What do you expect the 70d specs to be?

[ammac12]

If for no other reason, to simply protect the screen. Last I checked, they aren't made of sapphire crystal and therefore should scratch pretty easily.

 

[Wei Kelun]

crazybadger wrote:

WilbaW wrote:

Wei Kelun wrote:
Maybe I'm asking this because I don't use Live View as much as I should...

You tend to use Live View more if you can see through the lens from beside, above, below, and in front of the camera.

but for those fans of an articulated screen, why do you like it?

I don't have to have my head behind the camera to frame and time a shot, e.g. on my lap where no-one thinks I'm shooting. I can review or share images with the camera resting on a table, rather than having to hold it at the right angle. I can protect the LCD window by folding it in against the body. Once you've flipped you'd never want to go back (unless unreasonable prejudice prevents you from experiencing the benefits ).

I really wasn't that keen on the articulated screen when I got the 60D but now I love it. I'm actually looking at a 6D now and one of the things I'll miss most if I trade in my 60D will be the articulated screen. Like Wilba said, the ability to shoot from odd angles can be really useful. Shooting over obstacles, or getting a ground view of things are a snap. And surprisingly, just having the ability to flip the screen over and protect it while stuffed in my hiking bag, then pull it out, flip the screen around and away I go, is one of the things I like most. My better half loves the thing for taking photos of the two of us. Flip the screen all the way around, hold the camera at arms length, and we can get a picture of the two of us where ever we might be out on a trail.

The funny thing is, I never really used live view shooting before. So it wasn't a case of live view shooter liking the flip screen. It was a case of flip screen user learning to use live view.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I'm intrigued. I've never used a tiltey-swively screen, so I haven't missed it.. Can't miss what you don't know, I guess. I'll try it when I'm next in the market for a camera.. or if I happen to run across one randomly somewhere. My best camera friend is a Nikon guy, perhaps he'll upgrade from his D200 to a tilt-swivel model (does Nikon even have one?) and then I can try his. I admit some of the advantages you guys are naming are interesting.

 

[Chaitanya S]

Wei Kelun wrote:

crazybadger wrote:

WilbaW wrote:

Wei Kelun wrote:
Maybe I'm asking this because I don't use Live View as much as I should...

You tend to use Live View more if you can see through the lens from beside, above, below, and in front of the camera.

but for those fans of an articulated screen, why do you like it?

I don't have to have my head behind the camera to frame and time a shot, e.g. on my lap where no-one thinks I'm shooting. I can review or share images with the camera resting on a table, rather than having to hold it at the right angle. I can protect the LCD window by folding it in against the body. Once you've flipped you'd never want to go back (unless unreasonable prejudice prevents you from experiencing the benefits ).

I really wasn't that keen on the articulated screen when I got the 60D but now I love it. I'm actually looking at a 6D now and one of the things I'll miss most if I trade in my 60D will be the articulated screen. Like Wilba said, the ability to shoot from odd angles can be really useful. Shooting over obstacles, or getting a ground view of things are a snap. And surprisingly, just having the ability to flip the screen over and protect it while stuffed in my hiking bag, then pull it out, flip the screen around and away I go, is one of the things I like most. My better half loves the thing for taking photos of the two of us. Flip the screen all the way around, hold the camera at arms length, and we can get a picture of the two of us where ever we might be out on a trail.

The funny thing is, I never really used live view shooting before. So it wasn't a case of live view shooter liking the flip screen. It was a case of flip screen user learning to use live view.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I'm intrigued. I've never used a tiltey-swively screen, so I haven't missed it.. Can't miss what you don't know, I guess. I'll try it when I'm next in the market for a camera.. or if I happen to run across one randomly somewhere. My best camera friend is a Nikon guy, perhaps he'll upgrade from his D200 to a tilt-swivel model (does Nikon even have one?) and then I can try his. I admit some of the advantages you guys are naming are interesting.

Nikon's D5x00 series of cameras have flip-out screen. But after using D200 I am sure your friend wont be happy with D5x00 series as its a entry level camera and will lack some of the controls and features seen on prosumer grade cameras.

Chaitanya

 

[Pitbullo]

I expect the 70D to be more like the 7D is today, but with a few modern tweaks like wifi and GPS, and better IQ (better high ISO, and no banding). Further, the 7D mark II will be kicked up a notch, and be a true pro APS-C camera.

It seems like Canon is running out of functions to put in their cameras, and their lineup is way too overlapping. The rebel line is almost too good now, and the competition is making it hard for Canon to keep so many different DSLRs in the market at the same time.

 

[Stakeouttoo]

I have the 60d.. don't see the need for a swivel LCD...nor for that matter the Video on a DSLR.. not looking to go FF.. but I'm looking to upgrade pretty soon and stay with APS-C

that being said.. how about Canon consolidating ..saving money in the process.. by combining the new 70d with the 7D MkII for a top of the line APS-C camera with dual media card slots-- one SD ..one CF ..internal GPS for us who like to travel...better ISO.. the Rebel line as some have pointed out is getting better so they can pick up the slack on that end..

