A6700 biggest disappointments?

[Bender79ita]

I’ll go first:

1) flash sync still a slow 1/160

That might be annoying to some people I suppose...

2) max interval for timelapse is 60 seconds

Isn't it possible to use a remote? You have both USB-C for charging, and multi for remote... or not? Might be wron here.

3) no flash (useful for triggering off camera flash)

Isn't just better to use a dedicated TTL trigger?

4) Increase in noise

Yet to be determined, testing methotodology might have been wrong. Test chart was moved. Gordon Laing that did the test in the same conditions and reported a tiny little improvement.

Honestly I was 100% sure that this camera was gonna be as it is. I was also kind wary of the price (FX30 can't cost SO much more).

Maybe a little disappointed in the lack of a second card slot, and more e-shutter fps.

Like, different modes, 60 fps jpeg only burst with crop etc, although a frame off 10 bit 4k 120fps video might not be much worse than a jpeg.

 

[BackToNature1]

1) EVF/LCD

2) Battery Life

3) FPS

4) No Pre Capture?

5) No significant IBIS improvement

6) Same or worse IQ out of camera

 

[José B]

That it took so long to get here. OTOH, it's quite current when looking at features. That said, I'm also one who hopes for a stacked sensor alternative, too.

This.

Got mine yesterday together with an uhs-ii v90 sd and though not stacked it is totally amazing, compared with the a6400 it actually feels like having a7000. I've just put it through some paces with the e-shutter, jpeg only but also jpeg+raw and having it write down 1290 images in a matter of less than a few minutes completely changes the entire experience. 33gb in a matter of minutes without slowing down (jpeg only) or slowing down somewhat (jpeg+raw) but still going at it while also being able to operate menu's and stuff is far beyond any other apsc, sony and other.

You got your A6700 already? Congrats!

Thx! hoping for yours also to arrive sooner rather than later, it is really something else.

Thanks as well. It's less than two weeks away, can't wait. I'll likely try out the Touit 32/1.8 first which is my slowest focusing lens.

 

[Adam-T]

But an A7RC, ... ?

Now, a 61 mp mini A7Rv? Oh yes,

Nahh, they need to re-use a tweaked version of the fantastic 42Mp A7R2/3 sensor , it`s not appeared in a camera with decent AF so far which is a waste and IMO it`s a better allround sensor than the 60Mp one being cleaner with better shadow recovery and without the pixel bloat (42Mp is more than enough for most people and 40-50Mp is a FF sweetspot

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[Dirk W]

I would have liked a 40 mp sensor without low pass filter. That's why I liked the A7rII so much, but even more I want the APS-C compactness.

 

[MFiftysomething]

add very slow electronic shutter

 

[PieterB]

I’ll go first:

1) flash sync still a slow 1/160

2) max interval for timelapse is 60 seconds

3) no flash (useful for triggering off camera flash)

4) Increase in noise

11 fps.

1/4000 shutter speed mechanical.

Having written the above I think the new improvements like the massive buffer i.e. in jpegs it's over 1,000 vs to slightly over 100 with the A6600, deeper grip, improved AF, updated menu and touch functions are enough for me to upgrade from the A6600.

1/4000 could be a problem for me.

The buffer size would never be an issue for my type of shooting. I hardly ever shoot action. Maybe once in every two years. In any case, for my type of shooting not a problem.

Increase in noise is bad to everybody I think.

 

[Barnie25]

I’ll go first:

1) flash sync still a slow 1/160

2) max interval for timelapse is 60 seconds

3) no flash (useful for triggering off camera flash)

4) Increase in noise

11 fps.

1/4000 shutter speed mechanical.

Having written the above I think the new improvements like the massive buffer i.e. in jpegs it's over 1,000 vs to slightly over 100 with the A6600, deeper grip, improved AF, updated menu and touch functions are enough for me to upgrade from the A6600.

1/4000 could be a problem for me.

The buffer size would never be an issue for my type of shooting. I hardly ever shoot action. Maybe once in every two years. In any case, for my type of shooting not a problem.

Increase in noise is bad to everybody I think.

 

[Martin_99]

I’ll go first:

1) flash sync still a slow 1/160

2) max interval for timelapse is 60 seconds

3) no flash (useful for triggering off camera flash)

4) Increase in noise

11 fps.

