5D mark 4 durability

Be aware that Canon's "weather sealing" is a marketing term and, to my knowledge, has never been quantified. It certainly does NOT mean waterproof. It is also potentially different for different items, like lenses - some lenses are more "weather proof" than others, some require a front filter to be fitted for it to be weather proof etc etc. It is not just the camera that has to be "weatherproof".
The manufacturer's recommendations for water resistant watches are interesting. Apparently you need a 30m rating to take a watch out into the rain and a 100m rating to take it swimming.
There's a simple explanation: surface tension. Breaking through the surface of water either from in the water to out or from outside the water to inside is much more significant than simply being underwater.
 
Be aware that Canon's "weather sealing" is a marketing term and, to my knowledge, has never been quantified. It certainly does NOT mean waterproof. It is also potentially different for different items, like lenses - some lenses are more "weather proof" than others, some require a front filter to be fitted for it to be weather proof etc etc. It is not just the camera that has to be "weatherproof".
The manufacturer's recommendations for water resistant watches are interesting. Apparently you need a 30m rating to take a watch out into the rain and a 100m rating to take it swimming.
There's a simple explanation: surface tension. Breaking through the surface of water either from in the water to out or from outside the water to inside is much more significant than simply being underwater.
No, surface tension and capillary action which is driven by surface tension generally adds millimetres to the hydrostatic head of a liquid,
Exactly. So a splash of rain onto a crack or pore will easily infiltrate into said crack because of the capillary action, thus being very significant.
 
The flimsy rubber joystick tore off pretty quickly, but so did the one on my 1DX Mark III.
How did that happen?!
In both cases a small tear became a tear around the entire rubber nub. Eventually they fell off.

I no longer use the joystick on any of my cameras.
That is interesting as I've never had an issue with that joystick and I use it constantly to move focus points on both my 5d III an IV and to pan around the photo on my 5d MKIII.
 
Don't listen to the gearheads here who say you can put a weather resistant camera under a shower and not worry about damaging it. If you look at the sidelines during a rainy NFL or MLS game you'll see that every single camera is under rain jacket. No professional trusts a camera manufacturer's "weather resistance". If water does damage your camera, they're not going to fix it for free.
I totally agree. I live in a VERY rainy place and I keep a rain cover in my camera bag and I use it.
 
That is interesting as I've never had an issue with that joystick and I use it constantly to move focus points on both my 5d III an IV and to pan around the photo on my 5d MKIII.
I shoot over fifty events with my 1DX Mark III every year so the joystick got a lot of use before it fell off.
 
That is interesting as I've never had an issue with that joystick and I use it constantly to move focus points on both my 5d III an IV and to pan around the photo on my 5d MKIII.
I shoot over fifty events with my 1DX Mark III every year so the joystick got a lot of use before it fell off.
Yeah. I'm not a fan of joysticks, especially on mirrorless cameras, as they're an obvious point of failure and aren't as useful with thousands of focus points anyway, but that doesn't mean they'll fail particularly early,
 
Yeah. I'm not a fan of joysticks, especially on mirrorless cameras, as they're an obvious point of failure and aren't as useful with thousands of focus points anyway, but that doesn't mean they'll fail particularly early,
Yes, it took three years of continuous use for the one on my 1DX Mark III to fall off. That's probably how long most people own a camera before they throw it out and buy another one.
 
Don't listen to the gearheads here who say you can put a weather resistant camera under a shower and not worry about damaging it. If you look at the sidelines during a rainy NFL or MLS game you'll see that every single camera is under rain jacket. No professional trusts a camera manufacturer's "weather resistance". If water does damage your camera, they're not going to fix it for free.
This is the exact reason I don't worry about "weather sealed" lenses, the great majority of us go to lengths to protect our gear in inclement weather. Under a light rain just about all lenses are okay, but even in this scenario most would protect their gear. Weather sealed is greatly overrated in the equipment reviewers vlogs.

I'm sure someone is going to comment on the above saying they take their gear into the environmental gates of hell and so weather protection helps, but most of us get worried if more than ten drops of rain hit our equipment.
 
You can rain covers or sleeves to protect your gear. A shower cap is a cheap alternative. The weakness on Canon is the buttons on top of the camera, if water gets in there you could have problems. If seawater could be a dead camera, happened to me once.

l note Sony don't have top buttons. Nikons were said to be better sealed, not sure about now. I know a few Canon users had problems in extreme conditions such as Antarctic trips and the Nikons were fine.

My 5D SR top screen could steam up if using in light rain.

Looks like you got a bargain .

Bad weather is good for photos, better than all this endless blue skies.
 
l note Sony don't have top buttons.
This sounded a bit odd, so I had a look at some product images. From what I can see a Sony 7R V has 5 top plate buttons and a Canon R5 ii has 5 as well.


Unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by "top buttons".
 
l note Sony don't have top buttons.
This sounded a bit odd, so I had a look at some product images. From what I can see a Sony 7R V has 5 top plate buttons and a Canon R5 ii has 5 as well.

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Camera-Product-Images.aspx?Camera=1697&CameraComp=1638

Unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by "top buttons".
There was also an expensive craze a few years ago for videos of various Sony a7 camera models being sprayed with water. A lot of them didn't work afterwards and most models then didn't take kindly to being put down on a wet table either.
 
l note Sony don't have top buttons.
This sounded a bit odd, so I had a look at some product images. From what I can see a Sony 7R V has 5 top plate buttons and a Canon R5 ii has 5 as well.

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Camera-Product-Images.aspx?Camera=1697&CameraComp=1638

Unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by "top buttons".
The A7Rlll only has the shutter button. The Canon 5D SR has about 5, plus shutter and a wheel. Most Canon before that had function buttons on top, if water gets in there the camera can be ruined, happened to one of mine.
 
l note Sony don't have top buttons.
This sounded a bit odd, so I had a look at some product images. From what I can see a Sony 7R V has 5 top plate buttons and a Canon R5 ii has 5 as well.

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Camera-Product-Images.aspx?Camera=1697&CameraComp=1638

Unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by "top buttons".
The A7Rlll only has the shutter button.
The photo (of R III) seems to show a shutter button, C1 & C2 buttons and a button in the middle of the mode dial (which may only be a locking button and not connected to any electronics - I don't know), but at least 3, maybe 4.
The Canon 5D SR has about 5, plus shutter and a wheel.
The 5D iv has 6 buttons (incl shutter) plus a locking button in the middle of the mode dial.
Most Canon before that had function buttons on top, if water gets in there the camera can be ruined, happened to one of mine.
 
l note Sony don't have top buttons.
This sounded a bit odd, so I had a look at some product images. From what I can see a Sony 7R V has 5 top plate buttons and a Canon R5 ii has 5 as well.

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Camera-Product-Images.aspx?Camera=1697&CameraComp=1638

Unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by "top buttons".
The A7Rlll only has the shutter button.
The photo (of R III) seems to show a shutter button, C1 & C2 buttons and a button in the middle of the mode dial (which may only be a locking button and not connected to any electronics - I don't know), but at least 3, maybe 4.
The Canon 5D SR has about 5, plus shutter and a wheel.
The 5D iv has 6 buttons (incl shutter) plus a locking button in the middle of the mode dial.
Most Canon before that had function buttons on top, if water gets in there the camera can be ruined, happened to one of mine.
I forgot about the Custom buttons. The one on the dial is a locking button, so doubt any water will get in there. Canon also have a screen on top which is useful but that does get steamed up at times, so another vulnerable place.

Here is the Sony A7Rlll, not waterproof but reasonably sealed: https://petapixel.com/2017/12/07/sony-a7r-iii-weather-sealing-closer-examination/
 
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The 5D mk 4 has been used and abused by many wedding, photojournalists, and war correspondents. Pro's don't baby cameras like us mere amateurs do. The camera was built for pros not amateurs, translation: sometimes abusive and demanding handling and environments. So below is a copy and paste as a result of a quick search I did.

"Yes, the Canon EOS 5D Mark IV was a popular choice for war correspondents and photojournalists due to its features and build quality. Its robust build, weather sealing, and fast burst speed made it well-suited for capturing fast-paced, often harsh, environments. Its high resolution and good dynamic range also provided ample flexibility for post-processing in varying lighting conditions.
Canon EOS 5D Mark IV | Camera Review - shanelongphotography.com
While not as revolutionary as previous 5D models, the Mark IV was a capable all-rounder that professionals and enthusiasts found reliable for a variety of uses, including photojournalism. The Mark IV was a good choice for capturing both still images and video, making it a versatile tool for journalists needing both capabilities.
The EOS R6 Mark II is now considered by some to be a better choice for photojournalism and documentary work. However, the 5D Mark IV was widely used by those in the field and continues to be a strong option for those requiring durability and speed."
 
The 5D mk 4 has been used and abused by many wedding, photojournalists, and war correspondents. Pro's don't baby cameras like us mere amateurs do.
Like I said, every camera I see at NFL and MSL games is under a rain coat when it's raining. Pros don't put their investments at risk when they don't have to.
 
Don't listen to the gearheads here who say you can put a weather resistant camera under a shower and not worry about damaging it. If you look at the sidelines during a rainy NFL or MLS game you'll see that every single camera is under rain jacket. No professional trusts a camera manufacturer's "weather resistance". If water does damage your camera, they're not going to fix it for free.
I totally agree. I live in a VERY rainy place and I keep a rain cover in my camera bag and I use it.
I live in the UK, so hardly ever rains here. I have some rain sleeves but have never used them, the problem is they are too large unless you have a really big lens.
 

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