it may give manufacturers a nudge to drop DSLR's completely by then. No doubt Ricoh will modify theirs.

For sure, only new equipment will fall under this. Note also, that chargers need to state clearly their capabilities, so the user can decide if a new one is needed. This is unfortunately effective only at start of 2025, and the laptops may get proprietary charging devices until end of 2026.