EOS-1D Mark II sharp, no worries here

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BTW. The 1D Mark II at level 0 or 1 sharpening reminds me of the
EOS D30...
Yuck - that camera has the worst JPG Engine of all time, you sharpen the JPGs and you get dots all over the place, it's also soft at the +1 setting .. RAW is definately needed with the D30 and it totally Rocks in Capture ONE (try it) - luckily the RAWs are only 3Mb each!..

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EOS-1D & Sigma SD9 - Sharper than a Saville Row Suit!
 
Looks like your time and effort will help to calm many of these
people that are panicking. Hopefully they can rest now. :-)
Do not even dream :) Next will come colour saturation, focusing,
lens complaints, noise levels, high ISO issues, slow writing speed,
etc, etc...
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I'm convinced that less than stellar AF performance is the source
of most sharpness complaints. One would think that this would be
confined to Canon's entry level DSLRs but sadly this doesn't seem
to be the case.
Not sure where the less than stellar preformance comes from - I find it excellent on my copy. For example, using my 300f4 with a 2x convertor, focusing is much faster and more accurate than my D60 with just the 300 ... oh, and here's a surprise - in my quest to find the limits of this camera, I stacked both my 2x and 1.4x convertors on the the 300 f4 - guess what - AF still works - a bit slower, but still very useable, and capable of tracking a 3/4 angle aircraft landing approach in AI Servo mode.

Cheers,

Colin
 
from some not so experienced in high-end dSLRs folks whom I was processing CR2s for... Starts really boring. Looks like jump from shooting 10D JPEgs to MkII CR2 is not painless for more than some.
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Just feeling the need to cause trouble this morning? Phil's reviews usually take 2 - 3 weeks to complete, but who knows with the pressure on this one. I'd venture to guess second or third week in May.

Teski
PS. Please don't ask me when the review will be posted.
OK. I'll take the bait - When will the review be posted?

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-Jens B.
 
I think I was referring to the 'look' of the images, in that there are almost no sharpening artifacts and textures a clean and smooth yet detailed.
BTW. The 1D Mark II at level 0 or 1 sharpening reminds me of the
EOS D30...
Yuck - that camera has the worst JPG Engine of all time, you
sharpen the JPGs and you get dots all over the place, it's also
soft at the +1 setting .. RAW is definately needed with the D30 and
it totally Rocks in Capture ONE (try it) - luckily the RAWs are
only 3Mb each!..

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EOS-1D & Sigma SD9 - Sharper than a Saville Row Suit!
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I think I was referring to the 'look' of the images, in that there
are almost no sharpening artifacts and textures a clean and smooth
yet detailed.
Whew!. I was hoping that they didn't have the dreaded D30 Lurgy (the 1D Mk1 suffers this dot problem to a degree also when you sharpen Setting 0 images) ..

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I can Vouch for that after trying a Bigma on the 10D and then on the 1D - you NEED the Mk2 to help balance your fave lens - believe me, you'll get even steadier shots with it on that handheld! ..

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2.9 MB. In-camera sharpening level 2, 28-70 mm F2.8 L.
Having just started to evaluate the Mark II I'm surprised to read
questions over this camera's sharpness.. There are a few important
points to remember:

1. The image processing for the 1D series apperas to be different
(to a higher standard) than other EOS digitals, tonal transitions
are smoother, sharpening artifacts virtually non-existant.

2. An eight megapixel sensor is going to pick out any sharpness /
resolution issues with the lens and focusing. A good lens,
accurately focused and with the correct DOF is needed for 1:1 pixel
sharpness.

3. This is the most important point - The default sharpening on
the EOS-1D Mark II is a very conservative level 0 (zero), this is
the same as the EOS-1D and 1Ds. It's a much lower sharpening level
than most other digital SLR's and provides you with noise free and
sharpening artifact free images. HOWEVER if you prefer your images
sharper out of the camera just increase sharpening to around level
2.

I went out on my first shoot with the camera the other day and
before even starting created a parameter set with sharpening level
'2', I'm pretty pleased with the results.

The images below are 100% crops from some 1D Mark II JPEG images.
Lens used was the EF 28-70 mm F2.8 L.







PS. Please don't ask me when the review will be posted.

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The image in the link is excellent.

It would be good to see the results of "skin tones" for an image exposed in daylight -- with comparable settings. If the skin tones are as good in comparison as the details in the photo, then this appears to be an excellent Camera and lens combination.
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I can Vouch for that after trying a Bigma on the 10D and then on
the 1D - you NEED the Mk2 to help balance your fave lens - believe
me, you'll get even steadier shots with it on that handheld! ..
she will notice if I whited out a zero from the price tag? 8-)

Yeah, I really hate the poor AF and poor DR of my 10D. Also, the better than ever ISO noise on the Mark II will also allow me to shoot at ISO800 as default ... I may also be able to stack two 2X TCs on my 300/2.8IS and still can AF ... deal!
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Brian
Dallas, TX
Still love the Spurs (the Mavs suck)
10D owner and love sharp images.
http://www.pbase.com/drip
 
Looks almost 'filmlike', it is 'creamy' smooth, but not blurry.

I would love to see some 8X12 prints.
 
...no food or sleep until the review is done.
 
Yeah, I really hate the poor AF and poor DR of my 10D.
that's why I dumped mine after getting the 1D, the 10D's AF sensors are too big and I ended up exposure locking nearly all outdoor shots due to it exposing for the shadow areas - acceptable in a noisy P&S Digicam which would be noisy if you brought up the levels but not the low noise 10D..

People say that there isn't a lot of difference in the DSLR DR but I immedietly noticed the improvement when moving to the 1D and now we have an old D30 as a "Digicam" I've noticed the lack of DR again so it's not just my perception on this score and the SD9 doesn't have any DR issues otherise I'd have noticed it with that also, its almost as good as the 1D in that respect!..

The 10D has a lot to offer, that's for sure, it's a well made fast camera with sensitive AF but I have to say hand on heart that I actually preferred my D60 - I'm sure that the old Multi-Basis AF sensors were smaller and being lifted from the IX APS SLR they probably were - the D30 very rarely misfocusses even with a WA lens, if it can lock, it locks well! and it exposes for the highlights like the D60 and 1D does ..

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EOS-1D & Sigma SD9 - Sharper than a Saville Row Suit!
 
Not sure where the less than stellar preformance comes from - I
find it excellent on my copy.
I was referring to variance between copies and QC. Just about every Canon DSLR/lens combo is capable of stellar AF and excellent images provided QC during manufacture was up to standard. When you see complaints about MKII images still looking soft, after post-processing (sharpened to the onset of visible artifacts), from competent individuals after comparing them with images from their lesser cameras, using the same lens, then only one thing comes to my mind.
I'm convinced that less than stellar AF performance is the source
of most sharpness complaints. One would think that this would be
confined to Canon's entry level DSLRs but sadly this doesn't seem
to be the case.
Not sure where the less than stellar preformance comes from - I
find it excellent on my copy. For example, using my 300f4 with a 2x
convertor, focusing is much faster and more accurate than my D60
with just the 300 ... oh, and here's a surprise - in my quest to
find the limits of this camera, I stacked both my 2x and 1.4x
convertors on the the 300 f4 - guess what - AF still works - a bit
slower, but still very useable, and capable of tracking a 3/4 angle
aircraft landing approach in AI Servo mode.

Cheers,

Colin
 

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