1/4000 shutter speed mechanical.

Having written the above I think the new improvements like the massive buffer i.e. in jpegs it's over 1,000 vs to slightly over 100 with the A6600, deeper grip, improved AF, updated menu and touch functions are enough for me to upgrade from the A6600.

1/4000 could be a problem for me.

The buffer size would never be an issue for my type of shooting. I hardly ever shoot action. Maybe once in every two years. In any case, for my type of shooting not a problem.

Increase in noise is bad to everybody I think.

For what applications would you need a shutter speed higher than 1/4000? Broad daylight shots?

For me it's not really an issue, but 1/8000 would be welcomed improvement (really, how hard/expensive is to implement it??) for daylight shots with primes wide open without ND.

 

[turke]

Since I was and am a "baby A9" believer, has to be a non-stacked sensor. Having one would just be so big for my photography.

I do fully understand it's a very very big ask that will probably never happen, but I can't help be disappointed.

Pre-buffer is also a pretty big miss.

 

[PieterB]

I’ll go first:

1) flash sync still a slow 1/160

2) max interval for timelapse is 60 seconds

3) no flash (useful for triggering off camera flash)

4) Increase in noise

11 fps.

1/4000 shutter speed mechanical.

Having written the above I think the new improvements like the massive buffer i.e. in jpegs it's over 1,000 vs to slightly over 100 with the A6600, deeper grip, improved AF, updated menu and touch functions are enough for me to upgrade from the A6600.

1/4000 could be a problem for me.

The buffer size would never be an issue for my type of shooting. I hardly ever shoot action. Maybe once in every two years. In any case, for my type of shooting not a problem.

Increase in noise is bad to everybody I think.

For what applications would you need a shutter speed higher than 1/4000? Broad daylight shots?

Well I sold all my fast lenses when I bought my new camera but sometimes 1/4000 would not be fast enough when I wanted to isolate a subject and so chose f1,8 on my last a6400 in really bright sunlight. I had to used an ND filter. It is not often though.

 

[José B]

I’ll go first:

1) flash sync still a slow 1/160

2) max interval for timelapse is 60 seconds

3) no flash (useful for triggering off camera flash)

4) Increase in noise

11 fps.

1/4000 shutter speed mechanical.

Having written the above I think the new improvements like the massive buffer i.e. in jpegs it's over 1,000 vs to slightly over 100 with the A6600, deeper grip, improved AF, updated menu and touch functions are enough for me to upgrade from the A6600.

1/4000 could be a problem for me.

I have a few f/1.8 lenses and one f/1.4 lenses in e-mount. I occasionally run into this issue as I shoot with a shallow DOF on sometimes bright and sunny days. I don't carry an ND filter with me so my workaround is to increase the depth of field and just use Adobe's neural filter (depth blur) in post. The other instance is when I am shooting tennis which is usually in August and matches begin at 11am.

I'm glad my Canon R6MKII has 1/8000 sec. mechanical shutter because I have a couple of f/1.2 lenses.

The buffer size would never be an issue for my type of shooting. I hardly ever shoot action. Maybe once in every two years. In any case, for my type of shooting not a problem.

Increase in noise is bad to everybody I think.

Noise is not an issue for me. I have a few excellent denoise software to choose from which are pretty easy and quick to use.

 

[zackiedawg]

Side-flip LCD without tilt tray. I always hated side-flip screens since I never shoot video, but there are solutions where the screen can still do tilt and allow side flip for those who want full articulation...that solution would be much better. Now for those of us who just want to be able to tilt - we can't...we have to side-flip always just to get a simple tilt.

Loss of in-camera stacking modes - primarily HDR stacking and MFNR ISO stacking.

Loss of IR remote compatibility. Only option for remote is to pair with cell phone...I don't want to use my phone as the remote - I've had a perfectly good Sony IR remote for 10 years that has worked with all my cameras, especially for night and bulb exposures.

High ISO performance - I'll wait for final tests and results to see if the JPGs can be tuned to turn down the NR and allow more detail and noise, but Dpreview samples so far at ISO 6400 are notably more smeared and lacking detail in shadow and darker color areas. This hopefully can be rectified in settings - so I'm leaving this one on the fence.

