A brief initial review of the GX9 vs GX8

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I've been trying to figure out what I can get to replace my aging GM5, so I tried a couple of newer Panasonic models over the past couple of months.

I had great hopes for the G100, as it was a small body and yet had the 20MP sensor. . Oddly enough, I found it too big to really fill the direct niche of the GM5, yet too small to handle easily (which is odd because the GM5 is just fine in hand, even though it's really tiny), and I also didn't care for whatever tweaks Panasonic did to the color rendition on it. The one I had also had a hinky battery door, so that was the nail in the coffin, so to speak, and back it went.

I did, just for the heck of it, borrow a G9 from a friend for a couple of days, since the sale they had on them was very tempting, just to see how its output compared to my GX8, and I found it way out of my comfort range in terms of size and grip depth. Nothing like big time discomfort when you try something out, to cure G.A.S. ... ;)

So, I took a chance, and decided to order a GX9. It's a bit bigger than I would like, but still smaller than the GX8, and it has no AA filter; the better IBIS and the better color algorithms; and lower noise at slightly higher ISOs than the first gen iteration of their 20MP sensors. What I didn't know is whether I could deal with the EVF, since the one in the GX85 was so dreadful, with its coke-bottle lens effect, and all reports had the GX9's being exactly the same as that.

Well, the thing came a couple of weeks ago...and I couldn't get a single sharp shot with it! After working with it for two days, and becoming increasingly frustrated, i did some basic shooting tests, and oh, yeah, it was most assuredly defective :-D . So, I sent it back for exchange, and the second one works just fine. So, this review is based on my experiences so far with that one.

First, the good:

The best thing about this camera is that the color rendition is just excellent. Panasonic really stepped it up more than one notch here; They finally tweaked out the greenish cast to the yellows that they were prone to, yet didn't go over to the full Oly-type super lush color rendering, for which I am very grateful.

Next is overall functionality. Even though it does not have as many buttons as the GX8, it has enough for my purposes, and it does have the two dials plus the exposure dial, so it's plenty adjustable.

The flippy LCD is also something I prefer, and I find I am using that far more than I use the FAS on the GX8. I'm not a hard head about what kind of articulation a camera has; If a camera has everything I want in other features, the screen type is not a make-or-break issue for me. However, since I do prefer to use the flippy screen and the GX9 has a nice one, it gets points from me on that score.

This brings us to the EVF: I was expecting it to be, well, BAD. Fortunately, I was very pleasantly surprised to find that Panasonic had put a better lens in the front of the EVF this time, so no coke-bottle distortion! Hallelujah! Of course, it's not a BIG panel in there, and it is field sequential, but the FS rainbow effect is much, much, reduced over earlier generation versions. A GX8 it's not, but it is absolutely eminently usable, and noticeably better than its GX7, and GX85 predecessors.

Lower light AF is very good, I think it locks on to things just a little better than the GX8 does in very low light.

Overall sensor noise control is improved over the GX8. This is especially obvious as you start bumping up the ISO a bit. I still wouldn't want to use M43 much over ISO 3200, but my overall impression is that I can shoot acceptably detailed and clean shots in lower light up to ISO 1600 easily with the GX9, and I even have pet shots with very good fur detail at ISO 3200 with it. On the GX8 there is much more detail loss at low light ISO 1600. Now, this is subjective as I have not sat down and shot identical images to compare, but judging from what I have to do in PP to clean up the shots, I think there is a decided advantage to the GX9 in this area.

Now the downsides:

The IBIS is OK, when used on non-stabilized lenses, but it's definitely not as good as the Oly version. It's a little better than the version on the GX8, but not, surprisingly, as much better as I thought it would be. On the other hand, when used with a Panasonic lens with stabilization, the Dual IS is VERY effective. It does makes kind of a clunk when it engages (the version on my GX8 does also, but I was surprised that this one does too).

