Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

[Dan Monroe]

Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown

DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

Just wondering....

 

[Digitalis32]

Why should they?

I 'm sure there are a number of people that would be better off if these forums closed down.

 

[Bobthearch]

Of course not. Amazon has no legal, contractual, ethical, or moral reason to continue hosting these forums.

But they know that, unlike IMDB, it's the forums that bring people to this website. You can't get decent money for ads without an audience.

 

[Digitalis32]

Of course not. Amazon has no legal, contractual, ethical, or moral reason to continue hosting these forums.

As things stand with all fee mass media, radio, television, internet fora: When something online is free, you’re not the customer, you’re the product. The advertisers are the clients, audiences are a commodity: and are likely to be jettisoned as soon as their usefulness turns into a liability.

Sometimes online communities break down on their own, due to external or more often internal pressures. Sometimes they are shuffled off to another, more expendable platform. The chances of an online community breaking down rises exponentially with the age of the platform and user base numbers. The causes are many but mostly it all boils down to the disposable and impersonal nature of online communications.

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A camera is just a camera. Who is behind, it matters far more.

 

[John Koch]

The LX100 (recurring topic of your postings) is a 2014 camera whose price is destined to decline. You can find used units in good condition for under $500, if you shop and bid skillfully. If Amazon offers are too expensive, try eBay.

Meanwhile, the DPR forums create an illusion of buyer interest or activity. Few forum postings actually correlate to sales. However, the same is true of most other sites that sponsor forums.

No site has any commercial, moral, legal, aesthetic, or self-punishing obligation to host or continue a site or any forums. After all, individual people also get tired, quit, succumb to pain, or die.

 

[Janoch]

Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

Ha! They don't have the nerves, as they know we'll sue the pants of them!

Just wondering....

Why?

And if they did pull the plug, would it really make that much difference or matter much?

 

[Brad Bohland]

Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown

DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

Just wondering....

More specifically, the company [IMDb] – which was set up in 1990 by Bristol-based IT worker Col Needham and later sold to Amazon – said that a shift to social media had made the message boards less vital; users, they said, had “migrated to IMDb’s social media accounts as the primary place they choose to post comments and communicate with IMDb’s editors and one another”.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/feb/06/imdb-shuts-down-message-boards

When people like you go to Facebook, instead of coming here, to discuss photography, then there will be no reason to continue using this website as a platform for such conversations because they will be happening elsewhere.

You are the answer to your own question, to wit, when you stop coming here, here will cease to exist.

 

[Mark B.]

Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown

DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

Just wondering....

I don't see how they can guarantee anything of the sort. Why would they anyway? It's a free service, so to be frank Amazon doesn't owe us any such promise. If it was a paid service it wouldn't be guaranteed either; the most we might get is a notice before it was shuttered.

 

[Mark B.]

Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

Ha! They don't have the nerves, as they know we'll sue the pants of them!

Sue them for what?

 

[Doug Haag]

Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

Ha! They don't have the nerves, as they know we'll sue the pants of them!

Sue them for what?

Mark, you need to call the repair man immediately. It is obvious that your sarcasm detector has ceased to function.

 

[Sa7724473]

Of course not. Amazon has no legal, contractual, ethical, or moral reason to continue hosting these forums.

But they know that, unlike IMDB, it's the forums that bring people to this website. You can't get decent money for ads without an audience.

 

[robert1955]

Of course not. Amazon has no legal, contractual, ethical, or moral reason to continue hosting these forums.

But they know that, unlike IMDB, it's the forums that bring people to this website. You can't get decent money for ads without an audience.

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Whoa. Hold up. What is the basis for concluding that a leading seller of camera equipment has zero civic responsibility to its customer community?

Amazon.com inc does not even have any responsibility to either keep up dpreview.com at all. Whether as owners of IMDB they decided that IMDB management should stop their forums is an unknown . Or even to keep selling cameras at all for that matter

It's fine to talk about finance or legality. But to then jump to that equating to having zero civic responsibilities is a whole other ball game. You made a leap too far there.

In the case of IMDB part of the reason seem to be that the trolling by part of the so-called community started running against the ethics and the morals the company would consider theirs.

 

[Bobthearch]

Of course not. Amazon has no legal, contractual, ethical, or moral reason to continue hosting these forums.

