Michael Reichman bashing.

[Mitch G.]

All I can think is that a lot of people on this forum need to do
less fondling of their equipment and get out and take pictures more
often

Oh, they will, soon enough . . . pictures of rulers and the like . . .

M.G.

 

[Paul Pope]

Their biggest problem is

1. 1 Michael is pretty much always 100% right

and

1. 2 Michael takes a pretty nice picture (ie: better then they could ever do)

So natrualy I'm skeptical .... I don't see many pro photographers having issues with what he says ...only desperate amature "pixel peepers"

As for it being libelous as Michael lives in the US and its unlikely it is libelous in the USA ....however other comments made on this forum in different juristictions paticularly the UK and other commenwealth countries may well be such and I'd suggest its only a matter of time before the posters of such comments are brought to justice.

Doug Brown wrote:
--
'Stop it now or you will go blind'

 

[melvin sokolsky]

Melvin, "Hats-off !" and all due respect(VERY considerable) for
your photographic skill and accomplishments.

Accolades also to MR (whom I also have defended here) for his
numerous contributions.

Careful reading:

...Diogenes of Sinope, the prototypical Cynic.
He is reported to have been seen barking in public, urinating on
the leg of a table, and masturbating on the street.

"...is reported to have...". (?) Classic phrase often used to
falsely establish belief based upon unfounded rumor. ("Reported" by
the historical equivalent of "The Star", or "The National
Enquirer"? "Reported" by his enemies?
Adds "color" to a discussion, ...but not necessarily any substance.
;-)

Logic (of the "false" persuasion):

"I/we can-do/have-done better work as a photographer than you,
...therefore my/our opinion(s) on all matters photographic (and
possibly all others , as well) is(are) superior."

[Or , as Bush might (fumblingly try-to) say: "None of you has been
President, ...therefore my judgement (integrity, intelligence,
etc.)is superior to yours, ...my acts/opinions are not to be
questioned/criticised by you.]

Melvin, I certainly admire your work(!), ...just not this
particular type of attempting to prevail-by-qualification, rather
than idea-merit. [Which, incidentally, appears frequently in these
discussions: ("Oh yeah? ...Let's see your WORK!")

Like the spurious "reporting" above, ...such "challenges" prove
nothing re. the soundness of any position on a topic under
discussion!

Larry

I believe RickS deserves the label of cynic.

Larry, believe me I am not trying to prevail by rank. I believe Mr. Reichman's reviews are well thought out ideas that have merit.

Would you rather spend a year as an apprentice to Ansel Adams or some of the cynics who post only negative challenges on the forum?

I am certainly in favor of debate. Debate that is based on a learning curve instead of the blatant inferences of reviewers who are on the take from the companies they review favorably. Think of it, even Phil has been accused of pandering to certain companies.

I don't know about you but I would have taken the job as coffee boy for Leonardo Da Vinci.

http://www.melvinsokolsky.com/
--
jrisc

 

[melvin sokolsky]

Their biggest problem is

1. 1 Michael is pretty much always 100% right

and

1. 2 Michael takes a pretty nice picture (ie: better then they could

ever do)

So natrualy I'm skeptical .... I don't see many pro photographers
having issues with what he says ...only desperate amature "pixel
peepers"

As for it being libelous as Michael lives in the US and its
unlikely it is libelous in the USA ....however other comments made
on this forum in different juristictions paticularly the UK and
other commenwealth countries may well be such and I'd suggest its
only a matter of time before the posters of such comments are
brought to justice.

Doug Brown wrote:
--
'Stop it now or you will go blind'

Paul,

You said it all better than all of us. By the way you've got to stop the Melvin (god) S--T or I'll move to the UK so you can be brought to justice. By the way Michael spells color (colour) I believe he is English living in Canada.

I can't believe I'm looking for the spell checker... ahhh screw it.