Panasonic did some tweaks to their touch screen options after the GX8, so the ability to shut off the touch screen while still allowing access to the virtual function buttons on it is no longer an option (I think the GX8 might have been the only camera that let you do that, though, as all of the other current ones don't either).

If you are left eyed, the distance the eyepiece protrudes out behind the screen is too shallow, so your nose tends to move the focus point around....I have the larger eye cup on order, which should take care of that, but, since you can't turn off the touchscreen only partially, it's something left-eyed shooters should be aware of if they want to leave the touch screen functions on.

I have had a couple of instances with the GX9 ( the one I have now, not the defective one I had exchanged) where it simply refuses to focus and yet still takes the shot. It's not common, and it's usually after it has racked the lens back and forth to capture focus on something without success, but instead of continuing to try to focus, at that point it just stops and lets you actually shoot, with the result of just a big blur. Not sure what that's about, and it might be a lens/body issue (it seemed to do it more on the plastic fantastic Oly 40-150mm f 4-5.6). I have to explore that a bit more to see if I can narrow down when it's actually occurring.

The grip is...meh. :) I'll probably try and dig up a half case for it at some point, which will solve that nicely.

And, last, but not least, it feels and works like a decent, middle of the line camera, which is what it is. It does not have the build quality or feel of a higher end mechanical device, which the GX8 does. I'm not faulting it for this; it was not nearly as expensive as the GX8, so I did not expect all the little niceties that that body has to have made their way to this one. The good thing is that the GX9's output is really excellent, which compensates for losing some of the GX8's elan :-D .

Conclusion:

Excellent middle-end M43 camera in a decently small form factor with great looking output. The EVF isn't world class, but it's very usable, with the updates it has from the previous models with it. I'm keeping this one!

Some photos below with examples of the really quite nice color rendition of this body:




Freshly molted Mallard in his lustrous new plumage :)






My favorite marsh






Pokeweed berries! No, not edible...






Very slow moving bees in the chill out there today. (It's a Carpenter Bee). And yes, they do bore holes in wood to nest, ergo their name.

-J
 

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dreading the day to which you refer. Your review of the GX9 is appreciated, given your frame of reference.

Might have to take a closer look...
 
Yeah, as a left-eyed shooter I just turn touch screens off. The tilting EVF helps keep my snout off the screen too.

There's a JJC grip for the GX9 that adds Arca/Swiss compatibility and, unlike Panasonic's effort, has access for the battery compartment door. Probably the best accessory I've bought for the GX9.
 
I've been trying to figure out what I can get to replace my aging GM5, so I tried a couple of newer Panasonic models over the past couple of months.

I had great hopes for the G100, as it was a small body and yet had the 20MP sensor. . Oddly enough, I found it too big to really fill the direct niche of the GM5, yet too small to handle easily (which is odd because the GM5 is just fine in hand, even though it's really tiny), and I also didn't care for whatever tweaks Panasonic did to the color rendition on it. The one I had also had a hinky battery door, so that was the nail in the coffin, so to speak, and back it went.

I did, just for the heck of it, borrow a G9 from a friend for a couple of days, since the sale they had on them was very tempting, just to see how its output compared to my GX8, and I found it way out of my comfort range in terms of size and grip depth. Nothing like big time discomfort when you try something out, to cure G.A.S. ... ;)

So, I took a chance, and decided to order a GX9. It's a bit bigger than I would like, but still smaller than the GX8, and it has no AA filter; the better IBIS and the better color algorithms; and lower noise at slightly higher ISOs than the first gen iteration of their 20MP sensors. What I didn't know is whether I could deal with the EVF, since the one in the GX85 was so dreadful, with its coke-bottle lens effect, and all reports had the GX9's being exactly the same as that.

Well, the thing came a couple of weeks ago...and I couldn't get a single sharp shot with it! After working with it for two days, and becoming increasingly frustrated, i did some basic shooting tests, and oh, yeah, it was most assuredly defective :-D . So, I sent it back for exchange, and the second one works just fine. So, this review is based on my experiences so far with that one.

