GFX 100RF - Why I want one

Have to say the 100RF doesn’t rock my boat as much as this by the hip loose and fluid easy grip…

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Hi,

All that's missing is a hand strap. I've already grafted a Nikon AH-4 (my favorite since the F2 and the matching AH-2) onto my GFX-100. ;)

Stan
 
I am disappointed by the lack of IBIS and the relatively slow lens. I do understand the slow lens keeps the size down but it is still slow. I do like the 28mm equivalent focal length. I do not see it is bringing much to the table when it comes to my shooting. It is not too flexible for lower light situations. For perhaps a $1000 more the Q2 Mono would bring a lot more to the table for me with the faster lens and the IBIS. I do have a 50R and it is not a general use camera for me. I do love it shooting within the constraints. I see the only advsntages 100RF brings to the table is a smaller form factor and the 100 mpx. I have been holding back buying the.Q2 mono. The 100RF is not a logical alternative to the Q2 mono for me. I do not view the 100 RF a good general use solution.
 
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The 100RF is going to be a cool camera but it wouldn’t be my camera of choice for portraits.

As suggested earlier a GFX100S + the 55, 80 or 110 would be better IMO.

For that matter re: portraits I’d rather shoot the A7CR + 50 1.2 GM or one of the fast 85 or 135 FE. lenses than the 100RF.
 
Hi,

There has been a lot of chatter revolving around forms of stabilization and the RF having none of that.

That doesn't bother me as much as a fixed lens. I gave up having only one lens back in 1979.

And not even a choice as to what that one lens might be. Probably due to a distribution nightmare having multiple models with only different fixed lenses.

Stan
 
Hi,

There has been a lot of chatter revolving around forms of stabilization and the RF having none of that.

That doesn't bother me as much as a fixed lens. I gave up having only one lens back in 1979.

And not even a choice as to what that one lens might be. Probably due to a distribution nightmare having multiple models with only different fixed lenses.

Stan
For a couple of years I was able to get by with one lens (X100S) but when I wanted to expand to different types of photography my trip down the rabbit hole began. :)

I'm sure it would be a serious challenge to make multiple fixed lens bodies but Leica and Ricoh seem to be doing pretty well with it.


Regarding stabilization - I loved everything about the GFX 50R except for the lack of stabilization and the shutter that seemed pretty loud/jarring.


Shooting with faster shutter speeds was necessary and early on the lack of fast glass was an issue for me - probably just a me problem with handholding or I was just spoiled by the forgiveness of the X camera system.


It'll be interesting to see if the GFX RF comes with stabilization and hopefully a faster than F4 lens.


if it doesn't have those two things - it's definitely not in the cards for me. The Q2 is really good for the casual walk around job and it has a nice close focus capability along with the 1.7 lens.
 
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Hi,

There has been a lot of chatter revolving around forms of stabilization and the RF having none of that.

That doesn't bother me as much as a fixed lens. I gave up having only one lens back in 1979.

And not even a choice as to what that one lens might be. Probably due to a distribution nightmare having multiple models with only different fixed lenses.

Stan
For a couple of years I was able to get by with one lens (X100S) but when I wanted to expand to different types of photography my trip down the rabbit hole began. :)

I'm sure it would be a serious challenge to make multiple fixed lens bodies but Leica and Ricoh seem to be doing pretty well with it.

Regarding stabilization - I loved everything about the GFX 50R except for the lack of stabilization and the shutter that seemed pretty loud/jarring.
yes using the default mechanical shutter setting is pretty loud,
Shooting with faster shutter speeds was necessary and early on the lack of fast glass was an issue for me - probably just a me problem with handholding or I was just spoiled by the forgiveness of the X camera system.
and the mechanical shutter only does induce some shake and so requires higher shutter speeds. Did you ever try the EFCS setting that most of us use? - much quieter and vibration free, with it I can achieve sharp results at 1/FL when I’m confidently still, or just shift up to 1/(FL*2) for 100% sharp shots.
It'll be interesting to see if the GFX RF comes with stabilization and hopefully a faster than F4 lens.

if it doesn't have those two things - it's definitely not in the cards for me. The Q2 is really good for the casual walk around job and it has a nice close focus capability along with the 1.7 lens.
- agree, the Q2 is a much nicer proposition.
 
Hi,

There has been a lot of chatter revolving around forms of stabilization and the RF having none of that.

That doesn't bother me as much as a fixed lens. I gave up having only one lens back in 1979.

And not even a choice as to what that one lens might be. Probably due to a distribution nightmare having multiple models with only different fixed lenses.

Stan
For a couple of years I was able to get by with one lens (X100S) but when I wanted to expand to different types of photography my trip down the rabbit hole began. :)

I'm sure it would be a serious challenge to make multiple fixed lens bodies but Leica and Ricoh seem to be doing pretty well with it.