Paul, after you go blind does all the good stuff happen?

http://www.melvinsokolsky.com/
--
jrisc

 

[kevin logan]

To RickS: You must be the biggest moron (there is/was someone else I previously held in regard as the biggest moron, but you top him) I have ever seen post in these/this (I notice you only post in the 1D/1Ds forum amd I also notice your rather clandestine profile) forum(s). Mr. Sokolsky is an icon in both the art & business of photography. His comments should be taken as "words from on high", NOT spell & grammer checked!!!. Whether or not you agree or disagree with his opinoins, you simply should be more respectful. Clearly you are not, nor have you ever been, a REAL photographer, which, BOTTOM LINE, THIS IS A PHOTOHRAPHY RELATED WEB SITE, albeit, digital, however, you clearly now NOTHING about photography!!!!.......
So IMO F_cK OFF

Yours truly,
Kevin A. Logan

http://www.melvinsokolsky.com/

--
Kevin Logan
http://kevinlogan.com

 

[Adam-T]

Sometimes he exaggerates. Sometimes he comes to conclusions that
aren't well-supported. Hey - nobody's perfect. If nothing else,
I'm amazed by how mych energy the guy has - he really posts an
amazing number of well-written articles on his site,

I agree - I like Luminous Landscape as a site and a lot of his writings also, I have issues with some of the reviews, I'm sure that he would have issues with some lens reviews I've written also (and some of my conclusions aren't well supported either ;-) .

I wasn't bashing Michael, just trying to point how possibly the Bashing begins and why he tends to get plenty of it, he may not be "the great I AM" in real life but the problem with text is that it doesn't convey emotion and people read it differently and that is how he can come across sometimes - I may come across like that also but no one cares because I'm a total nobody and not in the Limelight so to speak. A lot of the time I agree with what MR writes and he has as much right to post his opinions as everyone else , but I WOULD suggest that he just gets on with the reports and stops the unprofessional "Pixel Peeper" pages and addendums, if he has issues with people's remarks, stick to posting on the boards or Email like Phil and Dave do........

--
Please ignore the Typos, I'm the world's worst Typist

EOS-1D - Sigma SD9

 

[Guy Mancuso]

When god (melvin) speaks ...you eirther listern or not
At your own peril......

--Melvin I only use spell check on my invoices , guess that is when it really counts. ROTFLMAO
GUY

I can't spell worth c..p either

 

[lrgfmt]

grew up in Canada.. they use the Queens's english spelling there, so colour it is.

jim

pretty much agree as well. for the most part, i'd say many of the serious trolling is done by young high school students with too much time on the internet.

Their biggest problem is

1. 1 Michael is pretty much always 100% right

and

1. 2 Michael takes a pretty nice picture (ie: better then they could

ever do)

So natrualy I'm skeptical .... I don't see many pro photographers
having issues with what he says ...only desperate amature "pixel
peepers"

As for it being libelous as Michael lives in the US and its
unlikely it is libelous in the USA ....however other comments made
on this forum in different juristictions paticularly the UK and
other commenwealth countries may well be such and I'd suggest its
only a matter of time before the posters of such comments are
brought to justice.

Doug Brown wrote:
--
'Stop it now or you will go blind'

Paul,

You said it all better than all of us. By the way you've got to
stop the Melvin (god) S--T or I'll move to the UK so you can be
brought to justice. By the way Michael spells color (colour) I
believe he is English living in Canada.

I can't believe I'm looking for the spell checker... ahhh screw it.

Paul, after you go blind does all the good stuff happen?

http://www.melvinsokolsky.com/
--
jrisc

 

[Guy Mancuso]

When god (melvin) speaks ...you eirther listern or not
At your own peril......

--Melvin I only use spell check on my invoices , guess that is when
it really counts. ROTFLMAO
GUY

I can't spell worth c..p either

--Paul and Melvin when you are able to talk about the 1dMKII or when you get it . Not sure who has it or not but anyway would love to hear your opinion on the files that coming out of it. Always good to here from many pro's what there thoughts are. matbe than we can get some serious dialogue going. Which I know I look forward to instead of wasted bandwidth. Thanks Guy
GUY

 

[Tim Wright]

"The gap in megapixel count between high-end DSLRs and digicams is
now over." INCORRECT, HIGH END = 11-14 MP, DIGICAM = 8MP.