First, the good:

The best thing about this camera is that the color rendition is just excellent. Panasonic really stepped it up more than one notch here; They finally tweaked out the greenish cast to the yellows that they were prone to, yet didn't go over to the full Oly-type super lush color rendering, for which I am very grateful.

Next is overall functionality. Even though it does not have as many buttons as the GX8, it has enough for my purposes, and it does have the two dials plus the exposure dial, so it's plenty adjustable.

The flippy LCD is also something I prefer, and I find I am using that far more than I use the FAS on the GX8. I'm not a hard head about what kind of articulation a camera has; If a camera has everything I want in other features, the screen type is not a make-or-break issue for me. However, since I do prefer to use the flippy screen and the GX9 has a nice one, it gets points from me on that score.

This brings us to the EVF: I was expecting it to be, well, BAD. Fortunately, I was very pleasantly surprised to find that Panasonic had put a better lens in the front of the EVF this time, so no coke-bottle distortion! Hallelujah! Of course, it's not a BIG panel in there, and it is field sequential, but the FS rainbow effect is much, much, reduced over earlier generation versions. A GX8 it's not, but it is absolutely eminently usable, and noticeably better than its GX7, and GX85 predecessors.
AFAIK GX7, GX85 and GX9 should use the same evf... :-)
Lower light AF is very good, I think it locks on to things just a little better than the GX8 does in very low light.

Overall sensor noise control is improved over the GX8. This is especially obvious as you start bumping up the ISO a bit. I still wouldn't want to use M43 much over ISO 3200, but my overall impression is that I can shoot acceptably detailed and clean shots in lower light up to ISO 1600 easily with the GX9, and I even have pet shots with very good fur detail at ISO 3200 with it. On the GX8 there is much more detail loss at low light ISO 1600. Now, this is subjective as I have not sat down and shot identical images to compare, but judging from what I have to do in PP to clean up the shots, I think there is a decided advantage to the GX9 in this area.

Now the downsides:

The IBIS is OK, when used on non-stabilized lenses, but it's definitely not as good as the Oly version. It's a little better than the version on the GX8, but not, surprisingly, as much better as I thought it would be. On the other hand, when used with a Panasonic lens with stabilization, the Dual IS is VERY effective. It does makes kind of a clunk when it engages (the version on my GX8 does also, but I was surprised that this one does too).
GX9 should use the similar stabilization system of its predecessor GX85.

As per my home testing on GX85, effectiveness of the IBIS is around 2+ stops max, not really very powerful (vs that of EM10 class) but is much improved than GX7. Comparing to the lens OIS of around 3~3.5 stops (14-45, 14-42PZ etc), IBIS is not outstanding. I suppose that could be the reason that when an OIS lens (not DUAL IS compatible) would be mounted, Panny uses lens OIS (IBIS will be disabled).

On G85, as per my home testing it is also just around 3 stops mostly, likely because of the bigger hand grip, heavier and larger size body... The best IBIS of Panny could only be found on G9 APM.

However, DUAL IS of Panny is quite powerful, around 4 stops (12-32 on GX85) or 5 stops (12-35 on GX85).
Panasonic did some tweaks to their touch screen options after the GX8, so the ability to shut off the touch screen while still allowing access to the virtual function buttons on it is no longer an option (I think the GX8 might have been the only camera that let you do that, though, as all of the other current ones don't either).

If you are left eyed, the distance the eyepiece protrudes out behind the screen is too shallow, so your nose tends to move the focus point around....I have the larger eye cup on order, which should take care of that, but, since you can't turn off the touchscreen only partially, it's something left-eyed shooters should be aware of if they want to leave the touch screen functions on.
Not sure how GX8 does it.

On GX7, GX85 and G85, Touch Pad AF, Touch AF and Touch LCD can be switched on/off independently.

If you are an evf shoot, Touch Pad AF should be the usual culprit on the running away focus point easily move the focus point (RAFP) syndrome. We can disable it and keep Touch AF and Touch LCD (for the Tab Menu, Q.Menu etc operation) alive.

