These flashes work great on my NEX-6, but aren't firing on the a6000. It appears all camera flash settings are the same on both cameras. Is there a difference in the hotshoes? Thanks! I hope I'm just missing something as I like these flashes.
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Yongnuo YN-560 ii (or III) not working on a6000
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hi, sorry i can't help you with this . But i have a question , does YongNue ii or iii works directly on nex6 or i need some sort of adopters? thanks.
I can confirm that both the YN-560 II and YN-560 III do not work directly on the hotsue of a6000.
I don't know why...
The only solution I found was to place a simple adapter on the hotsue, and then connect the adapter with the flash through a PC sync cable (example link)
Even if you put the flash directly on top of the adapter does not work.On Nikon (d5100) and Panasonic (fz-200) it does work. :-(
I am thinking of trying also the method of customizing the RF-603 wireless trigger I had for my Nikon, to work with the sony a6000. There are videos on youtube and some threads here in dpreview on how to do this for the sony Nex cameras. It should be the same.
aerosol
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Same problem here. My only flash YN 560II not working with a6000 and worked on NEX6...
Scott Nicol
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I can confirm the Yongnuo 560 III does work on the a6000.
Two possibilities spring to mind based on my own experience
1) I've found the MultiInterface hotshoe on my nex 6 and a6000 to be very fiddly when dealing with 3rd party flash and triggers. Just last night I was using some yongnuo 603 triggers mk 2 in a studio setting.. they fired for a couple of shots, then just stopped firing. In the end I took the trigger off, reseated it in the hotshoe and had to really tighten the clamp and they then carried on working for the next hour with no problems. This is likely due to that little row of contacts at the front that mean the hotshoe is ever so slightly different to a 'standard hotshoe' in terms of size and how the trigger 'foot' slides into place.
2) You've mistakenly put an old, non digital flash / have a faulty new flash / some how shorted out the pins on the hotshoe of the a6000. I did this on one of my Nex6s (used a new flash that was designed for film cameras and was much higher in voltage than modern flashes) - this fried the flash circuit board in the 6 - manual flashes wouldn't fire at all, Sony ttl flashes would appear to fire but i think it was just the pre-flash - the main flash did not fire or at least did not fire during the actual exposure. If you can borrow a sony flash with the new hotshoe (from a friend / at a store) try taking a picture in a mirror - if you try it with the pop-up flash you will see the flash clearly in the shot. then try it with the sony external flash. If you see the flash goe off but its not in the mirror, its a repair job I'm afraid.
Scott
Two possibilities spring to mind based on my own experience
1) I've found the MultiInterface hotshoe on my nex 6 and a6000 to be very fiddly when dealing with 3rd party flash and triggers. Just last night I was using some yongnuo 603 triggers mk 2 in a studio setting.. they fired for a couple of shots, then just stopped firing. In the end I took the trigger off, reseated it in the hotshoe and had to really tighten the clamp and they then carried on working for the next hour with no problems. This is likely due to that little row of contacts at the front that mean the hotshoe is ever so slightly different to a 'standard hotshoe' in terms of size and how the trigger 'foot' slides into place.
2) You've mistakenly put an old, non digital flash / have a faulty new flash / some how shorted out the pins on the hotshoe of the a6000. I did this on one of my Nex6s (used a new flash that was designed for film cameras and was much higher in voltage than modern flashes) - this fried the flash circuit board in the 6 - manual flashes wouldn't fire at all, Sony ttl flashes would appear to fire but i think it was just the pre-flash - the main flash did not fire or at least did not fire during the actual exposure. If you can borrow a sony flash with the new hotshoe (from a friend / at a store) try taking a picture in a mirror - if you try it with the pop-up flash you will see the flash clearly in the shot. then try it with the sony external flash. If you see the flash goe off but its not in the mirror, its a repair job I'm afraid.
Scott
aerosol
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With the trigger it work but not when mounted directly to the hot shoe...
Thanks. Definitely not fried. I have a Polaroid ring light that was given to me as a gift. The model was for the NEX-7, so it requires the Sony hotshoe adapter. That combo fires fine and it's the only other flash I have so never tried an old flash. I tried the trigger this morning - no response. I'll take it to work with me today and try again to see if I can get any results.
