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Greets. Curious to know ... how any "pros" respond to anonymous posts ... like .. from "Pixelpuke" or "PhotoNuke" ... "Is the S40 better than the Nikon XXXXX" .... want to help neophyte photogs ... but feeling stepped on by folks who do not respect themselves enough to sign their names. Comments?
Regards
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
 
Don't mind too much regarding aliases, but answering depends a lot on the tone in which the question's asked, if it's not been answered, if I know the answer (or think I do), or if there's any details that need to be elaborated upon.

Or if I'm really really bored.... (grin)
 
What makes you believe that anonymous posts are made by those lacking self-respect? Perhaps it's a matter of simply being guarded in an open forum or valuing privacy. Regardless, are their questions any less valid? A question, naive or not, posted by anyone may result in information that may be of value to many; the source is immaterial. Further, I may be mistaken but implicit in your statements is that these folks do not contribute. Is that true?

Anyway, I suspect that the option of having various levels of anonymity contributes to the popularity - bottom line - of sites like these; it caters to the aforementioned population. Most important I don't believe that individuals are using their anonymity to sabotage these forums. If the questions AND answers contributed are sincere, I see no harm?

Ken
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.J.D. said:
Greets. Curious to know ... how any "pros" respond to anonymous
posts ... like .. from "Pixelpuke" or "PhotoNuke" ... "Is the S40
better than the Nikon XXXXX" .... want to help neophyte photogs
... but feeling stepped on by folks who do not respect themselves
enough to sign their names. Comments?
Regards
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
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Sos - what a question. I know of LOTS of people who have a policy of NEVER using their real name for public forums like this for security reasons. In fact, on one board I frequent, people have tried to convince me to change mine from my real name to an alias. It's a pretty normal practice, and I would never think of it as a form of deception, unless the person was trolling.
David G said:
David G said:
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
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Or are you really that full of yourself?

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David
Washington, DC
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David G said:
David G said:
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
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Or are you really that full of yourself?

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David
Washington, DC
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No David, I'm not .... just curious. Thank you for signing your name ... and you have a nice site, (assuming it's yours). Been here a few years and really enjoyed looking at other pro's webpages and marveling at their genius. Seems not too many folks do that anymore. I miss that.

Regards
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
 
Hello Karl Still At It ?

I usually but not always dismiss the post with out proper names. Personally speaking I don't like the practice it's what lowers the forum's crediability in my mind.

After all here we are in a susposed professional's forum dealing with anonymous posters who are hiding behind phony made up names.

Seems to me there is nothing professional about that practice.

Stephen

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On A Quest Seeking Vision!

http://www.livick.com
 
These forums are not exclusive & many people read them. It is for professional reasons that I use an alias. There are a few forum members that I have contacted by email who now know who I am.

I am not comparing my writing to his/hers, but Shakespeare was an alias for a writer of a different name.

The one thing about the Pro Forum that I particularly like, is that it doesn't usually have useless threads that don't involve photography.

Regards,
CLTHRS
 
Once again, where is your data to support the psychological labelling? How do you know these people don't have self-respect? If the content of their questions and contributed answers are indistinguishable from named users, what is the problem? If you believe that their is a meaningful difference please offer evidence (to the site owner). [BTW, this thread is of no value to "Pro Digital Talk", however you've chosen to negatively label a large integrated group without data.]

Ken
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.J.D. said:
Stephen Livick said:
Hello Karl Still At It ?
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hehehe ... yup. My creditors keep me scrambling. I trust you are
doing well, (your website remains a joy to walk through). Got "Best
of Show"
at the annual Missouri Bar Association Art Exhibit:
http://www.karltimmerman.com/cat.html
Best Regards
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
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CLTHRS, keep up the good work!
CLTHRS said:
These forums are not exclusive & many people read them. It is for
professional reasons that I use an alias. There are a few forum
members that I have contacted by email who now know who I am.

I am not comparing my writing to his/hers, but Shakespeare was an
alias for a writer of a different name.

The one thing about the Pro Forum that I particularly like, is that
it doesn't usually have useless threads that don't involve
photography.

Regards,
CLTHRS
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KNS wrote:
[BTW, this thread is of no value to "Pro
kns said:
Digital Talk",
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I disagree. It may not be directly related, but I can see the value in such a topic on this specific forum. Everything doesn't have to be about DOF, workflow, etc.