One step further, the Touch AF (when we shoot with LCD) can be switched off to make sure no more RAFP syndrome. The Touch LCD can still keep alive...
I have had a couple of instances with the GX9 ( the one I have now, not the defective one I had exchanged) where it simply refuses to focus and yet still takes the shot. It's not common, and it's usually after it has racked the lens back and forth to capture focus on something without success, but instead of continuing to try to focus, at that point it just stops and lets you actually shoot, with the result of just a big blur.
I found similar performance on GX85 (never happened to GX7). As per a discussion here a few years ago, we guessed that Panny had scarified the focusing accuracy for faster speed...

Fortunately, as you have pointed out, when the camera failed to lock on a focus the Live View image would be blur. If the shooter would have pay attention to it, usually we have a chance to realise the failed AF and can try another AF.
Not sure what that's about, and it might be a lens/body issue (it seemed to do it more on the plastic fantastic Oly 40-150mm f 4-5.6). I have to explore that a bit more to see if I can narrow down when it's actually occurring.

The grip is...meh. :) I'll probably try and dig up a half case for it at some point, which will solve that nicely.

And, last, but not least, it feels and works like a decent, middle of the line camera, which is what it is. It does not have the build quality or feel of a higher end mechanical device, which the GX8 does. I'm not faulting it for this; it was not nearly as expensive as the GX8, so I did not expect all the little niceties that that body has to have made their way to this one. The good thing is that the GX9's output is really excellent, which compensates for losing some of the GX8's elan :-D .

Conclusion:
Excellent middle-end M43 camera in a decently small form factor with great looking output. The EVF isn't world class, but it's very usable, with the updates it has from the previous models with it. I'm keeping this one!

Some photos below with examples of the really quite nice color rendition of this body:


Freshly molted Mallard in his lustrous new plumage :)


My favorite marsh


Pokeweed berries! No, not edible...


Very slow moving bees in the chill out there today. (It's a Carpenter Bee). And yes, they do bore holes in wood to nest, ergo their name.

-J
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Albert
** Please feel free to download the original image I posted here and edit it as you like :-) **
 
another weirdy is that where on the GX8 if you engaged the D-Pad lock, that was all it did - for some stupid and annoying reason, on the GX9 it also disables the Touchpad feature for moving the AF point !! . the GX9 is less "Button pressy" than the GX80 thankfully but its annoying to have to disable D-Pad lock to be able to use the screen for Touchpad when shooting through the EVF. of course D-Pad lock takes up the only real function button on the back . Ho Hum .

I find the placing of the Expoure comp dial , although not ideal better on the GX9 than the GX8 which was pretty useless ..

I

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This brings us to the EVF: I was expecting it to be, well, BAD. Fortunately, I was very pleasantly surprised to find that Panasonic had put a better lens in the front of the EVF this time, so no coke-bottle distortion! Hallelujah! Of course, it's not a BIG panel in there, and it is field sequential, but the FS rainbow effect is much, much, reduced over earlier generation versions. A GX8 it's not, but it is absolutely eminently usable, and noticeably better than its GX7, and GX85 predecessors.
AFAIK GX7, GX85 and GX9 should use the same evf... :-)
They should, but the optics in front of the panel are better on my copy of the GX9 than on either of the previous versions. Also, they seem to have tweaked the refresh rate somehow to reduce the color tearing (it was there but never bothered me on the other ones, but I have to really work to see it on this one, so something in the implementation has changed)
Now the downsides:

The IBIS is OK, when used on non-stabilized lenses, but it's definitely not as good as the Oly version. It's a little better than the version on the GX8, but not, surprisingly, as much better as I thought it would be. On the other hand, when used with a Panasonic lens with stabilization, the Dual IS is VERY effective. It does makes kind of a clunk when it engages (the version on my GX8 does also, but I was surprised that this one does too).
GX9 should use the similar stabilization system of its predecessor GX85.

