Does anyone else wish the Canon ON/OFF switch was around the shutter button instead of on the left?

[RichW]

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[MikeJ9116]

I wouldn't want it around the shutter button. I do love where the power on/off switch is for the SL2/3. It is so convenient to switch with the thumb on the grip hand. This means I can move the camera to my face and turn it on in one smooth motion. Then turn it off just as easily when I am done. I have gotten so used to this that is is just automatic for me to turn the camera on and off without even thinking about it. The movie mode is also on this switch which makes it even more convenient.

 

[MikeJ9116]

The SL2 has one of the best power on/off switches, IMO. It is so easy to use with the grip hand. It makes one handed power on/off motions seamless when bringing the camera to the face using the thumb.

 

[used5dsquared]

I rather like what Canon has to offer, but one (admittedly small) thing that drives me nuts is the on/off switch being on the left. I'm someone who is always turning my camera off and on, and when I'm walking around, I'm holding my camera in one hand. when i see a shot, i turn on the camera with one hand while raising it to my eye, so it's ready to shoot by the time i see the scene in my camera. but with the canon I have to use two hands to turn it on, so it causes a slight delay, which in rare cases can miss the shot. do canon shooters just rely on power save/sleep mode and half press the shutter to wake it? does it bug anyone else?

i turn my camera on/off a lot cause i tend to be ultra conservative with my batteries, but admittedly i probably don't have to do this as much anymore with modern cameras (actually i wonder if i'm using up more battery by powering on the camera frequently, even with various start up/power down functions disabled).

(and no, this isn't a troll post, i'm just particular with muscle memory/ergonomics and wondered if canon's on/off switch placement was a small transition for anyone else.)

And risk accidentally turning it off when I go to use the camera? No thanks.

I'm glad it's around the Mode Dial. Turn it on, set your mode, move to the right side of the camera for shooting purposes. Plus I always use two hands when shooting with the camera, less chance of shaking that way.

 

[nurf]

Well R5 sadly turns on as soon as the sensor in the viewfindet detects something near it.

Like a backpack the camera is in, or you hand or hip when carrying it on a strap.

 

[nurf]

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[Alastair Norcross]

I agree with the preference for the on/off switch being on the right (not necessarily round the shutter button), so it can be operated with the same hand that's usually holding the camera. I also like having the menu button on the right, for the same reason. The placement of the on/off switch and menu buttons on my M6II are perfect, for my uses. Both are on the left on my R, which makes them less convenient (for me). These are minor points, but I definitely notice the gain in convenience when using my M6II. The placement of the menu button is actually more important to me, because I tend to use it more often.

 

[Steve Balcombe]

Nope, but I would prefer a ultra low power sleep version. So whenever the camera goes to sleep it is not doing anything behind the scenes like gps/wifi function draining the battery.

canon's sleep mode leaves the gps and wifi on?

The 7D Mark II left GPS on while in Sleep mode which did nothing for the battery life. I think this was so it would be ready whenever the camera was woken up, rather than having to wait for the GPS to initialise and establish the location - which could take anything up to a couple of minutes.

The 5D Mark IV introduced the option of disabling GPS in Sleep mode, which is what I did. It did result in some slightly wild GPS locations on occasion but I was willing to live with that.

 

[mermaidkiller]

Well R5 sadly turns on as soon as the sensor in the viewfindet detects something near it.

Like a backpack the camera is in, or you hand or hip when carrying it on a strap.

Same with R6.
I hope (but don't expect) that they fix this in a firmware update, that waking up the camera only occurs when pressing the shutter button halfway (or a user redefined other button).
Same applies to 'eco mode' which does not work at all when reviewing photos or when in a menu.

 

[cosmicnode]

I have used Nikon DSLR and mirrorless since the D70 in 2005, I pick up the camera, right hand on the body, left hand on the lens, and as I do so I turn on the switch with my index finger which I then rest over the shutter button. It is ready to shoot by the time it reaches my eye, as I put it down I automatically switch it off. I also use Olympus and the on off switch is on the left Instead of using one hand to raise and turn the camera, I now have to make a conscious decision to "turn it on" with my left hand, then grasp the lens, there are many times I get it up to my eye and find I have it switched off, move my hand off the lens and then turn it on. I often pick this camera up and find it timed out meaning I have to switch it off and back on again. Around the shutter button is very easy and quick to switch off and on whenever needed one handed.

