Monitor upgrade? (27" IPS 2K)-->(32" VA 4K)

[Whatever123]

I spend a lot of hours in Lightroom and i kinda decided to upgrade my monitor from this one

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www.samsung.com

To this one

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www.rtings.com

But am i doing a mistake?

Rtings give my new monitor a not so good rating but i don't think they are fair.
I mean i don't care about ergonomics, i can put a book under it, and i think the black uniformity is pretty good for a VA monitor because it has no flash lighting like so many other VA monitors.I know VA monitors aren't supposed to be better than PLA(IPS) like my old monitor is because of the viewing angles but i have never owned a VA monitor and i am intrigued by VA high contrast ratio. Also my new monitor's pre calibration status and sdr color gamut look pretty decent. I mean i can use my eyes to accurate calibrate the greys but other than that i don't have a calibration tool.

Other issues there are to consider other than my new monitor is VA and the old PLS(IPS) is that my old one has a much better stand which i am not terrible concerned about and it's also brighter that i am also not concerned about since i run it on 14% brightness.
Also my new monitor has PWM flicker if run at 30 or less brightness but I'll probably be able to run it at 31% since it's not as bright as the old one.

Another think i am concerned about is that the new monitor is a 4k one and my GPU is the GTX 1060 so not top of the line and i don't know if the sliders in lightroom will be as smooth as they were on my old 2k monitor.

What do you think?

 

[NickZ2016]

It looks like a monitor aimed at gaming or other desktop uses. Not an editing monitor. I don't see any mention of colour.

If you're looking for a monitor for Lightroom I'd put things like colour accuracy first.

 

[Liam from Ireland]

You could also try the PC forum, where you might get more interested readers. Good luck.

 

[Whatever123]

Rtings write that it has good pre calibration rating and good SDR color gamut and SDR color volume.

Isn't that what makes a good editing monitor?

 

[MCLV]

I personally wouldn't buy a monitor with VA panel based on the viewing angle issue alone. Because even if you would be viewing it exactly on axis in the center, edges of the monitor will always be significantly off axis. This is impossible to avoid with large PC monitors and usual viewing distance when sitting behind a desk.

To be completely fair, I never actually owned a VA monitor but I have a TV with VA panel (basic model without any wide viewing angle layers) and I wouldn't want a monitor that behaves like that.

 

[All Bushs Fault]

I spend a lot of hours in Lightroom and i kinda decided to upgrade my monitor from this one

https://www.samsung.com/in/monitors/s27h850/LS27H850QFUXEN/

To this one

https://www.samsung.com/us/computin...hd/32-uj590-uhd-monitor-lu32j590uqnxza/#specs

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/u32j590-uj59

But am i doing a mistake?

Yes. Google "best monitor for photo editing" and you will get typical links such as the one below. This particular list doesn't feature the brand I use, NEC, but does provide a wide range of pricing including the insanely priced Eizo.

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Rtings give my new monitor a not so good rating but i don't think they are fair.
I mean i don't care about ergonomics, i can put a book under it, and i think the black uniformity is pretty good for a VA monitor because it has no flash lighting like so many other VA monitors.I know VA monitors aren't supposed to be better than PLA(IPS) like my old monitor is because of the viewing angles but i have never owned a VA monitor and i am intrigued by VA high contrast ratio. Also my new monitor's pre calibration status and sdr color gamut look pretty decent. I mean i can use my eyes to accurate calibrate the greys but other than that i don't have a calibration tool.

Other issues there are to consider other than my new monitor is VA and the old PLS(IPS) is that my old one has a much better stand which i am not terrible concerned about and it's also brighter that i am also not concerned about since i run it on 14% brightness.
Also my new monitor has PWM flicker if run at 30 or less brightness but I'll probably be able to run it at 31% since it's not as bright as the old one.

Another think i am concerned about is that the new monitor is a 4k one and my GPU is the GTX 1060 so not top of the line and i don't know if the sliders in lightroom will be as smooth as they were on my old 2k monitor.

What do you think?

 

[Austinian]

I spend a lot of hours in Lightroom and i kinda decided to upgrade my monitor from this one

https://www.samsung.com/in/monitors/s27h850/LS27H850QFUXEN/

To this one

https://www.samsung.com/us/computin...hd/32-uj590-uhd-monitor-lu32j590uqnxza/#specs

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/u32j590-uj59

But am i doing a mistake?