As per my home testing on GX85, effectiveness of the IBIS is around 2+ stops max, not really very powerful (vs that of EM10 class) but is much improved than GX7.
Oh, the GX7 had very minimal IBIS. The GX8 had better IBIS than that, by a fair bit, but a long way from Oly's version. The GX85 and GX9 have a version that's much more similar in operation to Oly's, but it's clearly not as effective, unfortunately (but a little better than the GX8's)
Comparing to the lens OIS of around 3~3.5 stops (14-45, 14-42PZ etc), IBIS is not outstanding. I suppose that could be the reason that when an OIS lens (not DUAL IS compatible) would be mounted, Panny uses lens OIS (IBIS will be disabled).

On G85, as per my home testing it is also just around 3 stops mostly, likely because of the bigger hand grip, heavier and larger size body... The best IBIS of Panny could only be found on G9 APM.
Yes, for sure. But, that's a larger, newer, and more expensive body.
However, DUAL IS of Panny is quite powerful, around 4 stops (12-32 on GX85) or 5 stops (12-35 on GX85).
Yes, I found the Dual IS to be quite good, even version I, which is what's on all of the GX bodies that have it.
Panasonic did some tweaks to their touch screen options after the GX8, so the ability to shut off the touch screen while still allowing access to the virtual function buttons on it is no longer an option (I think the GX8 might have been the only camera that let you do that, though, as all of the other current ones don't either).

If you are left eyed, the distance the eyepiece protrudes out behind the screen is too shallow, so your nose tends to move the focus point around....I have the larger eye cup on order, which should take care of that, but, since you can't turn off the touchscreen only partially, it's something left-eyed shooters should be aware of if they want to leave the touch screen functions on.
Not sure how GX8 does it.

On GX7, GX85 and G85, Touch Pad AF, Touch AF and Touch LCD can be switched on/off independently.
On all of the newest bodies, you can no longer independently shut off Touch AF unless you turn off the Touch settings completely.
If you are an evf shoot, Touch Pad AF should be the usual culprit on the running away focus point easily move the focus point (RAFP) syndrome. We can disable it and keep Touch AF and Touch LCD (for the Tab Menu, Q.Menu etc operation) alive.
I have the Touch Pad AF disabled, but I think my nose hits it before the EVF switches on sometimes :) .
One step further, the Touch AF (when we shoot with LCD) can be switched off to make sure no more RAFP syndrome. The Touch LCD can still keep alive...
Not on the newer models. You can only select either AF or AF+AE, but no "off"
 
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I have had a couple of instances with the GX9 ( the one I have now, not the defective one I had exchanged) where it simply refuses to focus and yet still takes the shot. It's not common, and it's usually after it has racked the lens back and forth to capture focus on something without success, but instead of continuing to try to focus, at that point it just stops and lets you actually shoot, with the result of just a big blur. Not sure what that's about . . .
The G9's setting for Focus/Release Priority has a new option in addition to Focus and Release: Balanced, which theoretically could explain this behavior. (???) I'm sure you must be aware of this, if it also exists on the GX9, but just in case . . . .

I found the G9 to be significantly better than my prior bodies in terms of color. Not something that shows up on spec lists, but Panasonic has definitely made some strides in this department.
 
I have had a couple of instances with the GX9 ( the one I have now, not the defective one I had exchanged) where it simply refuses to focus and yet still takes the shot. It's not common, and it's usually after it has racked the lens back and forth to capture focus on something without success, but instead of continuing to try to focus, at that point it just stops and lets you actually shoot, with the result of just a big blur. Not sure what that's about . . .
The G9's setting for Focus/Release Priority has a new option in addition to Focus and Release: Balanced, which theoretically could explain this behavior. (???) I'm sure you must be aware of this, if it also exists on the GX9, but just in case . . . .
Oddly enough, mine is just set for focus, not balance, which should preempt this behavior...but maybe it has some kind of internal limit anyway even on "focus" that stops it from continuing to try? Very curious.
I found the G9 to be significantly better than my prior bodies in terms of color. Not something that shows up on spec lists, but Panasonic has definitely made some strides in this department.
Yes, they really have. They have come an amazingly long way from my much loved, but oh so terribly greenish, GH2... :-D

-J
 
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Not sure how GX8 does it.