Regarding stabilization - I loved everything about the GFX 50R except for the lack of stabilization and the shutter that seemed pretty loud/jarring.
yes using the default mechanical shutter setting is pretty loud,
Shooting with faster shutter speeds was necessary and early on the lack of fast glass was an issue for me - probably just a me problem with handholding or I was just spoiled by the forgiveness of the X camera system.
and the mechanical shutter only does induce some shake and so requires higher shutter speeds. Did you ever try the EFCS setting that most of us use? - much quieter and vibration free, with it I can achieve sharp results at 1/FL when I’m confidently still, or just shift up to 1/(FL*2) for 100% sharp shots.
It'll be interesting to see if the GFX RF comes with stabilization and hopefully a faster than F4 lens.

if it doesn't have those two things - it's definitely not in the cards for me. The Q2 is really good for the casual walk around job and it has a nice close focus capability along with the 1.7 lens.
- agree, the Q2 is a much nicer proposition.
Well, this camera, with a built-in lens may have a different shutter, a central/leaf one (or what is a correct name), built in the lens. Then it may be as quiet as mouse :-) .

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Regards,
Peter
 
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Hi,

There has been a lot of chatter revolving around forms of stabilization and the RF having none of that.

That doesn't bother me as much as a fixed lens. I gave up having only one lens back in 1979.

And not even a choice as to what that one lens might be. Probably due to a distribution nightmare having multiple models with only different fixed lenses.

Stan
For a couple of years I was able to get by with one lens (X100S) but when I wanted to expand to different types of photography my trip down the rabbit hole began. :)

I'm sure it would be a serious challenge to make multiple fixed lens bodies but Leica and Ricoh seem to be doing pretty well with it.

Regarding stabilization - I loved everything about the GFX 50R except for the lack of stabilization and the shutter that seemed pretty loud/jarring.
yes using the default mechanical shutter setting is pretty loud,
Compared to the lovely snick of the X100x series, the sublime shutter button of the X-H1 and the refined sound of the X Pro2 I'm now reminded of how much I disliked the *clunk* of the 50R shutter.
Shooting with faster shutter speeds was necessary and early on the lack of fast glass was an issue for me - probably just a me problem with handholding or I was just spoiled by the forgiveness of the X camera system.
and the mechanical shutter only does induce some shake and so requires higher shutter speeds. Did you ever try the EFCS setting that most of us use? - much quieter and vibration free, with it I can achieve sharp results at 1/FL when I’m confidently still, or just shift up to 1/(FL*2) for 100% sharp shots.
I did switch to EFCS but the GFX100S came along and 100mp + IBIS seduced me. :)
It'll be interesting to see if the GFX RF comes with stabilization and hopefully a faster than F4 lens.

if it doesn't have those two things - it's definitely not in the cards for me. The Q2 is really good for the casual walk around job and it has a nice close focus capability along with the 1.7 lens.
- agree, the Q2 is a much nicer proposition.
The Qs all look good, feel good, work nicely. Home run for Leica. I wonder if they are viewed the same way as the Cayenne is to Porsche.

Purists may balk at the idea of Porsche making an SUV but it saved the company and has allowed the 911 to live on.
Well, this camera, with a built-in lens may have a different shutter, a central/leaf one (or what is a correct name), built in the lens. Then it may be as quiet as mouse :-) .
A leaf shutter would be ideal for this camera. Strobists would be very happy.
 
Compared to the lovely snick of the X100x series, the sublime shutter button of the X-H1 and the refined sound of the X Pro2 I'm now reminded of how much I disliked the *clunk* of the 50R shutter.
Oh… I love the 50R’s shutter. It’s like it congratulates you on making an image. Really slaps you on the back and grins at you. And it even ends with a sound that bears some resemblance to a film advance. An absolute delight.
 
Compared to the lovely snick of the X100x series, the sublime shutter button of the X-H1 and the refined sound of the X Pro2 I'm now reminded of how much I disliked the *clunk* of the 50R shutter.
Oh… I love the 50R’s shutter. It’s like it congratulates you on making an image. Really slaps you on the back and grins at you. And it even ends with a sound that bears some resemblance to a film advance. An absolute delight.
Ha! Different stokes for sure.

I've become accustomed to the silent, vibration free shutter of the A1.

After enjoying the refined little snick of various X cameras the clunk really was a big departure.

I can see your point - the bang of the 50R shutter is an event. :D

On the RF - if the Fujirumors photo of the front of the camera is accurate - it's one homely camera.

Styled like an Instax. Yikes.
 
On the RF - if the Fujirumors photo of the front of the camera is accurate - it's one homely camera.

Styled like an Instax. Yikes.
Oy... Do you have any idea how many radically different styles have been used for Instax cameras? (I have a few of them myself... :-) ) The new Instax Wide Evo introduces yet another one.
 
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On the RF - if the Fujirumors photo of the front of the camera is accurate - it's one homely camera.

Styled like an Instax. Yikes.
Oy... Do you have any idea how many radically different styles have been used for Instax cameras? (I have a few of them myself... :-) ) The new Instax Wide Evo introduces yet another one.
Truthfully I am not at all familiar with the range. :)

I have an instax printer but none of the cameras.
I hope it's better looking than this supposed kind of weirdly disproportionately tall image.