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[100pk]

My R was terrible with wifi/gps on

 

[Larawanista]

Nope. I hardly care where it is. When I heavily use my camera, I hardly have to turn it on or off. On its own, it shuts down (for a couple of mins when not in use) and powers up (as soon as I operate it again) so the only time I turn it on is from my camera bag and off when it's going back in.

Same for me

Are we lazy or what? Then we complain about battery life!

lol it really takes no effort when the switch is around the shutter though! as soon as my arm goes down, my finger just flips the switch to OFF without having to adjust my grip or anything...feels very easy and natural. but like i said, just my personal muscle memory

Older people are more resistant to retraining their muscle memory. There was research that people above 60yo held to their Blackberries for two more years before finally moving to a touchscreen iPhone.

 

[eleison24]

Nope. I hardly care where it is. When I heavily use my camera, I hardly have to turn it on or off. On its own, it shuts down (for a couple of mins when not in use) and powers up (as soon as I operate it again) so the only time I turn it on is from my camera bag and off when it's going back in.

Same for me

Are we lazy or what? Then we complain about battery life!

lol it really takes no effort when the switch is around the shutter though! as soon as my arm goes down, my finger just flips the switch to OFF without having to adjust my grip or anything...feels very easy and natural. but like i said, just my personal muscle memory

Older people are more resistant to retraining their muscle memory. There was research that people above 60yo held to their Blackberries for two more years before finally moving to a touchscreen iPhone.

Retraining takes time. Older people don't have time to waste. When moving to new technology, sometimes it's not all it's cracked up to be. I have a sony a7iii. The power button is on the right side. I just bought an R5. I miss having the power button on the right side. I am so use to turning the a7iii on and off with my right hand. I have a wrist strap so I don't worry about dropping the camera. It's so convenient. The R5 forces me to use both hands. I also use to have the 7d; the power button is on the left side and I never felt it was cumbersome to use.... so it might be I just have to get use to turning the R5 off and on with two hands.

 

[Steve Balcombe]

Nope. I hardly care where it is. When I heavily use my camera, I hardly have to turn it on or off. On its own, it shuts down (for a couple of mins when not in use) and powers up (as soon as I operate it again) so the only time I turn it on is from my camera bag and off when it's going back in.

Same for me

Are we lazy or what? Then we complain about battery life!

lol it really takes no effort when the switch is around the shutter though! as soon as my arm goes down, my finger just flips the switch to OFF without having to adjust my grip or anything...feels very easy and natural. but like i said, just my personal muscle memory

Older people are more resistant to retraining their muscle memory. There was research that people above 60yo held to their Blackberries for two more years before finally moving to a touchscreen iPhone.

I won't deny that younger people learn faster, but older people are also more resistant to throwing out a perfectly good phone to replace it with the latest thing. I met someone a week or two ago who told me that *nine years* previously she had dropped her Nokia phone and the removable back (remember those?!) popped off and was lost. She then pulled it out of her pocket to show me that she was still using it with no back!

BTW the conversation had started with a discussion about an older couple who had asked for directions, and I commented after they had gone on their way that surely everybody uses Google maps nowadays and has no need to ask. I imagine they didn't have a smartphone between them, but then it turned out that my acquaintance didn't have one either! I'm also over 60 and wouldn't be without a smartphone - but I did skip several generations before upgrading to a Galaxy S21+.

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[nurf]

..or during wifi transfer. I don't need to see it on the large display. The red LED is enough to tell me when its done.

 

[Larawanista]

Nope. I hardly care where it is. When I heavily use my camera, I hardly have to turn it on or off. On its own, it shuts down (for a couple of mins when not in use) and powers up (as soon as I operate it again) so the only time I turn it on is from my camera bag and off when it's going back in.

Same for me

Are we lazy or what? Then we complain about battery life!

lol it really takes no effort when the switch is around the shutter though! as soon as my arm goes down, my finger just flips the switch to OFF without having to adjust my grip or anything...feels very easy and natural. but like i said, just my personal muscle memory

Older people are more resistant to retraining their muscle memory. There was research that people above 60yo held to their Blackberries for two more years before finally moving to a touchscreen iPhone.

I won't deny that younger people learn faster, but older people are also more resistant to throwing out a perfectly good phone to replace it with the latest thing. I met someone a week or two ago who told me that *nine years* previously she had dropped her Nokia phone and the removable back (remember those?!) popped off and was lost. She then pulled it out of her pocket to show me that she was still using it with no back!