On GX7, GX85 and G85, Touch Pad AF, Touch AF and Touch LCD can be switched on/off independently.
On all of the newest bodies, you can no longer independently shut off Touch AF unless you turn off the Touch settings completely.
IIRC on my testing on GX9 in showroom, GX9 and GX85 (indeed also the G85) should be similar on Touch setting.

The followings are extracted from the pdf manual of GX9 (left) and GX85 (right) regarding the Touch setting under Custom Menu:. It seems that Touch Pad AF and Touch AF on GX9 should be the same as its other siblings:

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If you are an evf shoot, Touch Pad AF should be the usual culprit on the running away focus point easily move the focus point (RAFP) syndrome. We can disable it and keep Touch AF and Touch LCD (for the Tab Menu, Q.Menu etc operation) alive.
I have the Touch Pad AF disabled, but I think my nose hits it before the EVF switches on sometimes :) .
One step further, the Touch AF (when we shoot with LCD) can be switched off to make sure no more RAFP syndrome. The Touch LCD can still keep alive...
Not on the newer models. You can only select either AF or AF+AE, but no "off"
Is it referring to the AE/AF option (to set the behaviour of AE/AF-L button only?) under Custom Menu? AFAIK it has nothing to do with the Touch setting.

Panny might add new items on every new generation of models (e.g. Touch AF/Touch Pad AF on the 7th generation, Auto ISO in M but no EC support, Dial Operation Switch and Cursor Button Lock etc on the 8th generation, My Menu to the 9th generation etc), but generally Panny has a relatively consistent Menu system and style of operation.

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Albert
** Please feel free to download the original image I posted here and edit it as you like :-) **
 
Congrats on your new camera! I had the Gx7, the GX80 and finally the GX9, along with the Gm1 and GM5, and I must say the output from the camera is probably the best I've seen (maybe slightly inferior to the G9, which has similar color output but more sophisticated noise reduction).

Big kudos to Panasonic that has improved its color science drastically over the years. My first Panasonic was the Lx5, which I could not keep as the white balance/color rendition was really horrible. I was used to Canon and Fuji compact cameras at the time, and the Lx5, while having great ergonomics and a nice lens, produced awful looking portraits.

The GM1/Gx7/GM5 were nice, but not quite there yet. The GX80 generation was, to me, a misstep as it produced some weird looking blocking artifacts along with magenta blobs on faces. Fortunately, the Gx9 fixed this and then some.

I let the Gx9 go recently and replaced it with the E-M5.3, but it's not all rosy.
On the one hand, Panasonic has improved its jpegs quality a lot, while one the other hand, Olympus seems to have been stagnating since the E-M1.1 (or even EM5.1). Auto white balance is still as bad as before, and the range of settings is still almost unusable.
I never thought I'd say this one day, but to me, it's clear that Panasonic Jpegs are now better than what Olympus offers.
 
I have had a couple of instances with the GX9 ( the one I have now, not the defective one I had exchanged) where it simply refuses to focus and yet still takes the shot. It's not common, and it's usually after it has racked the lens back and forth to capture focus on something without success, but instead of continuing to try to focus, at that point it just stops and lets you actually shoot, with the result of just a big blur. Not sure what that's about . . .
The G9's setting for Focus/Release Priority has a new option in addition to Focus and Release: Balanced, which theoretically could explain this behavior. (???) I'm sure you must be aware of this, if it also exists on the GX9, but just in case . . . .
Oddly enough, mine is just set for focus, not balance, which should preempt this behavior...but maybe it has some kind of internal limit anyway even on "focus" that stops it from continuing to try? Very curious.
I found the G9 to be significantly better than my prior bodies in terms of color. Not something that shows up on spec lists, but Panasonic has definitely made some strides in this department.
Yes, they really have. They have come an amazingly long way from my much loved, but oh so terribly greenish, GH2... :-D
I just pretended I was shooting Fujichrome. 😜
 
Thanks for the comparison. I’ll stick with my GX8, thank you. If only Panasonic would release a version 2!