But they know that, unlike IMDB, it's the forums that bring people to this website. You can't get decent money for ads without an audience.

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Whoa. Hold up. What is the basis for concluding that a leading seller of camera equipment has zero civic responsibility to its customer community?

It's fine to talk about finance or legality. But to then jump to that equating to having zero civic responsibilities is a whole other ball game. You made a leap too far there.

Is that more sarcasm? I can't tell.

 

[Mark B.]

Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

Ha! They don't have the nerves, as they know we'll sue the pants of them!

Sue them for what?

Mark, you need to call the repair man immediately. It is obvious that your sarcasm detector has ceased to function.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was serious. I work very closely with the Call Center Manager of my company, people make all sorts of bizarre claims.

 

[Dan Monroe]

It wouldn't surprise me if he was serious. I work very closely with the Call Center Manager of my company, people make all sorts of bizarre claims.

The zebra ate my iPhone...

Sounds far-fetched enough? 100% true. I was visiting a zoo a couple of years ago. They have this area where visitors can pet and feed the zebras. I held my iPhone up against the railing to keep the picture steady. Before I knew it, a zebra yanked it off my hands and closed its mouth with the phone inside. I freaked out, not because of the phone, but because I was afraid that the zebra would swallow it!!! Fortunately, the zebra took a couple of steps back and spit the phone out... I went and told a zoo employee. She asked me to wait while they go retrieve the phone..

The screen had a crack on the lower half and it was covered in mud/dirt and zebra saliva. I tossed it in a plastic bag and brought it home as-is.

When I got home two days later, I called Verizon/Asurion and filed a claim. I think the agent didn't really believe my story, but accepted the claim anyway. A replacement iPhone was shipped to me via overnight and I put the iPhone with cracked screen in the return envelope they provided. (yes, I did clean off the dirt and the zebra saliva)

I was only out $99 for the Verizon/Asurion deductible... but I considered that to be nothing.. if the zebra had swallowed the phone, I might have been held responsible for vet bill by the zoo...

 

[Janoch]

Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

Ha! They don't have the nerves, as they know we'll sue the pants of them!

Sue them for what?

Mark, you need to call the repair man immediately. It is obvious that your sarcasm detector has ceased to function.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was serious. I work very closely with the Call Center Manager of my company, people make all sorts of bizarre claims.

Well, I got a lesson...

When I later back from work clicked on my dpReview forum link, there was no dpReview forum! "This service is unavailable"!

For a wild moment I had the insane thought, that Amazon had read my above post and decided "Right! That's it! Enough is enough!" and pulled the plug! :-D

So... of course I'll sue them! They clearly have made me an addict and they can't take away my daily drug dosis!

 

[OlyPent]

Here's why IMDB forums died. Just a snippet from one of their comments sections, this one "moderated" by facebook. The story was on a new movie. But look at the comment:

Sameer Khan · Jabalpur, Madhya PradeshI just started a month ago and I've gotten 4 check for a total of $4,400...this is the best decision I put aside a couple of minutes! "Thankful to you for giving me this wonderful opportunity to benefit from home.Everybody can do this job and earn more dollars online by follow this link........★

 

[Mark B.]

Here's why IMDB forums died. Just a snippet from one of their comments sections, this one "moderated" by facebook. The story was on a new movie. But look at the comment:

Sameer Khan · Jabalpur, Madhya PradeshI just started a month ago and I've gotten 4 check for a total of $4,400...this is the best decision I put aside a couple of minutes! "Thankful to you for giving me this wonderful opportunity to benefit from home.Everybody can do this job and earn more dollars online by follow this link........★

 

[Brad Bohland]

Here's why IMDB forums died.

They didn't really die, though, they simply relocated to Facebook.

Personally, I'll add that such a relocation of DPReview would all but destroy it for me, since I view Facebook as a chaotic mess compared to the beautifully organized machine the DPReview website is.

But the popular vote will, as always, win the day.

 

[Simon Joinson]

Does Amazon guarantee 100% that they won't shutdown

DPReview forum like they did with IMDB forums?

Just wondering....

That was an IMDb decision, not an 'Amazon' decision. If these forums get closed it'll be our decision. And we have no intention of closing them

SJ