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About them ties though. I understand if two tie for silver there is no bronze. But for the fun of it, since we're a friendly group, even if there was a tie we'd still increment the count by one and include an extra shot or two in the top10. Keeping track of top10 is fairly new, I've tried keeping it top10 where it originally only started out to be top5. Though only the top 5 eligible shots are still being archived in the "Best Of" gallery. And only one shot per gallery for exhibition .
 
My day was just fine, thank you. I took my mother out to brunch with whomever of the family would comply and it was enjoyable - especially because the weather was so bea-uuu-ti-ful. Again, I printed her up a pretty photo to hang on her wall (she says she likes them) but it's actually a good thing that I don't celebrate every day with her because she's running out of wall space.
Penny Street
 
It's nice your Mum hangs your picys up, she must really like em a.
Do you have many hanging in your own house?
Regards Rod
 
well seems to be because I can't log on to do my duties.

Apoloigies to everyone although I cannot speak for Pbase.. the bums.
 
So no, they're not hanging at my house because I can look at them on my PC anytime I want.
Penny Stret
 
You remember Jano's excellent cloud picy that the BBC in England wanted to use on their TV program, well it went to air & Jano's picy was seen all over the UK. They will be sending her a DVD of the program, how exciting is that!!!

There's a bloke writing a book on clouds that is going to use her picy as well AND she will get a big fat cheque in the mail for the letting them publish her picy.

I know, I know, she probably won't want to talk wiv us mere mortals anymore being a published photographer a. I'm amazed this sort of thing could happen to just a girl.
Now if you all think the above is great news..........There's more....

The silly ole clouds Jano photographed apparently is a newish type of cloud that hasn't bin named yet so the Cloud Society in the UK are going to name it...
.......The Jano Asperatus Americanus Cloud......

Bleeding L Jano will now be remembered throughout time, or even longer a.

Well done Jano & from now on you can't have any BHs in your clouds as you now have a big reputation to keep up.............Wot a woman.



Regards Rod
 
As I have always suspected and now has been proven to be true, there are professionals amongst us amateurs.

Spectacular image Jano!
-Doug
 
There wasn't any name for that cloud formation so they named it "Asperatus"
I just added on the rest..............as I tend to do:-)
Regards Rod
 
Yes, I received an e-mail from Gavin Pretor-Pinney who indicated that he was going to propose a new type of cloud formation and that he proposed the name Asperatus meaning after the Latin word for 'roughened or churned up'. I prefer Rod's naming preference :) but ... Of course this is a proposal I guess and beyond that I do not know much. The UK paper "may" run it but again who knows. If and when my photo shows up in a book that was proposed to me by another entity, I'll let you know!! But I do know that I will be getting a copy of the dvd of the BBC4 show that was shown in the UK so that is exciting since I was not able to watch it here in the US.

You know, I've never had that photo printed, but it is ready now for printing and I'm going to get to that within the week.

I think the moral behind the story is have your camera ready, cause without it, I would have never captured the image. Of course I'll give much credit to the wonderful Pro1 :)

jano
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Some taken early at photography and some recent. Please comment on what you like and what you do not. Jano

 
and we are (of course) hoping for the best outcome for you with the book and all... but whatever, it's so exciting!! Congratulations!
Penny Street
 
I just got approached about shooting an event for the Seattle Art Museum. All I know so far is that it will be to show a combination of 200 people schmoozing (most likely drunk) and some exhibits. I am waiting for more details on how many hours I would need to be on site shooting, etc., but when I speak directly with the person who pays the check I better have a figure in mind before I start BSing my way to a price.

With what little I know about it this event sounds like the involvement of a wedding shoot without the pressure of being sure not to screw up someones (hopefully) once in a lifetime event. I don't need to score huge if I land this as I am looking at it more as something to put on my resume and make future business contacts. Still, I don't want to sell myself short and come across as the amateur I am. If it turns out to be an evening of shooting I'm thinking $500 for the cleaned up digital files as a possible starting point ($400 if there are lots of available women there). Anyone else have thoughts on where I should start negotiating?
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On first impulse, what are the times you will be shooting? Obviously evening or daylight will have a lot to do with the quality and lighting requirements.

My sister who works for a construction company recently hired a photographer to shoot inside a building they just completed. The guy charged, after a 20% discount, just under $500, and this was for his time only and a dvd. They received a dvd with only two images. No printed images.

Now I listed to a podcast recently, where an architect photographer would take 3 days to do a shoot, learning the lighting, times of day, etc., and then plan his shoot accordingly to obtain the best images with the best natural light. Obviously he is known for his work, and I'm sure was paid well beyond $500.

I guess if me, I would choose a price per hour. I would request a day in advance to scope it out at a certain price... and then work your photography day at $ hr. Then offer them a dvd (or proof book) of no less than prints to them. Any prints they want after that can be negotiated at that point. Or perhaps you can have this under your belt also if asked.

I think going in there blind w/o knowing the lighting conditions is your worst enemy. You will want to know what lens works best at different angles, distance, etc. Plus, what is their vision? What is it they want to show or achieve?

Anyway.. just food for thought, not sure I helped at all. I know I'm confused about the whole pricing thing myself. Obviously one needs to start out small but yet don't underestimate the worth.

jano
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Please visit my gallery at http://www.pbase.com/jstrong

Some taken early at photography and some recent. Please comment on what you like and what you do not. Jano

 
It's possibly easier to find out what the average wedding shooter gets & that's for say 8 hrs work. So if it looks like a 4hr shoot then your $500 sounds OK. It might depend on how many picys they want as PP takes a lot of time too.
Obviously supply & demand can determine prices & the reputation of the
photographer.

I think you have done some work before for the local government, did your name get passed on from your last job? If so did you do the last job cheap? What I'm thinking is that if the recommendation was that you're good & don't charge too much then you may be a little restricted on what you can charge.

It's all small steps & the experience is worth more than the money at the moment, so start off at $500 & if they look shocked make it $499:-)
Regards Rod
 

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