Great shots! Which lens did you use?

Thanks for identifying pokeberries. Fabulous shot with those! (I take lots of berry shots) I always thought they were sumac. But, then my plant identification skills pretty much boil down to colors.
 
Great shots! Which lens did you use?
I would have guessed the 100-300, except I don't think it can do 200mm at f/4 (the berry shot). So the last two shots are consistent with the 200mm f/2.8 without and with the 1.4x TC. The first two with some other lens (35-100, 14-140, 12-100???).
 
The first two (duck and marsh) were taken with the plastic fantastic Oly 40-150mm f4-5.6, a lens that can produce surprisingly nice output. The berries were taken with the PL 50-200mm with an extension tube, and the bee on marigold was taken with also the PL but with the 1.4TC (I might have had an extension tube on it also, but I don't remember; I was switching combos around a lot that afternoon).

Oh, and I don't plan on getting rid of the GX8. It's a great camera, and I plan to use it in tandem with the GX9. However, the improvements to IQ in the GX9 give it a niche that the GX8 has a bit harder time in, so it has definitely a complementary place in the gear lineup.

-J
 
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interesting to read your views of the gx9. i can't comment on the comparisons to gx8, as i have never handled one

i bought mine primarily as a backup and light weight camera to my oly em 1 ii, for when i go hiking and also to see if it went better with my pana 100-300 for birding

thought i'd add my comments as there don't seem to be many reviews, comments or users of the gx9...poor seller ?

like you i find the colour rendering pleasant - for me not quite to oly standard but then i like a lush look

i find it much easier to find my way around than with the oly but then it has far less menu choices. this is what i wanted anyway. the menu and fn2 quick menus are very good and easy to change setups, as are the custom choices on the top dial

the screen is good but i prefer fas. no deal breaker and i just adapt my style to suit the camera - which is a bit weird but...

like you the evf is not bad but it's not great. just too small. contrary to popular opinion i find n problem with polarised sunglasses. i have the rubber eye cup thingy, which hekps in most light (i am a speccy person)

compared to the oly the af is slower and misses more. it's still good though and it's not surprising in a camera 1/3 of the price. it wasn't what i bought the thing for. the most irritating thing is that i can't find a way to have peaking in af mode like i can with the oly. i want to be in af, press a button on the back to keep it in af but see focus peaking...anyone ?

noise is not a problem in either camera and i am not sure why all the nonsense is written about noise and mft. it's all about getting your exposure right with ss and aperture. yes i know you need to increase iso if you are after taking moving objects in the dark but i have no issues up to 6400

ergonomics is nothing like the em 1 but then it weighs less and is smaller !. however i find that i support with the lens and not the body. no problem

still trying to find a way to get consistently well focused small birds and have found that using the 4k mode with 49 area and aff gives me my best results

2 cropped pics below. one with 4k and the other with m burst



tufty in the rain
tufty in the rain



geraldine (and gerald) in the rain
geraldine (and gerald) in the rain

same conclusion. good middle end camera and very well priced at under 500 eur with the invisible 12-32 lens

First, the good:

The best thing about this camera is that the color rendition is just excellent. Panasonic really stepped it up more than one notch here; They finally tweaked out the greenish cast to the yellows that they were prone to, yet didn't go over to the full Oly-type super lush color rendering, for which I am very grateful.

Next is overall functionality. Even though it does not have as many buttons as the GX8, it has enough for my purposes, and it does have the two dials plus the exposure dial, so it's plenty adjustable.

The flippy LCD is also something I prefer, and I find I am using that far more than I use the FAS on the GX8. I'm not a hard head about what kind of articulation a camera has; If a camera has everything I want in other features, the screen type is not a make-or-break issue for me. However, since I do prefer to use the flippy screen and the GX9 has a nice one, it gets points from me on that score.