Scott Nicol
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I should be working but when I get these things in my head I have to try them out 
. I've just retried my a6000 mirror test with various flashes.
The Sony 20 AM (old minolta hotshoe) / official adaptor worked fine.
A Sony fit yongnuo 560 MK II using the official sony adaptor worked fine.
A (nominally Nikon but I suspect that was just for ebay marketing purposes and the canon one is identical) Yongnuo 560 MK III fitted directly to the a6000 initially failed to fire - first I changed it to manual mode and turned off the wireless feature on the flash (DOH!), it still didn't fire, i then turned off the camera, took it off, reseated it and tightened the wheel again (not an easy task with the evf being position where it is) and it fired just fine.
. I've just retried my a6000 mirror test with various flashes.The Sony 20 AM (old minolta hotshoe) / official adaptor worked fine.
A Sony fit yongnuo 560 MK II using the official sony adaptor worked fine.
A (nominally Nikon but I suspect that was just for ebay marketing purposes and the canon one is identical) Yongnuo 560 MK III fitted directly to the a6000 initially failed to fire - first I changed it to manual mode and turned off the wireless feature on the flash (DOH!), it still didn't fire, i then turned off the camera, took it off, reseated it and tightened the wheel again (not an easy task with the evf being position where it is) and it fired just fine.
Hmm, did you see the previous entry that confirmed the III worked on the a6000 with "some fiddling"? I'm going to try again. I do use an adapter for my Polaroid ring flash to the NEX-6 and it's a pain - always falling off. I had seen the modification video when I first got my Yongnuo flashes but found they worked just fine in the NEX-6 without modification.
Scott Nicol
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yep, I tested them both just an hour or so ago and they DO work. The official sony adaptor for minolta hot shoes does seem to help as its designed to make contact with the gold pins at the front, thus fits perfectly into the multi-interface shoe. The 560MKIII (which was supposedly a Nikon model but given theres just a single pin I supsect its generic) was bought specifically for the NEX 6 and definitely does work with the a6000, albeit its not a good fit and I wouldn't trust that flash (having to tighten it so much constantly is bound to lead to problems or damage at some point in the future, particularly as its a big flash that placing quite a bit of weight on such a small body). I can confirm that the yongnuo 603 MK 1 transceiver triggers do not work on the a600 (or the nex 6) as they require a current from a camera specific (i.e. nikon or canon) hotshoe contact to detect a shutter press and make them act as transmitters - the 603 MK were released to specificially address this problem (they have a off / TX / RX switch on the side). I know this as i bought the mark 1 triggers and the 560 III together and had to sell the triggers and get the MK IIs. The triggers also suffer from this fiddly locking problem (see my original post) but given the triggers are so much smaller and lighter than the flash I'm less worried about them damaging the a6000 hotshoe by mishandling.
Scott Nicol
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For what its worth, my 560II are minolta fit and are about 18 months old off ebay, the 560III was purchased end of december specifically for use on the 6.
I also urge caution to everyone when using non-sony flash guns as you can blow the circuits on the camera by using the wrong flash. Mine went (under warranty) for what I thought was a manufacturing point - it took a month to get it back from Sony. Having confirmed it was all working fine, within a month, I used the same rogue flash (a small, generic flash that was brand new but designed for simple film cameras) and the same fault instantly appeared - I then tested it and found the voltage during a flash was in double digits when most digital cameras are normally rated at a much lower voltage.
Totally my fault as I knew better than to put an OLD film flash on a modern camera, it just didn't occur to me that a modern, brand new film flash powered by 2 aa batteries would also be problem. I'm now left with a nex 6 than can't fire any flash properly other than the popup and have decided the repair cost is not worth it for what is now a backup body.
I also urge caution to everyone when using non-sony flash guns as you can blow the circuits on the camera by using the wrong flash. Mine went (under warranty) for what I thought was a manufacturing point - it took a month to get it back from Sony. Having confirmed it was all working fine, within a month, I used the same rogue flash (a small, generic flash that was brand new but designed for simple film cameras) and the same fault instantly appeared - I then tested it and found the voltage during a flash was in double digits when most digital cameras are normally rated at a much lower voltage.
Totally my fault as I knew better than to put an OLD film flash on a modern camera, it just didn't occur to me that a modern, brand new film flash powered by 2 aa batteries would also be problem. I'm now left with a nex 6 than can't fire any flash properly other than the popup and have decided the repair cost is not worth it for what is now a backup body.