Rtings give my new monitor a not so good rating but i don't think they are fair.
I mean i don't care about ergonomics, i can put a book under it, and i think the black uniformity is pretty good for a VA monitor because it has no flash lighting like so many other VA monitors.I know VA monitors aren't supposed to be better than PLA(IPS) like my old monitor is because of the viewing angles but i have never owned a VA monitor and i am intrigued by VA high contrast ratio.

I like high contrast ratios, too, but some find the VA image variations by viewing angle disturbing; some do not. Unless you can actually look at one of that particular model of monitor, I'd suggest you stick to IPS.

Also my new monitor's pre calibration status and sdr color gamut look pretty decent. I mean i can use my eyes to accurate calibrate the greys but other than that i don't have a calibration tool.

I don't think eyes can really be trusted, and manufacturer's calibration may not be valid for the particular settings each of us uses. I'd consider buying/borrowing an inexpensive hardware color calibrator.

Other issues there are to consider other than my new monitor is VA and the old PLS(IPS) is that my old one has a much better stand which i am not terrible concerned about and it's also brighter that i am also not concerned about since i run it on 14% brightness.

It looks like that monitor has a standard 100x100 VESA hole pattern; you can get lots of highly adjustable VESA monitor stands. I use one myself.

Also my new monitor has PWM flicker if run at 30 or less brightness but I'll probably be able to run it at 31% since it's not as bright as the old one.

Another think i am concerned about is that the new monitor is a 4k one and my GPU is the GTX 1060 so not top of the line and i don't know if the sliders in lightroom will be as smooth as they were on my old 2k monitor.

I think your card will be satisfactory for still image editing at 4K.

What do you think?

As has already been suggested, if you want more details the PC Talk forum gets a lot of monitor questions & answers.

 

[Liam from Ireland]

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[Bob A L]

I realize that we all look for different things in our monitors. but after getting used to monitors with 250 or so dpi. I just can't be happy with a monitor with half that or less. Most large screen monitors seem to max out at somewhere below 150 dpi. When I look at the same photos on a low dpi monitor the little dots just jump out at me. With 250 or better dpi, there are no visible dots and to me photos look so much better. But suppose it's a personal thing and some just really want big screen monitors. And it takes some research to find the dpi rating on some monitors. With the 4k type ratings, you have to do the math to find the dpi and a large 4k monitor has much lower dpi than a small 4k monitor. But that's why we have lots of choices I suppose.

 

[MCLV]

I realize that we all look for different things in our monitors. but after getting used to monitors with 250 or so dpi. I just can't be happy with a monitor with half that or less. Most large screen monitors seem to max out at somewhere below 150 dpi. When I look at the same photos on a low dpi monitor the little dots just jump out at me. With 250 or better dpi, there are no visible dots and to me photos look so much better. But suppose it's a personal thing and some just really want big screen monitors. And it takes some research to find the dpi rating on some monitors. With the 4k type ratings, you have to do the math to find the dpi and a large 4k monitor has much lower dpi than a small 4k monitor. But that's why we have lots of choices I suppose.

What's the viewing distance, display size and resolution of the monitor that you are using?

I'm just curious because 150 PPI at viewing distance of 60 cm/24 inches works out to 60 PPD (pixels per degree) which corresponds to 20/20 vision. However, I could see some improvement to up to roughly 100 PPD when I did some tests.

 

[liopleurodon]

If you are interested in a VA monitor I'd get this LG over the Samsung.

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It has much better black uniformity than the Sammy and outperforms it in brightness too. VA is awesome for contrast. IPS monitors are hot garbage when it comes to contrast. Computer monitors have a lot of catching up to do with TVs in terms of display quality.

 

[liopleurodon]

I realize that we all look for different things in our monitors. but after getting used to monitors with 250 or so dpi. I just can't be happy with a monitor with half that or less. Most large screen monitors seem to max out at somewhere below 150 dpi. When I look at the same photos on a low dpi monitor the little dots just jump out at me. With 250 or better dpi, there are no visible dots and to me photos look so much better. But suppose it's a personal thing and some just really want big screen monitors. And it takes some research to find the dpi rating on some monitors. With the 4k type ratings, you have to do the math to find the dpi and a large 4k monitor has much lower dpi than a small 4k monitor. But that's why we have lots of choices I suppose.

You're not getting a desktop monitor with 250ppi (printed media have dots, screens have pixels). My 24" 4k Dell has around 180dpi and it doesn't go much up from there.