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Ray
my Canon 60d sure beats using that ol' Petri 7s

 

[Telhma]

I think GPS and WIFI is a waste of monney

I wish/hope canon could/can make a nice croped sensor with good low and high ISO IQ. in my eyes that's more important then GPS, I have no problem with remembering where i was when i took a picture

 

[jrkliny]

So far everyone seems to be avoiding what I consider to be the big issue; i.e., the sensor. According to the rumors, the 70D is delayed because the available 18 mp sensor cannot compete with the Nikon offerings, especially the D7100. So I am expecting a 24 mp 70D which will not be available in the stores until the end of this year or sometime in 2014.

As to bells and whistles and other features, I am not expecting much. I would expect a tilt screen. I would like to see an improved focusing system and maybe some better weather sealing.

 

[scorrpio]

ammac12 wrote:

I realize this is speculation until Canon makes an official announcement. But, I am contemplating a body upgrade and have read there is a pending 70d release - possibly coming soon. What would you expect to be the upgrades over the 60d?

• AF video
• 19 cross point AF points
• Magnesium alloy body
• 8 fps
• expecting the Digic 5 processor
• increased ISO

As my list goes on, it sounds more and more like a 7d. Or will it essentially be a 4Ti in a larger, slightly weather sealed frame? Just speculating.

Both 7D and 60D are incredibly successful. It has been confirmed that there will be 70D and 7D Mk2. 7D2 being the flagship, the '1D' of the APS-C lineup. That leaves 70D taking a spot someplace between it and the Rebels. Not too high so that it 'eats' 7D2. Also, there are still plenty of 7D to be had, it is still being manufactured, and it's an excellent camera. I highly doubt Canon is going to push 70D too close to the existing 7D either.

We already know where the Rebels are (T5i/700D), the VERY lackluster update from T4i/650D shows no further push into X0D territory. In the T3i and T4i, we saw added wireless flash control, 5.6 fps burst, 9-cross AF - all pushing Rebels into X0D territory. Not so with T5i. This makes me think that 70D is not going to be much of an upward push from 60D either.

Articulated LCD is part of what makes 60D awesome. 7D is all about action, it's fast, it's real rugged. 60D shines in calmer applications, and is most adapted to tripod work. For anything tripod, articulated screen is an absolute Godsend. Landscapes, macro, video, studio, product, food - you name it. I seriously considered 7D for the MFA, but 60D won out due to its screen, and I never regretted the decision.

So what will 70D be? By my reasoning (which definitely could be wrong), I see 70D having following differences from 60D:

1. Sensor. 21MP sensor is likely. There is really nothing wrong with current 18MP, IMHO, but in terms of marketing, 18MP will not roll that well in the face of 24MP competition. I am also 99% certain it will have on-sensor PDAF a la T4i, or hopefully SL1. Faster LiveView, and movie AF coupled with articulated LCD and semi-pro controls is a killer combination.

2. Screen: Articulated, with touch.

3. Controls: 360 degree mode dial, with a dedicated movie switch, and hopefully more than one Custom mode. RF flash control for 600EX. MFA... not holding my breath there.

4. Processing: DIGIC 5+. Hopefully full UHS-I SD read/write support, with a USB 3.0 port. Hopefully uncompressed HDMI out for video (slim hope though). Maybe GPS. Maybe WiFi.

5. Pricing: very similar to how 60D was priced, with 18-135 STM being the most common kit.

These are my 'reasonable expectations' for the model.

 

[MaxCh]

I'd suggest to simply buy some LCD protector for a few bucks. seems to work fine for me.

 

[Mark B.]

Telhma wrote:

I think GPS and WIFI is a waste of monney

You're entitled to your opinion. WiFi is becoming a standard feature. I don't mind it, I would like the option of wirelessly transferring images to a laptop or tablet and even using liveview w/o being tethered with a cable.

I wish/hope canon could/can make a nice croped sensor with good low and high ISO IQ. in my eyes that's more important then GPS, I have no problem with remembering where i was when i took a picture

You don't have to use it. As with WiFi, AF, video, and any other feature that people always proclaim are "useless" you can turn them off or ignore them altogether.

Mark

 

[Mark B.]

scorrpio wrote:

ammac12 wrote:

I realize this is speculation until Canon makes an official announcement. But, I am contemplating a body upgrade and have read there is a pending 70d release - possibly coming soon. What would you expect to be the upgrades over the 60d?

• AF video
• 19 cross point AF points
• Magnesium alloy body
• 8 fps
• expecting the Digic 5 processor
• increased ISO

As my list goes on, it sounds more and more like a 7d. Or will it essentially be a 4Ti in a larger, slightly weather sealed frame? Just speculating.

Both 7D and 60D are incredibly successful. It has been confirmed that there will be 70D and 7D Mk2.

Not really. I'm very hopeful there will be a 7D II, but until Canon announces something all we have are rumors.

Mark