I can understand why a pro would want/need to stay in the dark. However, I myself, have nothing to lose. So I even have my portrait in my signature, in hopes that someday one of these pros might recognise me on the street! ;-)
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Cheers,
markE
  • Oly E-20, FL-40, WCON
-Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/marke

 
I was attempting to highlight the irony of making an arguably OT post to slam a subset of the users who may ask novice questions. So, consider the comment irrelevant to the point at hand - my mistake.

Now, I'm still hoping that some support for the conclusions drawn in the original post will be presented. Otherwise what's the purpose of blindly insulting such a large number of users?

Ken
markE said:
markE59102 said:
Digital Talk",
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I disagree. It may not be directly related, but I can see the value
in such a topic on this specific forum. Everything doesn't have to
be about DOF, workflow, etc.

I can understand why a pro would want/need to stay in the dark.
However, I myself, have nothing to lose. So I even have my portrait
in my signature, in hopes that someday one of these pros might
recognise me on the street! ;-)
--
Cheers,
markE
  • Oly E-20, FL-40, WCON
-Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/marke

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KNS wrote:

" Otherwise what's the purpose of blindly insulting such a large number of users?"

Saddens me that you feel "blindly insulted" ... certainly was not my intent. As an attorney, I make a very good living insulting folks to their face, (hate doing it for free). Having said that .... where would I go to appreciate some of your work?
Regards
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
 
Though I have one photo at photosig.com I will not post the link. It's irrelevant. I read these forums to learn and keep apprised of new developments. In fact, I learn the most from this and the Lighting forum (as a novice). That endeavour is not compromised by my semi-anonymous status, nor is it associated with having photos on display. [BTW, I've been posting with my full name on Usenet since at least 1990-1 . The choice to be anonymous here and at other similar sites is simply that - a choice.]

The above - my "work" - is tangential and of no relevance. What leads you to believe that those who post without providing a full bio are lacking in self respect (see original post)? I'm not looking for your opinion but data driven support for the conclusion. Further why would you imply that such individuals only ask not contribute?

Ken
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.J.D. said:
KNS wrote:

" Otherwise what's the purpose of blindly insulting such a large
number of users?"

Saddens me that you feel "blindly insulted" ... certainly was not
my intent. As an attorney, I make a very good living insulting
folks to their face, (hate doing it for free). Having said that
.... where would I go to appreciate some of your work?
Regards
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
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I find it difficult to take seriously a question posted by an alias. Aliases provide the anonymity that allows provocative or inappropriate posts that wouldn't be made under a "real" name. The security thing is a sham, (or wishful thinking). Anyone who doubts that can so a search on the web for their own name and be amazed (or appalled) at what shows up.
2 cents added.

kunza
Stephen Livick said:
Hello Karl Still At It ?

I usually but not always dismiss the post with out proper names.
Personally speaking I don't like the practice it's what lowers the
forum's crediability in my mind.

After all here we are in a susposed professional's forum dealing
with anonymous posters who are hiding behind phony made up names.

Seems to me there is nothing professional about that practice.

Stephen

--
On A Quest Seeking Vision!

http://www.livick.com
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KNS said:
The above - my "work" - is tangential and of no relevance. What
leads you to believe that those who post without providing a full
bio are lacking in self respect (see original post)? I'm not
looking for your opinion but data driven support for the
conclusion. Further why would you imply that such individuals only
ask not contribute?
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... well Ken ... I would continue this discussion by e-mail ... but you have elected not to disclose yours. You aren't "semi-anonymous" .... you are just plain old "anonymous". One pic ... on a link you will not disclose? ... after posting for years on "usenet"? ... a pic which is "tangential and of no relevance". Interesting. As for the "data" you request supporting my original post ... "such individuals only ask not contribute" .... .... read your posts to this and the other forums. I mean you no ill will nor disrespect. "Nuff said.
Regards
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
 
I can honestly say I do not pay attention to the name of the poster, who cares who is asking or if they are using there real name or not, if the question is a valid one and I have the time or inclination to type out an answer I hope that they or someone else reading the post and response can somehow benifit from it. Most all the viruses I get are from posting on forums, so I should not be using my real email address, but I do and weed through at least 20 viruses a day, (OK I don't I have 2 assistants that answer my emails but thats only because I recieve over 1500 on any given day, so sorry if a response is a little slower then I would like) Still I post and I try to answer most emails addressed to me or asking for help if I can. I only hope that someone is gaining from the time it takes to post the response, I assume they are judging from the number of people that are directly emailing me asking about interpolations, curves, fashion, or many of the other subjects that I have posted on, someone is reading them and taking the time to type out a question and email me so they are somehow learning and that keeps me motivated to respond to some of the questions posted.

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Stephen
http://www.nyphotographics.com
 
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