By high end he is talking about High dollar (pro level) cameras and the new 8 megapixel consumer cameras not which cameras have the highest level of pixels. Like I said if you hate him and his opinions so much why bother to read them.

 

[Mitch Conner]

I'm amazed at all of the unchallenged assumptions Michael
Reichmann's detractors put forth.
He's arrogant/ conceited/ pompous/ full of himself, etc.

It would be a trivial exercise to cut and paste to show this.

He lurks on these forums constantly/

Lurks yes, constantly no.

structures his articles for

maximum reaction from the DPReview crowd/

He does this at times, so yes.

measures his success

against Phil's/ etc.

He is quite attuned to this.

Speculation about the size of his audience/

He makes claims about this - 6 figures worth of readers per month.

wealth or lack of/

I don't think anyone thinks he's poor with his plasma TV and $75 Audi.

financial motivations behind the opinions he expresses, etc.

He wants to get hits. Obviously. He wants people to buy his DVDs.

And comments on his photographic expertise from wannabes who've
barely shown a single image on this site, let alone been
responsible for maintaining a flow of imagery over all the years
Michael Reichmann has, week in and week out.

He is primarily a landscape photog whose work should be compared to other landscape photogs.

Quite a few members of this forum ought to be embarrassed at the
way they've allowed themselves to get completely bent out of shape
over his writings. Some of these comments are so out of line they
verge on being libelous.

You mean slander. Libel is only for defamation spoken orally. This is true because I'm a lawyer with 40 years of experience and you're not. [Wink.]

Maybe I missed something in previous threads, but I've never seen
Michael Reichmann post anything on DPReview's forums.

I doubt that he posts here these days.

How one could

leap to the conclusion he lurks here constantly is beyond me.

He's not here constantly but sometimes he reacts to comments here within several minutes.

And

where is he alleged to have 'lashed out at his critics', as has
been repeated in these threads ad nauseum?
As for his personality, perhaps it's his writing style that puts
you off because I can tell you from having met him twice that your
descriptions are laughable inaccurate.

I think you are confusing the person with the persona. The comments here relate to his writings.

 

[Mitch Conner]

Alright, but the gap is still there. It is not "over".

You could have made the same essay about the G1 and D30 3.5 years ago. Banal then, banal now.

"The gap in megapixel count between high-end DSLRs and digicams is
now over." INCORRECT, HIGH END = 11-14 MP, DIGICAM = 8MP.

By high end he is talking about High dollar (pro level) cameras and
the new 8 megapixel consumer cameras not which cameras have the
highest level of pixels. Like I said if you hate him and his
opinions so much why bother to read them.

 

[Ron Parr]

You mean slander. Libel is only for defamation spoken orally. This
is true because I'm a lawyer with 40 years of experience and you're
not. [Wink.]

A lawyer should know the difference between slander and libel. Slander is spoken. Libel is written.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=slander

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=libel

I have 30+ years of experience using dictionaries. [Wink.]

--
Ron Parr
FAQ: http://www.cs.duke.edu/~parr/photography/faq.html
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/parr/

 

[Ulysses]

Pekka, not you too!!!!???

Amazing.

Oh cut the dren already!

--

Ulysses
http://www.ulyssesphotography.com

 

[Ulysses]

There it is!! Ahhhhh, I've missed Sparky.

That's Excellent ! - and worthy of a showing of one of my old Sig Pics

--

Ulysses
http://www.ulyssesphotography.com

 

[RickS170293]

To RickS: You must be the biggest moron (there is/was someone else
I previously held in regard as the biggest moron, but you top him)
I have ever seen post in these/this (I notice you only post in the
1D/1Ds forum amd I also notice your rather clandestine profile)
forum(s).

Put down the crackpipe son. I've decided to preclude my email address from my profile to avoid the love-letters you would no doubt send my way.

Mr. Sokolsky is an icon in both the art & business of
photography. His comments should be taken as "words from on high",
NOT spell & grammer checked!!!. Whether or not you agree or
disagree with his opinoins, you simply should be more respectful.