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Fujirumors doesn't always get it right but it seems more often than not they do.
 
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On the RF - if the Fujirumors photo of the front of the camera is accurate - it's one homely camera.

Styled like an Instax. Yikes.
Oy... Do you have any idea how many radically different styles have been used for Instax cameras? (I have a few of them myself... :-) ) The new Instax Wide Evo introduces yet another one.
Truthfully I am not at all familiar with the range. :)

I have an instax printer but none of the cameras.
I hope it's better looking than this supposed kind of weirdly disproportionately tall image.

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Fujirumors doesn't always get it right but it seems more often than not they do.
I actually agree with you. Not a great picture at FujiRumors, but so far as I can tell from it, it looks awkward. But we'll see.

Here's the Instax Wide Evo:

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On the RF - if the Fujirumors photo of the front of the camera is accurate - it's one homely camera.
Does “homely” translate as “fugly”? Because it is one fugly camera. It looks like the Berlin Wall, if the Berlin Wall had been built by Darth Vader.
 
This is what I have wanted for years... A flat, high resolution, Full Frame (or better) camera. I am new to Medium format so I don't know what a 35mm f4 lens looks like in results, but if I can capture gorgeous, indoor portraits with this setup I will have a hard time saying no to this.

Somethings I hope it has:

1. Quick Accurate autofocus.

2. Video with in camera digital zoom. 8k60p would be ideal, but 4k60p gets me what I want. I would like an hour of video time, but 30 minutes would be all I would need.

3. Decent battery life.

4. Full compliment of ports including usb-c, HDMI, mic and head phone jacks on the LEFT side of the body and not under the grip.

5. CF-B cards with an internal storage option.

6. A decent flash either built in or as a small accessory. (If not the Godox im20 will do).

7. Long battery life (All day pictures, and no more than 3 battery changes for all day video)

8. Being able to do post processing in camera, ie RAW > JPEG/HEIF.

9. Price $2500 or less

10. Durable and weather proof. Would like to take it to a beach and use it in the rain without concern.

But ultimately, this is a camera I can carry everyday, and get professional results. It is wide enough to get the scene, and has enough real estate to crop in to tell better stories. Let's get it right Fuji.
Be prepared to be completely disappointed. Where do you guys come up with these fantasies? You are really expecting a GFX with a lens for 50% of the cheapest GFX body and basically the same price as a very nice 24mp FF camera body? While giving you everything?
 
On the RF - if the Fujirumors photo of the front of the camera is accurate - it's one homely camera.
Does “homely” translate as “fugly”? Because it is one fugly camera. It looks like the Berlin Wall, if the Berlin Wall had been built by Darth Vader.
Direct translation. I can’t believe it will look like that photo because fugly nailed it.
 
This is what I have wanted for years... A flat, high resolution, Full Frame (or better) camera. I am new to Medium format so I don't know what a 35mm f4 lens looks like in results, but if I can capture gorgeous, indoor portraits with this setup I will have a hard time saying no to this.

Somethings I hope it has:

1. Quick Accurate autofocus.

2. Video with in camera digital zoom. 8k60p would be ideal, but 4k60p gets me what I want. I would like an hour of video time, but 30 minutes would be all I would need.

3. Decent battery life.

4. Full compliment of ports including usb-c, HDMI, mic and head phone jacks on the LEFT side of the body and not under the grip.

5. CF-B cards with an internal storage option.

6. A decent flash either built in or as a small accessory. (If not the Godox im20 will do).

7. Long battery life (All day pictures, and no more than 3 battery changes for all day video)

8. Being able to do post processing in camera, ie RAW > JPEG/HEIF.

9. Price $2500 or less

10. Durable and weather proof. Would like to take it to a beach and use it in the rain without concern.

But ultimately, this is a camera I can carry everyday, and get professional results. It is wide enough to get the scene, and has enough real estate to crop in to tell better stories. Let's get it right Fuji.
Just wondering why you feel you can’t get “professional results” from your Sony setup.

The A7CR is superb. I took my A7RIV and A7RIII on a trip to Europe, across Switzerland, France and Italy and the images were breathtaking.

A big asset of my Sony System was the small size, especially in cities and while hiking.
While I now have added a GFX System, I don’t know how portable it will be in these situations.

The flexibility of interchangeable lenses as well as video in the Sony system with a small and high quality lens like the 35mm 1.4 GM lens was extremely helpful,

I left all the other lenses in my hotel room because I really didn’t want to be weighed down.

As far as the GFX system, zooms like the 45-100 F4 really require higher shutter speeds to get a sharp image because the IS in body and lens is not additive. I know because i have this setup.

Having the 110mm F2, 80mm 1.7 or the 55mm 1.7 would certainly help. I have 2 of the 3, and they are heavy.

So, for a fixed F4 lens without IS in the compact GFX as rumored would require higher shutter speeds and ISOs for indoor photography, negating the advantage of a bigger sensor.
 
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