BTW the conversation had started with a discussion about an older couple who had asked for directions, and I commented after they had gone on their way that surely everybody uses Google maps nowadays and has no need to ask. I imagine they didn't have a smartphone between them, but then it turned out that my acquaintance didn't have one either! I'm also over 60 and wouldn't be without a smartphone - but I did skip several generations before upgrading to a Galaxy S21+.

--

https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevebalcombe/ or
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/stevebalcombe/popular-interesting/

That's a good value to possess actually, versus people who keep upgrading for the sake of.

Wow, I used to drive around the US on my rental using the Magellan Never Lost GPS device, and I was still often lost Can't imagine how people can navigate these days without Google maps.

 

[Sittatunga]

1. Larawanista wrote:

Nope. I hardly care where it is. When I heavily use my camera, I hardly have to turn it on or off. On its own, it shuts down (for a couple of mins when not in use) and powers up (as soon as I operate it again) so the only time I turn it on is from my camera bag and off when it's going back in.

Same for me

Are we lazy or what? Then we complain about battery life!

lol it really takes no effort when the switch is around the shutter though! as soon as my arm goes down, my finger just flips the switch to OFF without having to adjust my grip or anything...feels very easy and natural. but like i said, just my personal muscle memory

Older people are more resistant to retraining their muscle memory. There was research that people above 60yo held to their Blackberries for two more years before finally moving to a touchscreen iPhone.

I won't deny that younger people learn faster, but older people are also more resistant to throwing out a perfectly good phone to replace it with the latest thing. I met someone a week or two ago who told me that *nine years* previously she had dropped her Nokia phone and the removable back (remember those?!) popped off and was lost. She then pulled it out of her pocket to show me that she was still using it with no back!

BTW the conversation had started with a discussion about an older couple who had asked for directions, and I commented after they had gone on their way that surely everybody uses Google maps nowadays and has no need to ask. I imagine they didn't have a smartphone between them, but then it turned out that my acquaintance didn't have one either! I'm also over 60 and wouldn't be without a smartphone - but I did skip several generations before upgrading to a Galaxy S21+.

That's a good value to possess actually, versus people who keep upgrading for the sake of.

Wow, I used to drive around the US on my rental using the Magellan Never Lost GPS device, and I was still often lost Can't imagine how people can navigate these days without Google maps.

 

[Steve Balcombe]

I won't deny that younger people learn faster, but older people are also more resistant to throwing out a perfectly good phone to replace it with the latest thing. I met someone a week or two ago who told me that *nine years* previously she had dropped her Nokia phone and the removable back (remember those?!) popped off and was lost. She then pulled it out of her pocket to show me that she was still using it with no back!

BTW the conversation had started with a discussion about an older couple who had asked for directions, and I commented after they had gone on their way that surely everybody uses Google maps nowadays and has no need to ask. I imagine they didn't have a smartphone between them, but then it turned out that my acquaintance didn't have one either! I'm also over 60 and wouldn't be without a smartphone - but I did skip several generations before upgrading to a Galaxy S21+.

That's a good value to possess actually, versus people who keep upgrading for the sake of.

I guess we should be grateful to Canon for this upgrade path:

7D - 2009 Q4

7D2 - 2014 Q4

R7 - 2022? Maybe?

No danger there of upgrading for the sake of!

Wow, I used to drive around the US on my rental using the Magellan Never Lost GPS device, and I was still often lost Can't imagine how people can navigate these days without Google maps.

 

[Larawanista]

I won't deny that younger people learn faster, but older people are also more resistant to throwing out a perfectly good phone to replace it with the latest thing. I met someone a week or two ago who told me that *nine years* previously she had dropped her Nokia phone and the removable back (remember those?!) popped off and was lost. She then pulled it out of her pocket to show me that she was still using it with no back!

BTW the conversation had started with a discussion about an older couple who had asked for directions, and I commented after they had gone on their way that surely everybody uses Google maps nowadays and has no need to ask. I imagine they didn't have a smartphone between them, but then it turned out that my acquaintance didn't have one either! I'm also over 60 and wouldn't be without a smartphone - but I did skip several generations before upgrading to a Galaxy S21+.

That's a good value to possess actually, versus people who keep upgrading for the sake of.

I guess we should be grateful to Canon for this upgrade path:

7D - 2009 Q4

7D2 - 2014 Q4

R7 - 2022? Maybe?

No danger there of upgrading for the sake of!

Wow, I used to drive around the US on my rental using the Magellan Never Lost GPS device, and I was still often lost Can't imagine how people can navigate these days without Google maps.