Relocating the video record button to the top plate - I preferred C1 and C2 there and use both for frequent settings - though at least they seem to have made the record button programmable, so I can still put one of my functions there. Also, removing the AE Lock/AF?MF button and switch, and replacing it with AF-On. Again, that button is programmable, so I can probably stick AE lock there, I preferred the switch that gave that position dual-functionality in one.

That's about it - overall, I like it as a follow up to the A6600, and hope that some of the improvements really are steps up - focus tracking, buffer size, electronic shutter speeds increased, subject tracking improvements, SS improvements, and keeping the price reasonable. So I'm looking forward to learning more about the ISO performance and ability to tune the JPG NR to taste...and to make sure the buttons I want to reprogram will allow me to put the desired function in that spot (sometimes, past Sony button programmability has been limited in some spots to only some functions).

 

[Nielk Mike]

1:EVF

2:EVF

3:EVF

 

[j tokarz]

Noise, no problem with me.

 

[Thad E Ginathom]

It looks like there is potentially so much more to control with the new af (which eye? change face? etc etc etc) that more C buttons are wanted. They could have added one to the left of the menu button.

What about the new on-screen icons, left and right? It would have been neat if they were customisable, but I'm pretty sure they are not.

There is no clue when it will be available in my country. Went to a photo/imaging expo yesterday, and there was no evidence of a6700 existence on show at the Sony stand.

 

[Craig Gillette]

I’ll go first:

1) flash sync still a slow 1/160

2) max interval for timelapse is 60 seconds

3) no flash (useful for triggering off camera flash)

4) Increase in noise

11 fps.

1/4000 shutter speed mechanical.

Having written the above I think the new improvements like the massive buffer i.e. in jpegs it's over 1,000 vs to slightly over 100 with the A6600, deeper grip, improved AF, updated menu and touch functions are enough for me to upgrade from the A6600.

1/4000 could be a problem for me.

The buffer size would never be an issue for my type of shooting. I hardly ever shoot action. Maybe once in every two years. In any case, for my type of shooting not a problem.

Increase in noise is bad to everybody I think.

Not sure there is a noise issue. It might be a problem with the particular review segment set up. Also, I remember the rather strident and not too uncommon discussions about how noisy the A7Riv was compared to it's predecessors. So sometimes these thoughts take hold and live on in discussions but are of no serious impact in actual use. impact

 

[philzucker]

Loss of IR remote compatibility. Only option for remote is to pair with cell phone...I don't want to use my phone as the remote - I've had a perfectly good Sony IR remote for 10 years that has worked with all my cameras, especially for night and bulb exposures.

Instead of a smartphone you can use a Bluetooth remote, Justin. I have a cheap third party one for my A6600 that should also work with the 6700. Works reliable and IIRC offers some extra features like precise focusing in steps that you don't get with an IR remote.

See here in the A6700 manual: https://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/2320/v1/en/contents/0706_bluetooth_remote.html

Phil

 

[PieterB]

Loss of IR remote compatibility. Only option for remote is to pair with cell phone...I don't want to use my phone as the remote - I've had a perfectly good Sony IR remote for 10 years that has worked with all my cameras, especially for night and bulb exposures.

Instead of a smartphone you can use a Bluetooth remote, Justin. I have a cheap third party one for my A6600 that should also work with the 6700. Works reliable and IIRC offers some extra features like precise focusing in steps that you don't get with an IR remote.

See here in the A6700 manual: https://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/2320/v1/en/contents/0706_bluetooth_remote.html

Phil

I've got a programmable remote. A simple stuff on which you can set up bulb times, time-lapse and other things.

 

[goactive]

I’ll go first:

1) flash sync still a slow 1/160

2) max interval for timelapse is 60 seconds

3) no flash (useful for triggering off camera flash)

4) Increase in noise

And The 1/4000 shutter speed mechanical.

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I shoot portraits for a living outdoors and I am at a Flash sync most all the time at 200 to 250 to be able to help knock the sun down.

Then the 4000 shutter speed when shooting natural light if I want to use a sigma 1,4 lens I can not as I would need to be way over 4000 unless I use a ND filter.

I can deal with using a ND ( but hate to hav to) at times but when using flash the 160 sync kills it for a lot of the work we do.

Was shooting todays job and was at 250 flash sync thinking wow if I was using the A6700 I could not do this.

But I am buying it to use the most for video and will see what I can get away with for our portrait jobs.