Icon eh? As in Jesus-on-the-cross "on high"? So I should kiss his butt and kneel at his feet, hoping for some "word on high"? (as you apparantly are hoping for...)

Clearly you are not, nor have you ever been, a REAL photographer,
which, BOTTOM LINE, THIS IS A PHOTOHRAPHY RELATED WEB SITE, albeit,
digital, however, you clearly now NOTHING about
photography!!!!.......
So IMO F_cK OFF

My my, temper temper... This ENTIRE THREAD is off-topic for this forum.

Yes, you GOT ME. I'm a "fake photographer", actually I don't even own a camera...

Actually, I'm a CYNIC, as Mel so graciously pointed out. My reply to him was tongue-in-cheek, as MR's last "essay" was.

Sorry to not be a member or the Mel/Michael mutual admiration society/fan club. We'll see that YOU get a gold star from both of them, for your valiant rush to defend them from the know-nothing/fake photographer.

That would be as soon as we see how Phil enjoys your over-the-top usage of OBSCENITY on his forum.

Rick
Cynic, Speel Chekker

 

[melvin sokolsky]

You mean slander. Libel is only for defamation spoken orally. This
is true because I'm a lawyer with 40 years of experience and you're
not. [Wink.]

A lawyer should know the difference between slander and libel.
Slander is spoken. Libel is written.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=slander

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=libel

I have 30+ years of experience using dictionaries. [Wink.]

--
Ron Parr
FAQ: http://www.cs.duke.edu/~parr/photography/faq.html
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/parr/

Ron,

So who do we believe? [wink]

Reminds me of a story about John Huston the film director.

As the story goes Huston was caught in bed with another woman by his wife who stormed into the room and actually catching him in the act.

Huston reared up in the bed and adressed his furious wife. " Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes"?

Best,

http://www.melvinsokolsky.com/

--
jrisc

 

[Imagemaster]

to be up & running soon. Every word will be the gospel truth and M. Reichmann to be the spell-checker. To be sponsored by Canon or Coca-Cola. May include movie reviews.

 

[Adam-T]

Pekka, not you too!!!!???

Lunacy is not necessarily just a British and American thing you know - Heck, it's an Australian show!..

Just goes to show also that good taste comes from angles - and Sparky's camera list needs modding somewhat ;-0 if he had one, it'd definately be that U60 (Hynerians are Aquatic)

--
Please ignore the Typos, I'm the world's worst Typist

EOS-1D - Sigma SD9

 

[RickS170293]

Please forgive me Mr. Sokolsky.

I never intended to debate or contradict someone of your stature.

Already the death threats from your minions of professional photographers and acolytes are clogging my email box.

Please forgive my cynicism and sarcasm at your off-topic thread concerning the wondrous Michael Reichman. If I had any idea how important he was, your icon-ness, I would never have presumed to correct your spelling. Also forgive me for not recognizing immediately, a man of your stature, and for not bowing down and agreeing with you, simply because you are, who you are.

Please bestow your forgiveness upon me, and bless my cameras and lenses, so that I may rise above the "fake photography" that your disciple Kevin accuses me of.

end sarcastic rant

But seriously, aside from correcting your spelling errors and yawning at your attempts to raise MR to Sainthood, I hope that you realize the derision he’s received on other threads here, is exactly what he has sought. I’m sure he’s having lots of fun trolling DP Review and the other sites he mentions, just as I’m sure he’s aware the attention he gets HERE, means more people are reading him THERE. It’s called the “marketing troll”, and apparently, it’s been very successful. Successful enough, apparently to warrant your appearance here to defend him.

I think your work speaks for itself, and doesn’t require my idolization of you, as others here have chosen to exhibit. The “did you take those” comment was obviously a cynical sarcastic poke at fun.

Your definition of “Cynic” now holds a prize place on my bulletin board. Perhaps one day, if our paths ever cross, I could impose upon you to autograph it for me.

Accept my apologies if you were honestly offended…

Rick

Kevin & friends can go urinate up a rope…