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R3 line will continue according to Canon USA rep
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VisuallyOriented
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The R3 line will continue... until Canon has sold all their current inventory.
Otherwise it makes no sense to continue to make the R3 when you are trying to sell R1s
Otherwise it makes no sense to continue to make the R3 when you are trying to sell R1s
It only took about 30 years for the successor to EOS 3 to show up. So Canon has strong reasons to say it will continue. But I won't hold my breath for a R3 mk II anytime soon
A better question would be whether there would be a R3 line model on the store shelves at all times going forward
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So those who refer to the R1 as the R3 Mark II are not entirely wrong.
But perhaps the R3 is more an R1 prototype and has served its purpose, well I would say.
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But perhaps the R3 is more an R1 prototype and has served its purpose, well I would say.
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If they want to move supply.
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It makes about as much sense as Canon bringing out the RF 100-400mm zoom when they were and are trying to sell the RF 100-500mm zoom. Or the R8 when they have the R6 II - at least the R3 and R1 have different sensors and the R1 sensor is a new and unique type. They're in different market segments and why would Canon suddenly try to combine different market segments?
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If it suits company strategy..why not.
But yes, R1 is more like R3MKII, the examples you mentioned are way more different. RF 100-500 and RF100-400 are totally in different price and also user segment.
R8 and R6 II have same same sensor but very different EVF and also R8 lacks IBIS. R8 is in % much lighter then (also 200 grams lighter, R3 is only 100g lighter then R1)
Why would Canon care weather people were buying R1, or R3 series cameras if they were selling for near the same price?
Canon has always been diligent in protecting their 1-series market lead with Pro-Sports shooters, so they are cautious as to applying any untested major changes, hence the 24MP resolution for the R1.
My guess is that a R3 mark-ll will be a much higher resolution top tier body.
Like the EOS-1 & EOS-3 series, it gives Canon the opportunity to test out new innovations with actual user's, in their top-of-the-line series.
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Canon's price difference between the R1 and the R3 would buy me an R8 complete with a 24-50mm lens at Canon's prices - I'd say that's a totally different price; if I were buying grey I could have an R3 body plus an R6 plus 24-105 L plus a mount adapter for less than the price of an R1 body. That R1 sensor with its alternate rows of green DPAF sensels vertically aligned is in a different league to that of the R3 (and it will probably be a long time before it comes down to enthusiast level cameras if only because of improving productivity and reducing reject rates) and the R1 viewfinder screen is the next size up from the R3's. I think the two cameras are in different markets even if the two markets share the same pixel count needs.
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In US you can get one now for 3999 USD which is 3110 pounds.
R1 will need to drop price sincr R3 is more than capable for sports and I do not see 2,200 USD in value over the R3.
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The R1 is already less expensive than we anticipated. Keeping the price differential between it and the R3 leaves room to continue selling the R3 for at least a couple more years while Canon refine the manufacture of the R1's complicated sensor.
Those who actually find the extra capabilities of the R1 are essential should be willing to pay that premium, but most people don't. It's always the final little bit of a job that costs a lot. The 80/20 rule of work says you can do 80% of any job with 20% of the work; it's the last 20% that takes 80% of the work.
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Is that with or without VAT/taxes?
cfieldgate
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You can’t buy an R3 in the UK from a UK retailer for anything like £3,110 even ex-VAT (@ 20%). Best grey market price is ~£3,470 though. Might just pick up a 2nd to replace my 8 year old 1DX II
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I think you're right. Canon's always been conservative on top-line pro cameras--remember the two generations of F-1 in the manual focus days? The cameras just short of that top pro tier have always been where new and potentially riskier technologies have been rolled out--the A-1, T-90, EOS A2E (EOS-5), EOS-3, and the R3.
I don't know what exactly a Mark II would look like, but my guess is it will have some kind of new technology that Canon has introduced but wants to get into the field before introducing it in the main line.
As to when it will show...I don't think it will be on a cycle like the other cameras will be.
I don't know what exactly a Mark II would look like, but my guess is it will have some kind of new technology that Canon has introduced but wants to get into the field before introducing it in the main line.
As to when it will show...I don't think it will be on a cycle like the other cameras will be.
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