828 CA Poll

Harry Behret · Dec 22, 2003

Hi All,

I'm tired of all this back & forth on the 828's CA issue. I'm hoping that the 828 users (please only 828 users) can respond to two questions.

1. Do your shots display CA (those lovely purple outlines).

and

2. Is the degree of CA a serious problem in your judgement.

If the poll shows there to be a real problem to the 828 users then maybe we can start to put together a series of pictures displaying the problem and then contact Sony with our efforts to see if the concerns (if they exist) can be addressed.

Harry

http://www.pbase.com/hpb
--

'We don't make a photograph just with a camera; we bring to the act of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen, the music we have heard, the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams

Florindo Gallicchio · Dec 22, 2003

Harry:

In my limited number of shots, I see some CA, but very, very little. It is not a serious problem so far for my camera. I will know more today.

I still say that it's how the camera is used and what is being shot.

Florindo

Harry Behret said:
Hi All,

I'm tired of all this back & forth on the 828's CA issue. I'm
hoping that the 828 users (please only 828 users) can respond to
two questions.

1. Do your shots display CA (those lovely purple outlines).

and

2. Is the degree of CA a serious problem in your judgement.

If the poll shows there to be a real problem to the 828 users then
maybe we can start to put together a series of pictures displaying
the problem and then contact Sony with our efforts to see if the
concerns (if they exist) can be addressed.

Harry

http://www.pbase.com/hpb
--
'We don't make a photograph just with a camera; we bring to the act
of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen,
the music we have heard, the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams

Greg Gebhardt · Dec 22, 2003

Harry Behret said:
Hi All,

I'm tired of all this back & forth on the 828's CA issue. I'm
hoping that the 828 users (please only 828 users) can respond to
two questions.

1. Do your shots display CA (those lovely purple outlines).

and

2. Is the degree of CA a serious problem in your judgement.

If the poll shows there to be a real problem to the 828 users then
maybe we can start to put together a series of pictures displaying
the problem and then contact Sony with our efforts to see if the
concerns (if they exist) can be addressed.

Harry

http://www.pbase.com/hpb
--
'We don't make a photograph just with a camera; we bring to the act
of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen,
the music we have heard, the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams

--

in some situations and then the 717, v1 have the same problem. The 828 CA is being blown way out of reality. I am very happy with my images.

Greg Gebhardt in
Jacksonville, Florida

Tony Schoenoff · Dec 22, 2003

Harry Behret said:
1. Do your shots display CA (those lovely purple outlines).

Very minimal and no more than my 717 or 707 did...

For most shots that do show some CA, it is barely visible even at 100% viewing...

Harry Behret said:
2. Is the degree of CA a serious problem in your judgement.

NO...This issue is blown WAY out of proportion on this forum....

I was extremely worried after all the posts here...But I can definitely say to 7x7 owners that the 828 is a significant improvement overall and the CA issue is a relative non-issue if they are happy with the 7x7 images...

Tony S

Olga Johnson · Dec 22, 2003

Harry Behret said:
1. Do your shots display CA (those lovely purple outlines).

Yes, in certain circumstances.

Harry Behret said:
2. Is the degree of CA a serious problem in your judgement.

For a camera of this caliber, I think it is. It is too apt in producing this result.

Is it a serious problem for me? No, because I can work around it.

Olga

Andres Moreno · Dec 22, 2003

Question 1: Yes, but I will play around to avoid them. Using polarize filter and play around with the image, I hope it will not be a big issue.

Question 2: It is, but there are some other good features in the camera. This is a CON but there are a lot of PRO. I will learn how to play with that, and I will let you know.

Harry Behret said:
Hi All,

I'm tired of all this back & forth on the 828's CA issue. I'm
hoping that the 828 users (please only 828 users) can respond to
two questions.

1. Do your shots display CA (those lovely purple outlines).

and

2. Is the degree of CA a serious problem in your judgement.

If the poll shows there to be a real problem to the 828 users then
maybe we can start to put together a series of pictures displaying
the problem and then contact Sony with our efforts to see if the
concerns (if they exist) can be addressed.

Harry

http://www.pbase.com/hpb
--
'We don't make a photograph just with a camera; we bring to the act
of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen,
the music we have heard, the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams

Harry Behret · Dec 22, 2003

harry

--

'We don't make a photograph just with a camera; we bring to the act of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen, the music we have heard, the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams

andyyau · Dec 22, 2003

Harry Behret wrote:
See that?

I am not cheating you. Most of us do not help...

Andy

PS: be careful for another rule of the forum:

Bumping - Deliberately 'bumping' your message back to the top of the forum with no new content.

Lori Marquette · Dec 22, 2003

1. Yes, I have seen a little. But I agree with others, as I get better at utilizing this camera to it's full potential, I think I can correction some of it.

2. For me, it is not a serious problem. If I want to use the full res and print it, I think post processing will take care of most of it. For Sony's sake, and some of the photographers who are more critical, it would be nice to see it corrected in future production. However, for some camera users, (I can't even call them photographers because they seem to spend more time bashing than shooting...) nothing Sony could do would make them happy.