This brings us to the EVF: I was expecting it to be, well, BAD. Fortunately, I was very pleasantly surprised to find that Panasonic had put a better lens in the front of the EVF this time, so no coke-bottle distortion! Hallelujah! Of course, it's not a BIG panel in there, and it is field sequential, but the FS rainbow effect is much, much, reduced over earlier generation versions. A GX8 it's not, but it is absolutely eminently usable, and noticeably better than its GX7, and GX85 predecessors.

Lower light AF is very good, I think it locks on to things just a little better than the GX8 does in very low light.

Overall sensor noise control is improved over the GX8. This is especially obvious as you start bumping up the ISO a bit. I still wouldn't want to use M43 much over ISO 3200, but my overall impression is that I can shoot acceptably detailed and clean shots in lower light up to ISO 1600 easily with the GX9, and I even have pet shots with very good fur detail at ISO 3200 with it. On the GX8 there is much more detail loss at low light ISO 1600. Now, this is subjective as I have not sat down and shot identical images to compare, but judging from what I have to do in PP to clean up the shots, I think there is a decided advantage to the GX9 in this area.

Now the downsides:

The IBIS is OK, when used on non-stabilized lenses, but it's definitely not as good as the Oly version. It's a little better than the version on the GX8, but not, surprisingly, as much better as I thought it would be. On the other hand, when used with a Panasonic lens with stabilization, the Dual IS is VERY effective. It does makes kind of a clunk when it engages (the version on my GX8 does also, but I was surprised that this one does too).

Panasonic did some tweaks to their touch screen options after the GX8, so the ability to shut off the touch screen while still allowing access to the virtual function buttons on it is no longer an option (I think the GX8 might have been the only camera that let you do that, though, as all of the other current ones don't either).

If you are left eyed, the distance the eyepiece protrudes out behind the screen is too shallow, so your nose tends to move the focus point around....I have the larger eye cup on order, which should take care of that, but, since you can't turn off the touchscreen only partially, it's something left-eyed shooters should be aware of if they want to leave the touch screen functions on.

I have had a couple of instances with the GX9 ( the one I have now, not the defective one I had exchanged) where it simply refuses to focus and yet still takes the shot. It's not common, and it's usually after it has racked the lens back and forth to capture focus on something without success, but instead of continuing to try to focus, at that point it just stops and lets you actually shoot, with the result of just a big blur. Not sure what that's about, and it might be a lens/body issue (it seemed to do it more on the plastic fantastic Oly 40-150mm f 4-5.6). I have to explore that a bit more to see if I can narrow down when it's actually occurring.

The grip is...meh. :) I'll probably try and dig up a half case for it at some point, which will solve that nicely.

And, last, but not least, it feels and works like a decent, middle of the line camera, which is what it is. It does not have the build quality or feel of a higher end mechanical device, which the GX8 does. I'm not faulting it for this; it was not nearly as expensive as the GX8, so I did not expect all the little niceties that that body has to have made their way to this one. The good thing is that the GX9's output is really excellent, which compensates for losing some of the GX8's elan :-D .

Conclusion:
Excellent middle-end M43 camera in a decently small form factor with great looking output. The EVF isn't world class, but it's very usable, with the updates it has from the previous models with it. I'm keeping this one!

Some photos below with examples of the really quite nice color rendition of this body:


Freshly molted Mallard in his lustrous new plumage :)


My favorite marsh


Pokeweed berries! No, not edible...


Very slow moving bees in the chill out there today. (It's a Carpenter Bee). And yes, they do bore holes in wood to nest, ergo their name.

-J


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anyone is welcome to do anything they want with my images except sell them for profit
 
Yes, they really have. They have come an amazingly long way from my much loved, but oh so terribly greenish, GH2... :-D
I had the blueish version.

Other than the awful colors, it was a great little camera.
 

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