 

[MCLV]

I realize that we all look for different things in our monitors. but after getting used to monitors with 250 or so dpi. I just can't be happy with a monitor with half that or less. Most large screen monitors seem to max out at somewhere below 150 dpi. When I look at the same photos on a low dpi monitor the little dots just jump out at me. With 250 or better dpi, there are no visible dots and to me photos look so much better. But suppose it's a personal thing and some just really want big screen monitors. And it takes some research to find the dpi rating on some monitors. With the 4k type ratings, you have to do the math to find the dpi and a large 4k monitor has much lower dpi than a small 4k monitor. But that's why we have lots of choices I suppose.

You're not getting a desktop monitor with 250ppi (printed media have dots, screens have pixels). My 24" 4k Dell has around 180dpi and it doesn't go much up from there.

Do you think you would get a noticeable improvement with a higher PPI than that?

 

[Bob]

You raised several valid issues, so I think you have a clear understanding of the implications.

I have a 27” BenQ monitor. At the time I was upgrading from a crappy LG monitor which was okay for spreadsheets but terrible for photos. Now I use the LG as a second screen for my Photoshop panels and the BenQ for the image itself.

The question you need to ask yourself is whether a new monitor will make any difference to either:

(a) the final overall quality of your images; or

(b) the amount of joy you obtain from using the item.

If you’re having a GAS attack, consider a color calibrator or a Loupe Deck as well,

Spark Joy

 

[AcquiredTaste]

I think that if you actually care about doing quality color editing, you would be making a mistake.

 

[Austinian]

I realize that we all look for different things in our monitors. but after getting used to monitors with 250 or so dpi. I just can't be happy with a monitor with half that or less. Most large screen monitors seem to max out at somewhere below 150 dpi. When I look at the same photos on a low dpi monitor the little dots just jump out at me. With 250 or better dpi, there are no visible dots and to me photos look so much better. But suppose it's a personal thing and some just really want big screen monitors. And it takes some research to find the dpi rating on some monitors. With the 4k type ratings, you have to do the math to find the dpi and a large 4k monitor has much lower dpi than a small 4k monitor. But that's why we have lots of choices I suppose.

You're not getting a desktop monitor with 250ppi (printed media have dots, screens have pixels). My 24" 4k Dell has around 180dpi and it doesn't go much up from there.

Do you think you would get a noticeable improvement with a higher PPI than that?

IDK what Bob A L's viewing distance or monitor size is, but when editing an image I can't see individual pixels on a 32" 4K monitor unless I get closer than my normal viewing distance of 21", which is the optimum distance for my computer glasses.

That monitor is slightly less than 140ppi according to an online ppi calculator, and that seems quite satisfactory for me.

 

[Bob A L]

One of my laptops is 260 ppi and the other is 267 ppi. Probably viewing on average from around 20". And as I said I understand that this is only going to happen with smaller size monitors. Both of mine are laptops one 13.5" and the other 15". I have found this works out well for me. I don't miss I large screen at all. Photos at full screen roughly relate to the largest prints that I typically ever have made, so for my uses it works out great. And the high ppi count lets me zoom into portions of a photo if I really want to. But as the old saying goes your mileage may vary.

 

[Glass Jaw]

You should get the VA monitor. I've seen VA next to IPS, and images look much nicer on VA, which doesn't have that nasty contrast-sapping corner IPS glow.

As long as you keep your head centered, color shifts shouldn't be too much.

Later on, you can get a calibration tool. By then, they might have widespread OLED monitors, so you can upgrade again.

 

[Bob A L]

I noticed by the specifications of the monitor you have and are considering that they each have a 16:9 aspect ratio. Is this the only ratio available, or is this the preferred aspect ratio? I only shoot still photos and most always at 3:2 aspect ratio. This always seems a waste to me to have a 16:9 monitor as I always either have black bars on the sides of my photos or need to crop top and/or bottom to fill the screen. Have you ever considered a different aspect ratio, or is 16:9 preferred?

 

[tbcass]

Study and Work: VA monitors are more suitable in this case. You can spend less given a fast response time, and high refresh rates are not important.

Editing footage and pictures: IPS monitors are more favorable given their better color reproduction. Some VA panels offer wide color ranges, though they typically have motion blur

Programming with the monitor mounted vertically: IPS panels are better because of their extensive viewing angles

Competitive gaming: IPS panels are better for gaming for their faster response time and refresh rates which are critical for competitive games.

Slow-Paced gaming: a VA monitor will offer you higher contrast and sharp images. IPS is still okay if you won't mind the slightly lower contrast ratio

VA vs IPS | Which Is The Better Display Technology (vssmonitoring.com)