I don't know about the "official Sony hotshoe adapter for Minolta flashes" or if it would help. Both flashes worked fine on the 6 directly. Does that mean they are "minolta" versions? What hotshoe is that, specifically? Do you have a link? If I can't get it to work I'll give that a try. If it's the Sony Multi-interface shoe - ADP-MAA, I have that one and hate it. It connects fine to the camera but flashes have to be rubber banded to prevent falling out.
Scott Nicol
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It is indeed the ADP-MAA (ie an old minolta hot shoe fit on top, the new multi-interface shoe foot on the bottom). I have no problem with mine in terms of connecting flashes - once slid into place the minolta fit flashes (my Sony HVL F20AM / F43AM / F58AM and the older Yongnuo 560 MKIIs) all lock securely in place and only come off when the release button on the flash is pressed. The fit of the flash adaptor to the hotshoe on the a6000 is fiddly to lock but feels secure with all but the f58AM which is quite a heavy flash with the batteries in. By contrast the Yongnuo 560 MKIII (Nikon fit) which has a standard hot shoe foot has quite a lot of give, even after tightening the locking ring on the flash.
I'm not saying I like the official adaptor - i was furious at sony, having just invested a 1000 pounds in flash guns a month or two before they announced the new hotshoe, had to import the adaptor direct from japan when I first bought the nex 6 because initially the part was on a 4-5 month back order list at most suppliers including Sony and it makes the whole flash gun / nex set up look ungainly and unstable / flimsy... but in fairness to sony i've never had one fall off or felt the need to fasten the flash guns to the adaptor via rubber bands.
Scott
I'm not saying I like the official adaptor - i was furious at sony, having just invested a 1000 pounds in flash guns a month or two before they announced the new hotshoe, had to import the adaptor direct from japan when I first bought the nex 6 because initially the part was on a 4-5 month back order list at most suppliers including Sony and it makes the whole flash gun / nex set up look ungainly and unstable / flimsy... but in fairness to sony i've never had one fall off or felt the need to fasten the flash guns to the adaptor via rubber bands.
Scott
Interesting. Still doubt this is a solution for me since they worked with the NEX- 6 directly so aren't the Nex-7-style shoes. That adapter gets bad reviews on the Sony site, many having the same trouble as I. Must be Sony flashes fit well, at least.
Scott Nicol
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Sorry, reread your post and realised you might not be aware of what I mean by the old 'minolta' hotshoe. As its name suggests, this was invented by minolta some time back , the company Sony bought out when it decided to move into dslrs back in 2006. Its quite a different connection to 'Standard' Hot shoes and has a push button unlocking mechansim but was poorly supported by companies outside of Minolta and later Sony themsleves. Its proper name was the iISO shoe
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IISO_flash_shoe)
The new Sony Multiinterface hotshoe was introduced in 2012, whilst looking superficially similar to standard in design, also has a series of contact pins under the front lip to make it useable for peripherals other than just flashguns e.g. microphones, electronic viewfinders (where the camera doesn't have one built in etc).
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi_Interface_Shoe)
The NEX 6 and a6000 both have the Multi interface hotshoe buit in. To use an oder sony flash you need to use the adaptor.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IISO_flash_shoe)
The new Sony Multiinterface hotshoe was introduced in 2012, whilst looking superficially similar to standard in design, also has a series of contact pins under the front lip to make it useable for peripherals other than just flashguns e.g. microphones, electronic viewfinders (where the camera doesn't have one built in etc).
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi_Interface_Shoe)
The NEX 6 and a6000 both have the Multi interface hotshoe buit in. To use an oder sony flash you need to use the adaptor.
Scott Nicol
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with regards to my previous post, yes, the nex 7 was a minolta style iISO hot shoe.
regards
Scott
regards
Scott
aerosol
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O.K. pworden1,
I just got home and tried to tighten the 560II a bit more than usual on a hot shoe and it started flashing. Problem solved!
About 560III. I'd like to have it but not decided yet about transmitter modification...
I just got home and tried to tighten the 560II a bit more than usual on a hot shoe and it started flashing. Problem solved!
About 560III. I'd like to have it but not decided yet about transmitter modification...
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