Thank you for this poll, Harry.
--
Lori Marquette
http://users.psln.com/sharing/Marquette/Photography.html

Harry Behret · Dec 22, 2003

Andy,

Just want to point out to you that you're the one with the 828 not me.

as for bumping, check out
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=7033981

I guess I'm a serial bumper. hahahaha

Harry

Matthew Cromer · Dec 22, 2003

1) Yes, lots of purple CA with some cyan CA. Bad at all apertures at the wide and telephoto ends of the lens.

2) Yes, a serious problem.

I'm going to return my 828 and try to get another one with better CA. I can salvage the images I have now with little problem but I want a camera with less CA.

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my favorite work: http://www.pbase.com/sdaconsulting/featured_art&page=1

Matthew Cromer · Dec 22, 2003

It's far worse on my 828 vs. my 717.

Can you post some samples of your 828 at full WA and full tele with strong backlighting? I want to see what other 828s are doing that work well so I know what to look for when I trade mine in.

Thanks!

--
my favorite work: http://www.pbase.com/sdaconsulting/featured_art&page=1

andyyau · Dec 22, 2003

Matthew Cromer said:
I'm going to return my 828 and try to get another one with better
CA. I can salvage the images I have now with little problem but I
want a camera with less CA.

Can you???????????????????

Is there 828 with less CA????

?????

Andy

Matthew Cromer · Dec 22, 2003

Greg, can you post a link to full-sized samples? I want to know what to expect from a good 828.

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my favorite work: http://www.pbase.com/sdaconsulting/featured_art&page=1

Matthew Cromer · Dec 22, 2003

That is what I would like to determine.

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my favorite work: http://www.pbase.com/sdaconsulting/featured_art&page=1

Olga Johnson · Dec 22, 2003

Matthew Cromer said:
1) Yes, lots of purple CA with some cyan CA. Bad at all apertures
at the wide and telephoto ends of the lens.

2) Yes, a serious problem.

I'm going to return my 828 and try to get another one with better
CA. I can salvage the images I have now with little problem but I
want a camera with less CA.

Would you keep us posted as to whether a different camera handles the problem differently? I suspect it does not but I hope I am wrong.

Olga

Timbo29 · Dec 22, 2003

My 828 has CA. Flash shots (Built in) reflecting off of glass, windows, etc...

My flash photos using the F32x do not seem to show any CA. This is probably due to the fact that I almost always bounce it.

I have not taken enough outdoor photos to really get a grip on how bad this issue really is.

-Tim

Michael Capponi · Dec 22, 2003

whether there is alot of CA or not, I bet you all will still get the camera as I know I will. I remember when the 707 & 717 was released... a million of complaints, especially CA. In the end, everyone got their hands on the 7x7 cams..

I suspect this is the same deal. It's just a matter of time until everyone stops bashing this awesome camera and take it for what it's worth. Besides, you won't find another top notch P&S camera as good as this one. I think this is the best all round all in 1 cam on the market.

Since so many of you out there are so damn anal, i suggest you all step it up and drop 2g's for a 10D and lug around 15+ lbs of lenes. Perhaps then you'll be less incline to complain about CA

The 828 is in a league of it's own, so take it for what it's worth

Michael Capponi · Dec 22, 2003

whether there is alot of CA or not, I bet you all will still get the camera as I know I will. I remember when the 707 & 717 was released... a million of complaints, especially CA. In the end, everyone got their hands on the 7x7 cams..

I suspect this is the same deal. It's just a matter of time until everyone stops bashing this awesome camera and take it for what it's worth. Besides, you won't find another top notch P&S camera as good as this one. I think this is the best all round all in 1 cam on the market.

Since so many of you out there are so damn anal, i suggest you all step it up and drop 2g's for a 10D and lug around 15+ lbs of lenes. Perhaps then you'll be less incline to complain about CA

The 828 is in a league of it's own, so take it for what it's worth

Olga Johnson · Dec 22, 2003

You have no right to call anyone in this thread any names. Those responding to this poll already own the camera. They know what they see and experience. They don't need the rhetoric about the camera; they've already put their money where your mouth is. Now they would like to see the bugs out. Wouldn't you?

Olga

benjapol said:
whether there is alot of CA or not, I bet you all will still get
the camera as I know I will. I remember when the 707 & 717 was
released... a million of complaints, especially CA. In the end,
everyone got their hands on the 7x7 cams..

I suspect this is the same deal. It's just a matter of time until
everyone stops bashing this awesome camera and take it for what
it's worth. Besides, you won't find another top notch P&S camera as
good as this one. I think this is the best all round all in 1 cam
on the market.

Since so many of you out there are so damn anal, i suggest you all
step it up and drop 2g's for a 10D and lug around 15+ lbs of lenes.
Perhaps then you'll be less incline to complain about CA

The 828 is in a league of it's own, so take it for what it's worth

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